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Sun Apr 26, 2020, 01:14 AM

VA and hydroxychloroquine

I am waiting for this to blow up. It passed by on the lower right side of the CNN page at 4 a.m. last night. It's not blowing up yet. Will it?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/24/politics/veterans-affairs-continue-hydroxychloroquine-treatment/index.html

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Reply VA and hydroxychloroquine (Original post)
Lulu KC Apr 2020 OP
UTUSN Apr 2020 #1
live love laugh Apr 2020 #3
UTUSN Apr 2020 #4
2naSalit Apr 2020 #2
greytdemocrat Apr 2020 #5
Lulu KC Apr 2020 #8
Rstrstx Apr 2020 #13
The River Apr 2020 #6
UTUSN Apr 2020 #7
The River Apr 2020 #9
UTUSN Apr 2020 #10
The River Apr 2020 #11
UTUSN Apr 2020 #12

Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Sun Apr 26, 2020, 01:20 AM

1. Of course the VA will kiss SHITLER ass about the hydroxy- -------- FUBAR

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Response to UTUSN (Reply #1)

Sun Apr 26, 2020, 01:51 AM

3. The VA is under Trump's command. They're not kissing his ass

IMHO. Weíve seen what happens to whistleblowers vs. criminals.

Trumpís administration has included hydroxychloroquine in the VA protocol and thatís what needs to be exposed.

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Response to live love laugh (Reply #3)

Sun Apr 26, 2020, 01:53 AM

4. I know what the VA does.

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Sun Apr 26, 2020, 01:30 AM

2. well of course...

Remember that he appointed his friends from MAGA laga to run the VA so guess what they'll be doing, whatever shitler tells them to do.

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Sun Apr 26, 2020, 02:02 AM

5. I'm sorry

But everything I've read about this drug,
except here on DU, says it's a valid
and life saving product.

Why is everyone here so against it?

Every drug has a potential down side but
I just don't understand the near
hatred of this drug here.

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Response to greytdemocrat (Reply #5)

Sun Apr 26, 2020, 02:24 AM

8. FDA, for one

https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-cautions-against-use-hydroxychloroquine-or-chloroquine-covid-19-outside-hospital-setting-or

+ the fact that Trump has financial interest in company that produces it.

I just did a basic Google search on it to see if I'd missed something based on your post. Fine for malaria! Fine for arthritis! In original article I posted, it cites death rate as higher in those who are using it for COVID-19.

Where have you heard the contrary?

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Response to greytdemocrat (Reply #5)

Sun Apr 26, 2020, 04:16 AM

13. The jury is still out

Here's a good (and recent) video summarizing what is currently known, starting at the 5:45 mark:



And yes, unfortunately like everything else Trump has managed to politicize medicine, which is why I suspect many people are projecting their political biases onto the drug. In the meantime we'll have to wait for the results of proper clinical trials involving the chloroquines and other drugs being paired with them. There are many other drugs being tried, hopefully there will be some encouraging clinical results soon (the sooner the better). Here's another video where a New York doctor gives his opinion on the potential of current drugs:



A little disappointed he didn't discuss Avigan (favipiravir), but its availability is limited at this time.

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Sun Apr 26, 2020, 02:07 AM

6. A Veteran Has The Right

to refuse any procedure or drug they don't want.
I'm always amazed by vets who don't know their patient rights.

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Response to The River (Reply #6)

Sun Apr 26, 2020, 02:21 AM

7. Yea, refuse anything the VA says and it's my-way-or-the-highway.

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Response to UTUSN (Reply #7)

Sun Apr 26, 2020, 03:06 AM

9. Not In My Experience

The VA goes way out of their way for me.
If I need a specialist they find one. They will send me
to DoD hospitals if they don't have the equipment locally.
When you know your rights and exercise them, they tend to listen.
I can't say enough good things about the VA system in NorCal.

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Response to The River (Reply #9)

Sun Apr 26, 2020, 03:11 AM

10. Your experience ain't mine. Yours is just yours, nobody else's.

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Response to UTUSN (Reply #10)

Sun Apr 26, 2020, 03:21 AM

11. Not Just My Experience

Oct 7, 2019 - The survey, which asked Veterans about their experience with VA health care since the MISSION Act was implemented, found that more than 80% were satisfied with their VA health care. Nearly 75% of Veteran respondents reported improvements at their local VA, and more than 90% would recommend VA care to fellow Veterans.

https://www.va.gov/opa/pressrel/pressrelease.cfm?id=5328

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Response to The River (Reply #11)

Sun Apr 26, 2020, 03:46 AM

12. Not mine. You can't negate my experience with yours or 1000s of others. Bye.

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