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JoeOtterbein

(7,707 posts)
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 10:04 AM Jun 2020

Jill Stein cost Hillary dearly in 2016. Democrats are still writing off her successor.

Politico

The Green Party is set to nominate Howie Hawkins, a Democratic socialist making an explicit play for disaffected Bernie voters.

By ALEX THOMPSON and HOLLY OTTERBEIN

06/20/2020 07:00 AM EDT

ill Stein still haunts Hillary Clinton’s campaign team.

“Oh woof. I can’t bear to talk about that,” said former communications director Jennifer Palmieri.

For good reason: Had voters in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin cast their ballots for Clinton rather than the Green Party’s Stein, Clinton would be president.

Now, with the Green Party set to elevate its presumptive nominee — Howie Hawkins, a longtime labor activist keen on attracting disillusioned Bernie Sanders voters and calling for a “#DemExit” — many Democrats are unfazed. Not to worry, they say: Trump will be a sufficiently mobilizing force for Democrats this time around.

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Jill Stein cost Hillary dearly in 2016. Democrats are still writing off her successor. (Original Post) JoeOtterbein Jun 2020 OP
'Shoot Dems in the Foot' crowd always have to do their thing, first and foremost. empedocles Jun 2020 #1
Oh, Joe. BannonsLiver Jun 2020 #2
The Green Party rears its head every four years to help Republicans get elected. dalton99a Jun 2020 #3
Why not push hashtags for GOPexit? Why target only Dems? blm Jun 2020 #4
Yes, but they show up three or four times more often than cicadas. George II Jun 2020 #6
From what I have been able to gather, all "exits" were/are pushed by the russians. GemDigger Jun 2020 #5
The Green Party's standard bearer four years ago: George II Jun 2020 #7
That is the picture that came to my mind when I made my comment. GemDigger Jun 2020 #10
Ahhh. There it is. Budi Jun 2020 #12
Was it Jill Stein, or Democrats ticked off about the primaries voting for her? Hoyt Jun 2020 #8
Clumsy headline, appears it says that Democrats are writing off Hillary Clinton's successor. George II Jun 2020 #9
Sleazy amateur journalism rears its head. Budi Jun 2020 #13
It's a shitty article. Hack "journalism". The bitter agenda shines through. NurseJackie Jun 2020 #18
What a poorly headlined article. Budi Jun 2020 #11
Joe Biden is a great candidate...and no Democrat is saying...Trump is enough. Thus this article is Demsrule86 Jun 2020 #14
That wasn't going to happen zipplewrath Jun 2020 #15
Terrible "journalism" DenverJared Jun 2020 #16
"Hawkins is running a bare bones campaign with minimal staff." betsuni Jun 2020 #17

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
1. 'Shoot Dems in the Foot' crowd always have to do their thing, first and foremost.
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 10:07 AM
Jun 2020

Good to count the swing states.

More 'theys' are active in critical Kentucky

dalton99a

(82,120 posts)
3. The Green Party rears its head every four years to help Republicans get elected.
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 10:08 AM
Jun 2020

They are as predictable as cicadas


 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
12. Ahhh. There it is.
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 10:39 AM
Jun 2020

Kind pitiful that Politico writers can't grab a headline with Stein's name alone .

They'd get nowhere without Hillary!

🥂

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
8. Was it Jill Stein, or Democrats ticked off about the primaries voting for her?
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 10:26 AM
Jun 2020

Hoping we don't do that again and get trump for 4 more years and two or three more Supreme Court nominations.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
13. Sleazy amateur journalism rears its head.
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 10:44 AM
Jun 2020

Damn, it's really stretching the limit with whomever wrote this.
Politico is the new Enquirer.. 😄
They must be so proud 🤪

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
18. It's a shitty article. Hack "journalism". The bitter agenda shines through.
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 03:56 PM
Jun 2020


Are they volunteers, or does someone actually PAY them to come up with this crap?
 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
11. What a poorly headlined article.
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 10:34 AM
Jun 2020

Shouldn't Hawkins be able to run on his own merit without invoking the division from 2016?

Seems Stein & Hillary was placed in the headline to draw attentiin to Hawkins.

I find that rather poor journalism & would have been more interested in reading a header introducing me to Hawkins had they omitted the headline grabbing names of Stein & Clinton, & extoled the virtues of Hawkins himself.

But it is classic Politico, so ..meh 🙄

The division continues with amateur journalism like this.
All I'm sayin.
It's not 2016 anymore.




Demsrule86

(69,096 posts)
14. Joe Biden is a great candidate...and no Democrat is saying...Trump is enough. Thus this article is
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 10:57 AM
Jun 2020

going in the trash...don't give a damn about The Green Party...I think Democrats now realize that voting Green is voting Republican in the real world. And the left- many who dislike and attack the Democratic Party- are going to find themselves with little power if they are not careful. Democrats are going to have to depend on moderates for winning elections. After all, it was moderates who took back the house and helped us win important elections. these last three years. All I see on the left is some going after safe Democratic seats in safe Democratic areas ...desperate for a win I think.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
15. That wasn't going to happen
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 11:29 AM
Jun 2020
Had voters in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin cast their ballots for Clinton rather than the Green Party’s Stein, Clinton would be president.


The Stein supporters I knew were never going to vote for HRC. They'd a more likely voted for Trump. Most would have just written in someone like Bernie or something.
 

DenverJared

(457 posts)
16. Terrible "journalism"
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 12:01 PM
Jun 2020

In any event, some people just need to get over the sound defeat of their messiah in fair primary elections and line up to support Joe Biden.

Even in their privileged cocoon, they should realize that their tantrum created a Nazi resurrection, put children in cages, separated infants from their parents, cops are killing minorities like it is hunting season, wealthy are getting tax cuts while leaving poor people behind, the environment is fucked up and rule of law and democratic institutions are being wrecked.

Hillary saw it coming. Kudos to her.

betsuni

(26,201 posts)
17. "Hawkins is running a bare bones campaign with minimal staff."
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 01:23 PM
Jun 2020

Uh oh. The Kremlin isn't being very generous this time around.

What a ridiculous headline, terrible.

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