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Fri Apr 17, 2020, 09:54 PM

Biden looks to placate Sanders by letting him keep delegates

(Associated Press) WASHINGTON - Seeking to avoid the bitter feelings that marred the 2016 Democratic convention, Joe Biden’s campaign is angling to allow Bernie Sanders to keep some of the delegates he would otherwise forfeit by dropping out of the presidential race.

Under a strict application of party rules, Sanders should lose about a third of the delegates he’s won in primaries and caucuses as the process moves ahead and states select the actual people who will attend the Democratic National Convention. The rules say those delegates should be Biden supporters, as he is the only candidate still actively seeking the party’s nomination.

Quiet talks between the two campaigns center on allowing Sanders to keep some of his delegates, essentially a goodwill gesture from a presumptive nominee seeking to court Sanders’ progressive supporters and unite the party. It is not yet settled how many.

“We feel strongly that it is in the best interest of the party to ensure that the Sanders campaign receives statewide delegates to reflect the work that they have done to contribute to the movement that will beat Donald Trump this fall,” said a Biden official, who wasn’t authorized to discuss private negotiations publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity. “We are in discussion with them now on how to best accomplish that.”

Sanders’ campaign declined to comment on the talks. “Nothing to add from us,” said Sanders spokesman Mike Casca.

In some ways, the delegate count is a moot point. While he has yet to formally win the 1,991 delegates needed to claim the Democratic nomination on the first ballot at the party convention, Biden is the Democrat’s presumptive nominee. All of his rivals — including Sanders — have endorsed him after ending their own campaigns.

But with the nomination essentially decided, who has how many delegates takes on a new meaning. In 2016, rowdy Sanders supporters booed some speakers and any mention of nominee Hillary Clinton at the party’s Philadelphia convention. The disruptions were so embarrassing to the party that Sanders pleaded with his supporters not to stage protests on the floor.

By claiming the delegates that ought to belong to him under party rules, Biden could cut down on the number of Sanders’ backers — some of whom have been slow to embrace the former vice president — who could stage a replay of that divide. Instead, he’s decided to try to attract Sanders’ supporters rather than silence them.

For his part, Sanders wants as many delegates as possible to help shape the party’s platform and get Biden and the Democratic Party to embrace his democratic socialist agenda.

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FM123 Apr 2020 OP
questionseverything Apr 2020 #1
lunasun Apr 2020 #5
Haggis for Breakfast Apr 2020 #2
questionseverything Apr 2020 #9
Haggis for Breakfast Apr 2020 #10
questionseverything Apr 2020 #11
Haggis for Breakfast Apr 2020 #13
questionseverything Apr 2020 #14
empedocles Apr 2020 #3
dustyscamp Apr 2020 #4
honest.abe Apr 2020 #6
Demguy81 Apr 2020 #7
SidDithers Apr 2020 #8
comradebillyboy Apr 2020 #12
tritsofme Apr 2020 #15
question everything Apr 2020 #16

Response to FM123 (Original post)

Fri Apr 17, 2020, 09:59 PM

1. biden is acting like a true leader,attracting supporters rather than silence them

wtg joe!!!!


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Response to questionseverything (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 17, 2020, 11:18 PM

5. +Shows he is ready to lead all but listen to others . Working to rally around beating trump

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Fri Apr 17, 2020, 10:11 PM

2. The goal is to oust trumpie.

I'm sorry, but THIS IS NOT THE TIME FOR EGO MESSAGING.

Geezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

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Response to Haggis for Breakfast (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 18, 2020, 03:05 PM

9. the goal is to build a winning

coalition

to oust the current occupant

I think biden is doing a great job at that!

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Response to questionseverything (Reply #9)

Sat Apr 18, 2020, 08:54 PM

10. I agree, but I'm getting a little tired of some of the Sanders supporters.

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Response to Haggis for Breakfast (Reply #10)

Sat Apr 18, 2020, 09:09 PM

11. We need them to win

the compromises they have forged so far, Medicare at 60 if you want and the student loan forgiveness are great plans,don't you think?

No one gets everything they want,lets hope we get what we need

Concentrate on what a great statesman Joe is being ,learn from him

The important thing is to get the Russian mobster out

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Response to questionseverything (Reply #11)

Sat Apr 18, 2020, 09:48 PM

13. The people I'm referring to are the ones who have said

repeatedly that they will NOT vote for Biden under any circumstances.

I worked in the Demos field offices in 1992, 1996, 2008 and again in 2012, so I know quite well how the game is played. No one gets everything they want. Ever. Joe Biden is a class act and knows how to work across the aisle to form partnerships. I will volunteer again if there is a field office close to where I live now.

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Response to Haggis for Breakfast (Reply #13)

Sat Apr 18, 2020, 10:05 PM

14. i haven't seen anyone say anything like that here at du

don't let some troll on twitter ruin your out look

this is a positive article and a positive announcement


smile, we are gonna run the current occupant out and then hopefully to a prison cell,if we follow Joe's lead

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Fri Apr 17, 2020, 10:32 PM

3. BS

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Fri Apr 17, 2020, 10:57 PM

4. Good gesture

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Sat Apr 18, 2020, 07:12 AM

6. Biden is probably right to do this but I hope it doesnt backfire.

My thinking is to put an end to the primary as soon as possible and letting Sanders keep all his delegates prolongs that.

However, at this point it is essentially over and this is probably smart politics to help keep Sanders and his supporters feel they are part of the process going forward.

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Sat Apr 18, 2020, 11:28 AM

7. Biden is REALLY good at this politics thing.

He knows that there is zero risk and only upside to doing this. It's free money.

I was a Sanders voter, but Biden has done nothing but impress me so far. I have to say, I've always liked Biden, but his recent moves are moving me into being an enthusiastic supporter of his - it shows that he knows how to build coalitions, a key to succeeding in politics that Sanders was never truly able to master.

KEEP IT UP JOE!!!

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Sat Apr 18, 2020, 11:32 AM

8. Would the same thing have happened in reverse?...nt

Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #8)

Sat Apr 18, 2020, 09:14 PM

12. Very unlikely...

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Sat Apr 18, 2020, 10:08 PM

15. This is very much inside baseball.

Important to perhaps a few dozen folks, but if it helps at the margins, I have no objection.

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Sun Apr 19, 2020, 10:32 PM

16. If true. This is disappointing

This, in addition the Biden campaign adopting some of the Sanders' ideas. And if, as reported,
negotiations between the two campaigns also involve discussions about Biden's future cabinet, including which progressives will go where, as well as who cannot play a role. Also banning anyone who has worked on or near Wall Street, the fossil-fuel industry, the health-insurance sector and the lobbying world, to name a few.

Traditionally, once winning the nomination candidates move to the cener. Here, it appears, the move it to the left.

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