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babylonsister

(171,081 posts)
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 10:13 AM Apr 2020

"I did not sign up for the military. I signed up for Walmart."


“I did not sign up for the military. I signed up for Walmart.”

What grocery store workers say they’re facing during the pandemic.
By Anna North Apr 23, 2020, 7:40am EDT


A few weeks ago, Evelyn Hall asked her manager at Walmart why the store wasn’t giving workers gloves and masks.

The manager’s response, according to Hall: “Wash your hands every 15 minutes, so you don’t need a glove or a mask.”

“She just walked away from me and started laughing, like it was funny,” Hall said.

The lack of protective equipment wasn’t the only reason Hall, a Walmart employee for 28 years, felt unsafe at her Maryland store. The store also wasn’t counting customers to maintain social distancing and prevent crowding, she said. And she’d also heard from other employees that workers at her store had contracted Covid-19 — but management had never informed other employees or closed the store.

Hall is 68 years old with diabetes and high blood pressure, conditions that put her at high risk of severe illness from Covid. With so few protections in place, she felt Walmart was putting her life on the line.

“I did not sign up for the military,” she says she told her manager. “I signed up for Walmart.”


She is far from alone. Grocery workers around the country say that despite their position on the front lines of the pandemic, stores have been slow to implement policies that would keep them safe. And the toll of the virus on the people who help feed America has already been devastating: As of April 18, at least 18 Walmart employees had died, and 10 percent of the company’s workforce was on leave, according to the Wall Street Journal. Workers have died at Trader Joe’s, Safeway, and Kroger stores around the country as well.

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https://www.vox.com/2020/4/23/21229942/coronavirus-grocery-store-workers-walmart-covid-pandemic
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"I did not sign up for the military. I signed up for Walmart." (Original Post) babylonsister Apr 2020 OP
Already 1 wrongful death suit filed against Wal-Mart SheltieLover Apr 2020 #1
And Safeway and Kroger are unionized. marybourg Apr 2020 #2
I know Kroger has issued masks to all of its affiliates bigtree Apr 2020 #11
At our Dillon's, a Kroger subsidiary, most workers wear masks & gloves. nt tblue37 Apr 2020 #17
Read this, posted this morning: marybourg Apr 2020 #27
I'd Like To Know RobinA Apr 2020 #26
It's a regional thing-- the local Walmart issues gloves and masks to its workers and will not... TreasonousBastard Apr 2020 #3
If those precautions were followed stringently I think some other businesses could open Maraya1969 Apr 2020 #4
I agree Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2020 #5
They are so stupid! I would love to "bundle up" and go wander around one of the open Maraya1969 Apr 2020 #7
Bad behavior ruins everybody's fun Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2020 #9
Then they should be expelled. n/t MarcA Apr 2020 #19
Behind every stupid MAGAt is a greedy propagandist. Hermit-The-Prog Apr 2020 #20
It's the same for Walmart stores in the Hudson Valley. In_The_Wind Apr 2020 #6
Hudson Valley, Long Island... We have the same Governor. Think that makes the difference? TreasonousBastard Apr 2020 #13
Yes, I think that's why we'll be alive longer. In_The_Wind Apr 2020 #15
Not where I live: the walmart here has no gloves, no masks, and people are shoulder to shoulder BComplex Apr 2020 #12
I won't go to any of the big box stores. lark Apr 2020 #8
we just got masks this week, along with the edict from mgmt. that wearing a face cover is mandatory. bigtree Apr 2020 #10
Latex? or nitrile? Maru Kitteh Apr 2020 #14
Well, they do have the right to quit Zing Zing Zingbah Apr 2020 #16
Your Money or Your Life. The same "choice" given by armed robbers. n/t MarcA Apr 2020 #21
Hear, hear! They're in danger, most well past 30, Hortensis Apr 2020 #18
I have the same look in my face...my SO works at Home Depot and so I worry, daily... SWBTATTReg Apr 2020 #22
Well, now we have an idea of what you look like. Hortensis Apr 2020 #24
You're right, most of us will be okay. I reassure myself constantly that all are being safe, SWBTATTReg Apr 2020 #25
Right. This is a "take care" year that will shape almost all of us. Hortensis Apr 2020 #29
and washed the plastic wrap again so it can be used again! All of the stuff I had brought over... SWBTATTReg Apr 2020 #30
:) Impressive! I'm not so good but moving that way. Hortensis Apr 2020 #31
On the top the entire Walmart company is evil. Doreen Apr 2020 #23
Er, isn't this a workers compensation case? soryang Apr 2020 #28
The Waltons can't afford to buy PPE for their employees Martin Eden Apr 2020 #32

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
11. I know Kroger has issued masks to all of its affiliates
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 10:58 AM
Apr 2020

...and now requires all associates to wear face-covering.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
3. It's a regional thing-- the local Walmart issues gloves and masks to its workers and will not...
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 10:21 AM
Apr 2020

let you in without a mask. Floors are labelled with 6' distances, and aisles are labelled one way.

It's taken very seriously around here, and even the 7-11's make you wear a mask.

Maraya1969

(22,495 posts)
4. If those precautions were followed stringently I think some other businesses could open
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 10:28 AM
Apr 2020

up. But it would have to be law because too many people do not take these things seriously.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,437 posts)
5. I agree
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 10:31 AM
Apr 2020

but then those damned right-wing protesters/legislators will be screaming about THAT. "Personal FREEDUMB!"

Maraya1969

(22,495 posts)
7. They are so stupid! I would love to "bundle up" and go wander around one of the open
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 10:35 AM
Apr 2020

malls around here just to look at stuff. I think it would be good for people's spirits to be able to see something different. But I fear idiots will make that impossible.

BComplex

(8,064 posts)
12. Not where I live: the walmart here has no gloves, no masks, and people are shoulder to shoulder
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 11:17 AM
Apr 2020

all over the place. I went in there last week for the first time since COVID-19 arrived on our shores, and, luckily, I had gloves and a mask, but some guy got right up in my face at the self-check-out line, so I went home and took my clothes off to wash, and threw away the gloves and mask, then I took a shower and washed my hair.

I'm not willing to die for a trip to walmart. I hardly ever go to walmart to begin with (can't stand the place), but in a small town, it's sometimes the only place to buy certain items without having to drive an hour each way.

lark

(23,155 posts)
8. I won't go to any of the big box stores.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 10:47 AM
Apr 2020

FL has deemed them "essential" so they are all open. People are going to them to visit and congregate and just walk the aisles and lots don't wear masks. Some Walmarts regulate their areas, with limited people allowed in, red tape everywhere, and the ee all have masks and gloves. Others, are just pure open with no restrictions - seems to be manager discretion? I'd love to go to Target for example, and just look at their adoptable kittens, but there are too many idiot trumpers so I just go to Publix when necessary. They put up plastic shields for the cashiers and their folks are wearing masks and they have one way aisles (though some idiots don't observe these). There's a person who disinfects every cart that comes in as well, so overall with my mask on I feel ok there, but still don''t dither, just go in, get whatever and get out. No stopping and talking with others about the veggies now, no searching for the perfect cantaloupe, just get one and get out of there as quickly as possible.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
10. we just got masks this week, along with the edict from mgmt. that wearing a face cover is mandatory.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 10:56 AM
Apr 2020

...they're substandard, with strings that separate easily from the fabric, but they're enough to go around, so far.

No edict on gloves, though latex ones are plentiful.

Pretty good compliance, but instances of non-compliance can prove critical. You can see the holes in the strategy and it's frightening to think the virus could be among us and ready to exploit the deliberate and inadvertent holes in our defenses.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
16. Well, they do have the right to quit
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 11:53 AM
Apr 2020

In the military you just can't quit. Of course they probably want to get paid. Tough choice, but they still have that choice.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. Hear, hear! They're in danger, most well past 30,
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 12:05 PM
Apr 2020

way past time for laws requiring strict protections and furloughs for workers in high-risks groups.

I had a purchase brought to the curb from an auto parts store the other day, brought by some old fart well into his 70s, no mask, no gloves, no brain, hadn't even known they offered curbside pickup, and tried to give me his pen to sign the receipt that'd been paid for 4 days before on line.

Most middle-aged checkers I've seen, though, are now grimly aware that they are on the front lines. You can see it in their faces, and not just when you offer them a "stay well."

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. Well, now we have an idea of what you look like.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 01:00 PM
Apr 2020

By far most people will be fine, of course. I know you're hanging on to that. Even hiding at home with my close-to-80 husband, I've felt a need to calm and comfort myself with statistics after reading some scary new findings, so I can at least somewhat imagine.






SWBTATTReg

(22,156 posts)
25. You're right, most of us will be okay. I reassure myself constantly that all are being safe,
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 01:08 PM
Apr 2020

and that being freaked out doesn't do anyone any good. Be smart and positive. Take care.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
29. Right. This is a "take care" year that will shape almost all of us.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 01:31 PM
Apr 2020

Like depression folk who saved rubber bands and foil the rest of their lives, not because they had to or were traumatized but they'd come to believe in it.

SWBTATTReg

(22,156 posts)
30. and washed the plastic wrap again so it can be used again! All of the stuff I had brought over...
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 06:27 AM
Apr 2020

the years (last 5 or so) are now coming back into play!

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
23. On the top the entire Walmart company is evil.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 12:57 PM
Apr 2020

Then it goes by individual stores. I have found that the Walmart in my red county continues there evil treatment of their employees. I and several friends have experienced their hate. The stores in Thurston county ( blue ) actually seem to be better to their employees.
I know a couple of people who work at one and I was surprised when they told me the good treatment they got.

I have talked to other people who have worked or do work with Walmart and most do not have anything good to say about them.

So far, the two other grocery store's employees have seemed happy with their work conditions. One of them is Safeway. That could also just be the one we have here.

A lot of people do not know that when you get a job with Walmart they take out an insurance policy on you so if you die they get money. No, your death does not have to do with them at all.

soryang

(3,299 posts)
28. Er, isn't this a workers compensation case?
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 01:30 PM
Apr 2020

is this being alleged as an intentional tort outside the scope of employment? be interesting to see the complaint and answer.

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