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grantcart

(53,061 posts)
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 03:42 PM Jun 2020

Re: Taliban Bountygate, we have moved from the crime to the coverup

NYT is reporting that intelligence sources were tipped off by transfers to known Afghan crime figures who were known to do business with the Taliban.

They raided the homes and not only caught the perpetrators but recovered the money. The perpetrators were arrested and immediately copped to what was done. Some of those who were being pursued fled to Russia.

Now the administration is trying to say that the lead was not followed up because 1) there was no actionable intelligence and 2) that the quality of the information was not promising

These, clearly, are outright lies and prove an attempt to cover up because:

1) The intelligence was acted on and obtained 100% proof that the original question raised by the transfers was valid.

2) The information led to arrests and recovery of the money, and it was only then that the reason for the transfers was known. So the intelligence wasn't a guess on what was happening it was an explanation for facts already in evidence.

It would be as if after the Watergate burglars were caught that the Nixon administration said that we shouldn't hear what they have to say because there is no actionable options for burglars in handcuffs and the quality of the intelligence from the police department isn't good.





https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/30/us/politics/russian-bounties-afghanistan-intelligence.html

In a raid in Kunduz City in the north about six months ago, 13 people were arrested in a joint operation by American forces and the Afghan intelligence agency, the National Directorate of Security, according to Safiullah Amiry, the deputy provincial council chief there. Two of the main targets of the raid had already fled — one to Tajikistan and one to Russia, Mr. Amiry said — but it was in the Kabul home of one of them where security forces found a half-million dollars. He said the Afghan intelligence agency had told him the raids were related to Russian money being dispersed to militants.


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Re: Taliban Bountygate, we have moved from the crime to the coverup (Original Post) grantcart Jun 2020 OP
K&R Solly Mack Jun 2020 #1
K & R...for visibility...nt Wounded Bear Jun 2020 #2
Traitortrump wants you to believe his alternate reality so he can continue treasoning. Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2020 #3
Still, not one condemnation of Putin's Russia from Trump. sop Jun 2020 #4
Still! Exactly. This story broke 3 days ago and still nothing... brush Jun 2020 #5
Speaks volumes. They can't agree on a fabrication grantcart Jun 2020 #6
Trump needs Putin help to steal the election. Kaiserguy Jun 2020 #17
True that. But trump has fu_ked up so much I don't think they... brush Jun 2020 #19
Posted this earlier, but it sank. Shows trump catering to Putin after being briefed Nevilledog Jul 2020 #26
Thanks for that grantcart Jul 2020 #29
Ah, the smoking ruble. patphil Jun 2020 #7
KR! Thank Goodness for The Leakers.. who were trying to save the Lives of the American Cha Jun 2020 #8
The intelligence community is primed to unleash a cascade over the next 100 days grantcart Jul 2020 #25
I love the intelligence community! Cha Jul 2020 #27
So, was Pompeo and Rudy in on this??? Anyone? flying_wahini Jun 2020 #9
Pompeo was on the list for distribution and he went to West Point with potential targets. grantcart Jun 2020 #13
Biden as VP JTOL Jun 2020 #10
In addition to the President and VP, Sec of State, Defense and NS Advisor. But could be expanded grantcart Jun 2020 #12
They ALL knew! Lock 'em up! FailureToCommunicate Jun 2020 #14
Pence, Pompeo, Esper and all the top level officials who receive... brush Jun 2020 #15
All with a paper trail grantcart Jun 2020 #23
K&R gademocrat7 Jun 2020 #11
One huge question pops into my mind. Dem2theMax Jun 2020 #16
He wanted to negotiate in person Kaiserguy Jun 2020 #18
To get his cut LiberalArkie Jun 2020 #20
To have a photo op SoonerPride Jun 2020 #21
BOOM solid evidence for Russia paying bounties! GOPers going to the Schultz defence! bobbieinok Jun 2020 #22
K&R for the post and the discussion. crickets Jun 2020 #24
Hard to coverup the bodybags, just like CV OnDoutside Jul 2020 #28

brush

(54,530 posts)
5. Still! Exactly. This story broke 3 days ago and still nothing...
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 05:04 PM
Jun 2020

from the orange turd against Putin, not to mention he's known since Bolton told him in 2019—that's over a year of no action.

We, the public, just found out about it so you'd think trump, since he claims he just found out, would make some noise about sanctions and pretend to be pissed.

But no, Putin must have some real damaging kompromat on his ass, not to mention trump is afraid the Russian oligarchs he owes millions to might call in his loans.

Kaiserguy

(740 posts)
17. Trump needs Putin help to steal the election.
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 05:45 PM
Jun 2020

How else can he win. So neither him or the GOP (Putins Party) will have much to say

brush

(54,530 posts)
19. True that. But trump has fu_ked up so much I don't think they...
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 05:50 PM
Jun 2020

steal it. In 2016 he wasn't the incumbent and could run against Hillary. Now he has to run on his horreondous record.

I wouldn't want to be him.

Nevilledog

(51,842 posts)
26. Posted this earlier, but it sank. Shows trump catering to Putin after being briefed
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 12:20 AM
Jul 2020

Thread: Trump/Putin call summary since he was briefed on Russian Bounties

Great thread on events coinciding with trump calls to Putin

Thread unrolled

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1276871725578440707.html

Cha

(299,299 posts)
8. KR! Thank Goodness for The Leakers.. who were trying to save the Lives of the American
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 05:14 PM
Jun 2020

and UK Soldiers.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
25. The intelligence community is primed to unleash a cascade over the next 100 days
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 12:16 AM
Jul 2020

The most interesting question from 2016 that was never asked and never answered

Who was responsible for leaking the Access Hollywood tape?

Cha

(299,299 posts)
27. I love the intelligence community!
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 12:51 AM
Jul 2020

Remember when trump was giving them shite when he first started on his white power/Putin's puppet trip? I don't remember what it was even about now..

Karma Bites!

I didn't realize who leaked the Access Hollywood tape was unknown.. not that it did much good to keep that freaking Hell Monster OUT.

JTOL

(46 posts)
10. Biden as VP
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 05:15 PM
Jun 2020

said in his news conference today that he received the PDB. Which leads to the question did (or does) Pence receive the PDB? If so, because he can read, must have known about the bounty. So both Trump and Pence would have known.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
12. In addition to the President and VP, Sec of State, Defense and NS Advisor. But could be expanded
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 05:22 PM
Jun 2020

brush

(54,530 posts)
15. Pence, Pompeo, Esper and all the top level officials who receive...
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 05:36 PM
Jun 2020

the PDB, six days a week, are, as Susan Rice said on Rachel last night, all duty bound to go to the Oval Office if trump has not acted on it and propose how to initiate an appropriate response, be it diplomatically, with economic sanctions or top level, militarily.

All of those jokers are as complicit as trump as nothing has been done and they haven't resigned. They should go down too with the orange turd.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
23. All with a paper trail
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 07:53 PM
Jun 2020

Every paper handed to the President has a duplicate stamped

"Seen by the President"

Dem2theMax

(9,711 posts)
16. One huge question pops into my mind.
Tue Jun 30, 2020, 05:42 PM
Jun 2020

Why did Trump want the Taliban to come here and have a meeting with him?

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