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(270,087 posts)This is how they will learn
The Velveteen Ocelot
(116,436 posts)Maybe if people want to keep being racist assholes they'll remember to just do it in private by voting for Trump and using the n-word among friends at posh dinner parties that they still get invited to because they haven't been outed on social media and fired by their embarrassed employers. But the good thing about social media is that when dumb racists post shit on Twitter or say shit while they're being recorded, at least we know who they are.
malaise
(270,087 posts)we shall all live in peace
Wounded Bear
(58,921 posts)malaise
(270,087 posts)They think they are free to tell us how to live - they make me sick.
pandr32
(11,694 posts)Their privilege and rights matter more in their view.
Nevilledog
(51,630 posts)Alex4Martinez
(2,215 posts)They might have a higher economic rank, which is vulgar but typical in our rotten culture.
But Mr. Juanillo outranks the two of them in terms of humanity, I think you'll agree!
malaise
(270,087 posts)How sad that they don't know their neighbor.
brush
(54,304 posts)A lot of people who you'd think were smarter keep getting caught on video being straight up racists who then suffer the doxxing consequences.
When will they learn.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)These are the same people who used to whisper their hate while covering their mouths for fear of being heard. Ugh! I hated that I was guilty by dint of the color of my skin.
Trump has given them permission to come out in the open to spew their hate, contaminating the earth. We need to drive them into the swamps again, because at least then we dont have them screaming in our faces.
Oppaloopa
(868 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Remember that woman from a couple of weeks ago ranting about how much she loved Trump and his wall, and her hoping that he send "all of them back to the shithoke countries that they came from"? She thought that she was uniformly Zooming with friends that were ok with her fucking racism.
orwell
(7,787 posts)...in a very expensive city.
You have a lot of money if you live in Pacific Heights.
This woman and her husband were very representative of the type of people that live in the neighborhood.
I'm sure they will both land on their feet.
madaboutharry
(40,265 posts)with BLM.
Watch here to the end:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017587656
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)These people claimed to have no idea who this neighbor was, but ... when the police arrived, they recognized him immediately as a homeowner they knew, and they left.
Apparently, his ownership and presence in that neighborhood was neither new nor a big secret, but these two people never seemed to have seen him before.
This is what it means to be invisible in America. We are not seen until we are seen as a menace or a criminal.
CaptainTruth
(6,655 posts)Boomer
(4,174 posts)This negates the people who defend the neighbors' lie with the suggestions that they knew the previous owner of the house. Umm, nope, that's not the case.
AllyCat
(16,334 posts)Thank you. It has opened my eyes in another way.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,517 posts).......... ..........
(James) Juanillo, who identifies as Filipino, said he has rented the house for nearly two decades.
"People should ask themselves if this Karen would have believed me if I said, 'Yes Maam, I sure do live in this multi million dollar mansion, for almost 18 years now!'" he tweeted on Saturday. "If she was capable of believing that in the first place, she would never have bothered me."
From: https://www.sfgate.com/local/editorspicks/article/Lisa-Alexander-apology-Black-Lives-Matter-SF-15339447.php
Racism, xenophobia and elitism seems to come along with high wealth in most cases but with a thin veneer of social responsibility. Sadly, far too many Americans worship this class of people.
KY
alittlelark
(18,891 posts)JI7
(89,348 posts)They might have just seen a person of color and assumed maybe he was delivering food or doing some other job . But never thought he could actually own the place.
OnlinePoker
(5,734 posts)I wonder how long before they'll be forced to move out of the area because they can't afford it anymore.
csziggy
(34,144 posts)And her business now being linked to her racism? I wouldn't be at all surprised if they spend every penny of their formerly high income and they don't have enough set aside to support them through hard times.
What a shame if they have to move to a less affluent neighborhood.
hunter
(38,422 posts)... and intolerant of anyone who isn't.
Perhaps Trump will invite them to Oklahoma and they'll find a place there.
I doubt they are going to end up homeless.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)AZ8theist
(5,634 posts)sheshe2
(84,328 posts)SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)Maybe people will learn to mind their own fucking business.
uponit7771
(90,408 posts)42bambi
(1,753 posts)BComplex
(8,163 posts)I'm so glad they have been outed. Racists are coming out of the woodwork since trump took the bully pulpit.
NBachers
(17,275 posts)AllaN01Bear
(19,524 posts)another one hitting the unemplyment lines . why arnt these people being charged with false police reports ? lemme guess, white ? and dear leader is embolding them.
packman
(16,296 posts)Into a less "Comfortable" one with maybe more chalk sayings they will have to bear seeing. Poor things--
lunatica
(53,410 posts)HAB911
(9,015 posts)samsingh
(17,623 posts)let's not forget their names
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)So this is the remedy, zero tolerance to racism. These people wont learn until their livelihoods are taken away.
zentrum
(9,866 posts)Thanks for the info.
All I saw was him asking her to call them.
Severe social and economic consequences are all that will work for White privilege.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)bonniebgood
(943 posts)record who owns the property. because in her mind brown people couldn't possible own property in this neighborhood.
what ever happen to minding your own damn business?
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)She obviously had just been looking through him for years and only saw him when she thought he was committing a crime.
LisaM
(27,901 posts)He says above that he's rented the house for 18 years. He doesn't actually own the property.
They certainly should have known he lives there. I lived in the same rental house for 18 years and we knew all our neighbors.
louis-t
(23,354 posts)I want to keep asking these morons if spouting their 'opinions' all over social media then losing their jobs was worth it?
zentrum
(9,866 posts)I'm so sorry I can't do these things with impunity any more.
I'm so sorry I got outed by video.
I'm so sorry I will now have consequences.
Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)I can understand her confusion, Her President has showed her everyday that she COULD do these things. But, the times they are a changing. Now, join the ranks of the little people that Trump's incompetence have shoved on to the unemployment lines.
Boomer
(4,174 posts)It's oh-so-perfect. I'm sure she paid someone else good money to write a sincere and politically correct apology, so she doesn't end up sticking her foot in her mouth all over again.
yellowcanine
(35,729 posts)Gothmog
(146,767 posts)KY_EnviroGuy
(14,517 posts)I get exhausted from reading of corporations making face-saving moves when many are rotten to core with promoting global economic and asset inequality which is at the root of a system that literally profits from division, building walls and injustice.....all of which encourage racism.
Firing Mr. Larkin was the right thing to do but in light of the above, it's really superficial and business goes on as usual.
Their systemic racism will simply go from occasionally overt to increasingly covert.
Thanks for the post, StarfishSaver........
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)And if getting socked in the pocketbook gets their attention, I'm all for it.
And no, I don't agree that it becoming increasingly covert is a bad thing. It takes a long time to change hearts and minds. But we can change behavior. And when the behavior changes, hearts and minds usually follow.
JI7
(89,348 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)That is the only way it stops.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Racists won't learn until you start fucking up their cash flow.
Crunchy Frog
(26,748 posts)It can cost you your job, your business, your future employment prospects, your reputation, and basically, you can wreck your life.
I wonder when these types are finally going to learn to control themselves, even just out of naked self interest.
Maybe there should be something like a social Darwin Award.
mountain grammy
(26,740 posts)NBachers
(17,275 posts)Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)The mannerisms and attitude are an uncanny match. Many similarities physically also.
A few years ago my sister demanded to see the "papers" of my aunt's tenant. He was a proud Cuban guy and totally outraged.
Major difference is my sister would be drunk and stumbling. No question about it.
JoeDuck
(79 posts)but I can't feel celebratory over someone being fired, or even for expressing a racist opinion. Loss of job may be the right penalty but that doesn't make me happy. I remain sad, perhaps angry, that so many people retain evil racist thoughts and act on them. I keep hoping that the next generation or the next after that will have overcome harboring ill will over others because of differences in appearance. But with Donald Trump feeding raw meat to the Lions of Bigotry, I don't know how long it will take.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)But if anyone does feel that way it is probably less about the fact that someone lost their job and more about the fact that when people see that systems that have consistently ignored and explained away their oppression and tell us we're overreacting ehen we are mistreated actually acknowledge that oppression, stand with us for a change and take steps to address that oppression, it is a great feeling.
If losing his job isn't an appropriate remedy, what do you suggest? And please don't suggest training or conversation, etc. This man and his wife didn't treat that man the way they did for lack of knowledge or information. They did it because they felt they COULD because they had never had to experience any consequences for their behavior.