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StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 01:38 PM Jun 2020

How are mask requirements any different than no-smoking prohibitions?

Anybody?

I mean, if a theater can prohibit people from smoking in order to protect the health of other patrons, why shouldn't/can't they require people to wear masks for the same reason?

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How are mask requirements any different than no-smoking prohibitions? (Original Post) StarfishSaver Jun 2020 OP
No shirt, no shoes zipplewrath Jun 2020 #1
Do People That Refuse To Wear Masks Not.... global1 Jun 2020 #2
Well, the seatbelt directly protects you Flaleftist Jun 2020 #15
That's a great point. Ohiogal Jun 2020 #3
But smoking prohibitions are more comparable StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #4
To Answer Your OP Question ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #5
Or seat belts? BlueJac Jun 2020 #6
Seatbelts are a little different StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #7
Do these people text and drive? onecaliberal Jun 2020 #8
They aren't that different, except that the potential harm to others crickets Jun 2020 #9
Great point about contagion. StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #10
No shirt, no shoes, no service. What an insult to personal freedom! LastDemocratInSC Jun 2020 #11
The no shoes, no shirt, no service theme Staph Jun 2020 #12
Oh, the smokers pissed and moaned about those, too... Aristus Jun 2020 #13
I think so. People whined & carried on about cigarettes, seatbelts, motorcycle helmets, insecticides Hekate Jun 2020 #14

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
1. No shirt, no shoes
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 01:44 PM
Jun 2020

They can prevent you from wearing, or not wearing, all sorts of things. Seat belts, hard hats, helmets, gosh one could go on and on about all of the things governments can require in terms of clothing.

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
15. Well, the seatbelt directly protects you
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 08:27 PM
Jun 2020

and for the most part, non-N95 masks are to protect others from you.

Ohiogal

(32,212 posts)
3. That's a great point.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 01:45 PM
Jun 2020

Also, how is it any different than when a business puts up a sign, “No shirt, no shoes, no service “?

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
4. But smoking prohibitions are more comparable
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 01:53 PM
Jun 2020

They are not for the protection of the smoker and it doesn't matter whether the smoker wants to smoke or doesn't or whether they care or not about their own health and safety. It's SOLELY about the health and safety of other people. If theaters and other public venues can ban smoking without smokers throwing fits about their "freedoms" or constitutional rights, they surely can require people to wear masks to come on to their property.

ProfessorGAC

(65,466 posts)
5. To Answer Your OP Question
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 01:55 PM
Jun 2020

You're right. There's no difference.
Except PINO and the cult made not wearing a mask into a dumb political statement.
Even Schwarzenegger has tweeted that turning it into a political statement is moronic.
And, he was an R as governor.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
7. Seatbelts are a little different
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 01:59 PM
Jun 2020

Seatbelts laws are primarily (although not completely) intended to protect the safety of the person required to wear them.

Mask requirements are intended to protect other people, just like cigarette smoking bans are.

crickets

(25,995 posts)
9. They aren't that different, except that the potential harm to others
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 03:22 PM
Jun 2020

around a non-mask wearer is much more immediate and therefore arguably more deadly. It potentially only takes one exposure rather than many over time. Also, the smoker only affects those around him at that time. There's no question of infection. For instance, no one can carry the potential cancer home with them to infect others, who may unknowingly affect others still, and so on.

Staph

(6,258 posts)
12. The no shoes, no shirt, no service theme
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 06:22 PM
Jun 2020

is still useful in discussing pandemic precautions.

If a restaurant tells you no shoes, no shirt, do you expect them to supply you with a pair of shoes or a shirt just because you want to eat there? Nope, you bring your own. So, bring your own mask, idjit!


Aristus

(66,530 posts)
13. Oh, the smokers pissed and moaned about those, too...
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 06:25 PM
Jun 2020

Upset that they had to breathe fresh air.

Deprived of the opportunity to pollute the breathing air of non-smokers...

I'll never forget my grandmother smoking at the table during a family dinner at a restaurant. I was a poor little eight year-old kid who couldn't breathe. When I complained, she said I was the one being rude.

Hekate

(91,055 posts)
14. I think so. People whined & carried on about cigarettes, seatbelts, motorcycle helmets, insecticides
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 08:24 PM
Jun 2020

You name it, someone figures their personal rights are/were being infringed if they have to comply with a public health measure.

Going waaay back, people used to think it was their right to spit on floors and sidewalks. Sounds disgusting as hell, doesn't it? But gosh almighty, brass spittoons were not always available and I'm not sure when paper hankies were invented, but they cost money, and when a feller has a gob in his mouth he has to spit.

But it turned out it was one factor in spreading tuberculosis, which killed a lot of people. So "No Spitting" signs went up, it was outlawed, and eventually the culture changed.

What we lack right now is intelligent leadership instead of someone who wants to stoke the culture wars & damn the consequences.



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