*****GUARANTEED FRESH***** Trump drops to 38% approval at Gallup

[DemocratSinceBirth]

https://news.gallup.com/poll/313454/trump-job-approval-rating-steady-lower-level.aspx

[Johnny2X2X]

1. -11 in two months

Went from 49% and being an outlier in his favor to 38%.

He's plunging and he's betting that going even more racist will help him. I could see him in the low 30s soon.

[lagomorph777]

10. Going even more racist is a major part of why he's plunging.

That, and being a clear and present danger to every human being including his base.

[Dios Mio]

53. Shhhhh. Don't tell him. Let him faaaaall.

[COLGATE4]

2. Still 38% too high

[Mike 03]

3. Next stop: 33%

(Hopefully)

[CurtEastPoint]

6. It should be half that. Or less.

[denem]

11. 1932: Hoover got 39.7% of the vote.

America is tribal.

[unblock]

4. 33% approval among independents. ouch.

[edhopper]

24. This is the big number, he cannot win with only the GOP vote

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33% among independents is devastating.

[Grasswire2]

65. yes, Republicans are only 25 percent of voters now. nt

[onetexan]

82. K&R!!

[UpInArms]

5. Good to see the dems are united on this

The current 89-point difference between Republicans' and Democrats' ratings of Trump is the largest partisan gap Gallup has ever measured for a presidential approval rating in a single survey. Trump had previously registered 87-point gaps in late January and early February polls, conducted around the time of his Senate impeachment trial and ultimate acquittal.

[samnsara]

7. it seems its been there forever..

[lagomorph777]

8. Wooh! Good news! Turd's in trouble.

Even Turd's key demographics are sick of him: white, southern, male, undeucated. Of course, if you are every one of those things at the same time, you still have a better than even chance of liking Turd, but that's a pretty small voting block.

[drray23]

9. 91 amongst republicans.

Which clearly shows that the trumpers are not the only problem
All the Republicans are to blame. The fact 91 % still support him means they are to be despised and ostracized.

[greymattermom]

12. Every time one of them does something deplorable in public

it should be recorded and posted on social media. Let the internet take care of them. Good bye jobs.

[Wbrady10]

14. When I see that his approval is...

still so high with Republicans, I seriously wonder two questions: 1. Have the majority of Republicans, who no longer Support him, left the party. And, with each subsequent poll, is the Republican Party getting smaller and smaller. I just cannot fathom that 91 percent of them still support him.

[PSPS]

21. You're right. The "base" has been steadily shrinking, thus the high number.

The republican party has become a relatively small rump party consisting of southern racists plus the oligarchs. But the media will try to write their stories in the run-up to the election to get the reader/listener/watcher to infer that the country is "split 50/50" so they can sell ads for their horse race, like they always do. There are far more democrats than republicans in the country and that gap has been widening for a long time. The problem is that fewer democrats vote than republicans so, as usual, it all hinges on getting out the vote.

[llmart]

62. +1

Also, I would guess that in today's climate many people do not want to identify as Republicans so they'll tell pollsters they're "independent".

[machoneman]

80. Well said and so true!

[Cosmocat]

22. Decades of hate framing the evil liberal

1/3 of this country's brains are completely rotted in this one regard.

It isn't just this POS - look around the country at all the bat shit crazy senators and representatives, federal and state who keep getting elected, not to mention the ridiculously pathetic types like Rubio, Cruz, et all.

Their very being is that we are subhuman scum, and anyone with a D is worse than anyone who is an R regardless of what they say and do generally, or how much they fuck them over day after day.

[Scarsdale]

34. Also worth a mention is

Screwy Louie Gohmert, the guy who kept banging the gavel like a mental patient. Also Gym Jordan and the drunk mask guy Goetz. These are idiots, but Moscow Mitch is EVIL personified.

[Cosmocat]

66. We don't have enough time in the day

Goetz definitely sticks out like a sore thumb, but Devin Nunes, Steve King, Marsha Blackburn ...

[Dream Girl]

55. Yes. I'm pretty sure this is what's happening. He has a big slice of an ever shrinking pie

[Demsrule86]

25. Keep in mind, there is the smallest number of Republicans in history.

[TheRickles]

28. Any stats on what % of likely voters self-ID as Rep, Dem, Ind? Thanks. n/t

[Demsrule86]

40. You can look it up on google.

I am sure the information is there. You are welcome.

[TheRickles]

60. I was interested in the stats for this particular poll.

Different polls use different %'s of Rep/Dem/Ind, as a way to skew the results (shocking, I know).

[Demsrule86]

67. It wasn't a poll...just an article I read...which I found on google.

The University of Virginia Center for Politics detailed party registration last week and found that there were nearly 12 million more registered Democrats than Republicans across 31 states and the District of Columbia.

The analysis also found that 40 percent of all voters in party registration states are Democrats, while only 29 percent are Republicans.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/397695-pollster-gop-base-is-shrinking

[Demsrule86]

71. I posted it in this thread.

[FailureToCommunicate]

31. Maybe, but outsized power due to gerrymandering.

[groundloop]

33. BINGO !!!!!!!!!!!

Gerrymandering plus the fact that the electoral college gives an automatic 1 to 3% tilt to the right wing. Not once but twice in recent history have we had a president (*) who lost the popular vote.

[Demsrule86]

39. There is no tilt to the right...cheating is a concern but I think this election will

a realignment election and those are hard to steal...landslide maybe coming.

[Demsrule86]

36. Presidential elections are national statewide elections...and can't be gerrymandered.

Also we took back a gerrymandered house by over performing and turned the state of Virginia blue blue blue.

[FailureToCommunicate]

42. Gerrymandered districts affect state legislators and governors...who decide how

difficult or impossible to make it for votors (Democrats, Independents) to vote in ANY election, national or otherwise.

[Demsrule86]

69. True but we can over perform...and the gerrymander has failed in a number of states.

And we have the house. If we can win the house, we can win legislatures.

[FailureToCommunicate]

76. Well, I admire your optimism. Don't share it, but admire it none the less.

[Demsrule86]

78. What if organizers had given up in 18. The House would be in GOP hands still...have

courage, we can do this. I worked my ass off...as did many other. Or take Virginia...we turned the entire state blue...And the Texas legislature is within our sites...keep the faith...we will do this.

[lastlib]

50. Gerrymandered Congressional districts could tilt the House....

of Representatives against us in the event of an election without an Electoral College majority. But nothing we can do about that now, except take the House massively, maybe pick up 50 new seats in red states.

[Demsrule86]

68. We won the House and took back Virginia...the gerrymanders fail in

times of stress. We have the house.

[Zambero]

46. The GOP cookbook

Slow boil and reduce. Continue to concentrate fear, ignorance, and hate into a louder yet smaller batch.

[Dream Girl]

54. But I wonder if the proportion of self identified "republicans" has declined leaving all but rapid

Trump supporters with otherwise republicans now identifying as independents.

[Yavin4]

58. The national Republican party is following the same path as the CA Republican party

A small, outlier fringe party that has little to no power in a state like CA. You cannot run be a White identity party in a diverse nation.

[BComplex]

13. " it does show some improvement among Republicans, from 85% to 91%. "

It just tells me that millions of those who used to call themselves republicans have become independents or democrats. It's not more republicans approve of him, it's that the only people still calling themselves republicans approve at 91%.

[Wbrady10]

17. I've thought the same thing.

I think those that do not support him anymore have left the Republican Party. Those that remain still support him. But the number of those calling themselves Republicans is getting smaller all the time.

[BComplex]

26. I know, right? That's why his approval goes up among "republicans". If there are only 100 people

left who will actually admit to being a republican, 91 of them will give him a high job approval.

[Clash City Rocker]

15. This is interesting

“Trump now has approval ratings below the majority level among groups that are typically more favorable to him, including non-Hispanic white Americans, men, older Americans, Southerners and those without a college degree.”

[marybourg]

16. He's been "dropping " to 38% for 3 years.

[mucifer]

18. Yup, from 41% to 38% isn't that impressive. In fact it's pretty much within the margin of error

[BComplex]

27. So maybe it's actually 35%?

That's probably more like it.

[Doodley]

19. Great news! Hopefully Biden's lead will grow.

[SoonerPride]

20. When the GOP abandons him completely : Labor Day.

The bottom is dropping out and they will abandon ship in 8 weeks

[Scarsdale]

38. Too bloody little,

too bloody late. They had their chance to dump the loser, yet all backed him up in the face of true disgrace for any other president. He is, was and always will be a LOSER. The only person he has helped, apart from himself of course, is Putin.

[Me.]

23. Finally

Below 40, hope it hold

[alterfurz]

29. just a few days before Nixon's resignation...

...he was still polling 28% approval.

[SunSeeker]

52. Yup. My mother-in-law was in that 28%.

She said she ctied when he resigned. The right wing will always have a pocket of support in this country, as long as racism exists.

[Stuart G]

30. When many republicans go to vote in November..it will be different (my opinion)

..Trump will get no better than 30% maybe 25%..His behavior far exceeds Nixon who left with 27 %..That voting moment will destroy "Trump" forever..A lot of people who say in a poll they will support Trump, will decide at the very last moment, that, "Biden is a moderate & honest, been through a lot, I will vote for him"
...Trump has by his total stupidity, ignorance and arrogance killed people. Come election day Trump will get no more than 30%.. Biden as a moderate, honest person, is such a contrast to Trump, that Trump hasn't got a clue.
...Come election day, if Trump is still the President, we will see it all. I can't wait..

[bdamomma]

35. We will top the previous numbers of

protesters in the streets if he does steal it again. We will not rest until he is thrown out or arrested.

[Scarsdale]

41. Preferably BOTH.

In no particular order.

[Squidly]

84. This country WILL erupt

Into a civil war if he steals this election....mark my words.

[Roy Rolling]

32. ETTD

Everything Trump touches dies.

Even his own approval ratings are killed by his behavior.

[left-of-center2012]

37. This, from linked article ...

The drop in Trump's job approval rating puts him in the company of George H.W. Bush and Jimmy Carter -- the last two one-term presidents, who also had sub-40% approval ratings in June of their reelection years.

[ashredux]

43. Getting near the GOP Jump Ship numbers

[Zambero]

48. A lose-lose situation for Trump's fair weather enablers

Just as there are Never Trumpers, there are also Only Trumpers who would never countenance having their hero thrown to the wolves by the GOP establishment. Would they toss their MAGA hats and turn out in droves to vote for a last-minute replacement? I'm speculating that quite a large number would stay home instead.

[uponit7771]

59. That would be 75%-ish but those numbers may never come because of the lower number of people who con

... call themself Republicans now.

Of course Trump is getting high numbers amongst a smaller pool of people

[JTOL]

44. Trump cares for only 2% of Americans

The first 1% is the wealthy that got the trillion $ tax reduction.
The second is that he is OK with the 1% of Americans that will have complications from Covid-19 and die. (from the 7/4 Rose Garden speech.)
So, as individuals we have to look at this and say "which group do I belong to?".

[Silent3]

56. Trump doesn't really care about rich Americans either, he just values their approval more

He desperately wants to feel accepted among the rich and famous, even more than he loves soaking up the approval of fawning MAGAts.

[gab13by13]

45. Gallup leans to the right,

so this number is bad news for Trump.

[bullwinkle428]

47. He WILL get 40-45% of the vote in the general election. We STILL have to

turn out in November if we want to ensure that his downfall is complete, and the utter humiliation we're all desperately hoping for.

[Tiger8]

49. What % of Republicans are racist?

If Trump is openly racist, and 91% of Republicans approve of Trump, what does this say about them?

Perhaps there’s a sliding scale among Republicans, from “I don’t care, do you?” regular conservatives, to the activist KKK types who cheer the loudest at Trump’s open racism, and incitement to violence.

[spanone]

51. K&R...

[FakeNoose]

57. 91% of registered Republicans approve of him?

Highly suspect - who's on their call list? I don't trust that number unless maybe Gallup is only calling senior citizens with a landline. If that's the case it means they don't have a good polling universe anyway.

[mcar]

61. He's losing his senior citizen supporters bigly

[TryLogic]

63. His strongest demographic has always been white, no college degree.

The reason for the white component is obvious.

What about the no college degree component? First of all, one does not need to have a degree to be well informed and intelligent. But, Trump is aggressively and assertively ignorant. He is anti education and anti science. He speaks what, fifth grade level? Lower? He avoids reading. He appeals to those who did not like school, those who probably struggled or failed or were somewhat humiliated in school, those who as adults complain about paying taxes to support schools, those who vote against funding for schools, those who hated Obama probably because he sounded intelligent (and was intelligent) in addition to the racist thing.

Most other countries shunt students into programs where they are likely to thrive, to enjoy learning. But in this country we try to make everyone get a good "general education" which pretty much means some degree of calculus and Shakespeare. Society needs a wide variety of skilled craftsmen and women who are good at what they do and who enjoy what they do, who take pride in what they do. Even modest skills such as delivery or cab driver can be courteous and proud of it.

Our approach to education for all is also very expensive, not very efficient. But in a society owned by big for-profit industries and where the pursuit of happiness means accumulation of wealth at any cost (FOX News, big pharma, oil, come to mind) is it possible to change our approach to education and training?

[Brainfodder]

64. Being at 38% still is embarrassing, he should be at 38 people by now.

Stupidity in the U.S.A. is worse than C-19, who knew?

[mvd]

70. That's what I always think

But the lower the better. Biden’s best strategy right now is to let the Con hurt himself.

[Demsrule86]

72. Are you aware that Hoover won 39% of the vote in 1932?

[Brainfodder]

73. I was born when LBJ had his stint, I'll look into it.

[Demsrule86]

74. Yeah well I read up on the Depression and the politics ...

My Great-Grandpa said people fleeing the cities actually died on his property and he buried them...people literally starved. And yet 30% voted for Hoover.

[Brainfodder]

75. Stupidity has roots here is what we are saying?

[Demsrule86]

79. There have always been stupid people...personally, I think that we are winning in

red areas and purple areas...is amazing. We may turn states blue this election...states that have been red for decades...realignment maybe.

[Awsi Dooger]

77. Remarkable and wonderful collapse from his 44% on 538 early this year

I was truly worried at that point, basically pessimistic. I had long expected and predicted that Trump's atrocities would be steadily absorbed as the new norm, to the point he reached 45% on 538 at election day...just enough to pull out another electoral squeaker.

I really think it would have played out that way if not for coronavirus and George Floyd situation. Tragic pandemic and death but they allowed Donald Trump to be fully exposed as the ignorant, incompetent, despicable racist lying lowlife...everything that has always been his essence.

Now just keep the approval where it is. I'm not foolish enough to believe there is a lower shelf.

Our only concern is Biden coming across as old and not mentally sharp in the campaign and specifically the debates. I'm not going to totally ignore that variable. Everything tends to go back to the beginning. There were worries about that for a reason last fall and into early this year. Just because he set it aside in the one on one versus Sanders doesn't mean the concern was not valid, or eligible to resurface.

I'll be nervous as hell during that first debate, no matter what the polls look like beforehand. Many swing voters preferring Biden now still remember him as Obama's vice president, and not at current age. I would be less troubled at early to mid 70s than late 70s. Things go wrong.

[oasis]

81. Still too damn high.

[sandensea]

83. Shades of 1992...