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oh larwdem Apr 2020 #1
From Nigh On Half a Century Ago, Sir? The Magistrate Apr 2020 #2
well SamBob Apr 2020 #3
Thank you, Sam Light63 Apr 2020 #11
On DU, people aren't allowed to call out other members. Solly Mack Apr 2020 #4
So, there are two choices, Biden or Trump, and if you can't vote for OnDoutside Apr 2020 #5
2012 not 2008 just saying. Bye. ALBliberal Apr 2020 #6
Al. I was here when Obama won his first presidential election. Light63 Apr 2020 #10
Then you are naive about American History. Caliman73 Apr 2020 #7
Thank you, Caliman Light63 Apr 2020 #9
what is this about? TIA Celerity Apr 2020 #8
Most LIkely, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2020 #13
I just want Trump out, and Biden is the candidate we have to roll with now. I keep it simple, lol. Celerity Apr 2020 #14
It's never ok to call out another DUer like this. herding cats Apr 2020 #12
Herding cats Light63 Apr 2020 #16
You're not making it any better here. herding cats Apr 2020 #17
Delete your post and put your personal drama to bed, please? herding cats Apr 2020 #18
herding cats is correct Rhiannon12866 Apr 2020 #19
. JimGinPA Apr 2020 #15
hear hear Demonaut Apr 2020 #20

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
2. From Nigh On Half a Century Ago, Sir?
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 02:34 AM
Apr 2020

Please. If any 'Vietnamese friend' asks about this, tell the fella where the door is, and since he or she will clearly be too idiotic to proceed on their own, explain to them just how a door is used.

Jesus H. Christ on a pogo-stick....




"Defeat of a hated enemy is something to be for."

SamBob

(61 posts)
3. well
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 02:37 AM
Apr 2020
https://apnews.com/d1873c0d1e01246c23b76313100381e3
I read this and he regrets a decision made during obama administration on deportation.
But like obama says, we need a change and i don't think changing your mind is and basically apologizing is a bad thing. which is what Biden is basically doing.

Solly Mack

(91,745 posts)
4. On DU, people aren't allowed to call out other members.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 02:39 AM
Apr 2020

Meaning, you can't go after another member in the manner in which you have called out jberryhill.

You've been on DU long enough to know that having been around since 2008.

Please delete your attack.

You can make your point without expressing your dislike of another member on the board.

Thank you.

OnDoutside

(20,566 posts)
5. So, there are two choices, Biden or Trump, and if you can't vote for
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 02:40 AM
Apr 2020

Biden, THEN where does that leave you ? Is that where Biden is now ? He's been in politics for 50 years, and has made mistakes. Sanders has been active in politics for the same amount of time, has troubling history on guns, would that be an ok issue not to vote for him if he were the nominee ?

Light63

(233 posts)
10. Al. I was here when Obama won his first presidential election.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 03:11 AM
Apr 2020

I was so proud and thrilled of having a Chicagoan being the President of the USA. I don’t live too far from his Chicago home in Hyde Park.

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
7. Then you are naive about American History.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 02:53 AM
Apr 2020

This country has always had a love/hate relationship with immigrants and it isn't confined to one Party or the other. Generally, in modern times, Democrats have a more generous attitude about immigrants but that doesn't mean that they want to allow every immigrant at all times, no questions asked. President Obama was regularly criticized for deporting more undocumented immigrants than any other administration, granted he focused on those who were committing crimes while here and wanted to protect those who had been living here as productive residents. FDR for his greatness, allowed discrimination against Black People and Mexicans by the labor movement, not extending the benefits of collective bargaining to them.

To suggest such a binary point of view is a bit troubling. We are a nation of progress, not perfection. We strive to be better, and generally Democrats work toward a better society for more people, but we can suffer the same prejudices as any other human.

Vietnam was a national embarrassment in the United States for decades after the war. We went to war for stupid reasons, killed many young men and scarred a generation, and we lost. I am sure there was a sentiment of not wanting to have people from that war reminding the US of its failures. I have no idea why Biden would have been against assistance for refugees. It is something that happened 45 years ago. The Party and country have changed since that time.

Light63

(233 posts)
9. Thank you, Caliman
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 03:09 AM
Apr 2020

This is what I’m looking for. I have a clearer picture to response now. I know Biden is a good person, a Catholic as I am, and will be a good president. I was brought to tears watching Obama’s video clip endorsing Biden yesterday. So many good memories rushing back and made me realize how much I missed those eight good years under Obama & Biden.

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
13. Most LIkely, Ma'am
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 03:20 AM
Apr 2020

Many people here in 1975 were not too eager to see people who fled the Communist take-over in Vietnam resettled here. There were a lot of reasons, on top of garden variety racism. I can recall meeting around then two fellows doing grounds work at a gold course who acknowledged having been members of the national police there, but insisted they did nothing but type while so employed. They did not strike me as truthful men. Even many on the right who supported the war viewed our Vietnamese allies as corrupt and dodgy criminals. Mr. Biden may have gone with a common mood among his constituents at the time, I could not say yea or nay, and do not consider the matter important enough to bother looking into.

It is hardly true welcoming immigrants has always been a hallmark of the Democratic Party. Working people, especially union members, often view immigrants, whether illegal or legal, as distorting the labor market and depressing wages, and even causing some unemployment in the skilled trades. One can, of course, find economists to argue either end of the question, and so people tend to stick to the views they have derived from their own logic and experience and prejudices.

My own views are that we ought to be welcoming, and that immigrants contribute a great deal, economically as well as socially, to our country. But I do not care how Mr. Biden may or may not have voted back in the seventies on resettlement of Vietnamese refugees. It would be ludicrous to suppose a vote against admittance so long ago would define his actions today. I could cite plenty of much more recent votes by Mr. Biden I could take as grounds to oppose him, and which could even serve me for grounds not to trust the man on some weighty matters. I do not care about these things, either. I support the candidate of the Democratic Party, and am well aware of the consequences to our country of failure in this election.


"Defeat of a hated enemy is something to be for."

Celerity

(46,154 posts)
14. I just want Trump out, and Biden is the candidate we have to roll with now. I keep it simple, lol.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 03:28 AM
Apr 2020

cheers Sir

herding cats

(19,585 posts)
12. It's never ok to call out another DUer like this.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 03:16 AM
Apr 2020

If you didn't get resolution in whatever thread this began in, making an OP and calling them out by name is extremely bad form. Not to mention explicitly against the rules here.

This should be deleted.

Light63

(233 posts)
16. Herding cats
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 03:41 AM
Apr 2020

This was his post to me when I was just inquiring about Biden’s vote back in 1975:


9:50 PM
Star Member jberryhill
7. Do you have any intention of supporting this with any facts whatsoever?
Hey, anonymous internet person, go get some facts.

Unfuckingreal

Crawl back in your hole.

herding cats

(19,585 posts)
17. You're not making it any better here.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 03:43 AM
Apr 2020

Alert, use the system. Don't get ugly and then double down. Ugh.

The rest of us really don't want to be witness to your disagreement with one other DUer. Thus the rule.

herding cats

(19,585 posts)
18. Delete your post and put your personal drama to bed, please?
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 03:52 AM
Apr 2020

I'm hiding your post because whatever you were arguing about was when I was still in diapers. It doesn't seem relevant since I deeply hope we've all grownup since then. I for one am now potty trained at least.

Peace to you.

Rhiannon12866

(217,130 posts)
19. herding cats is correct
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 04:39 AM
Apr 2020

I have always advocated alerting on personal attacks rather than responding to them because more likely than not it will backfire.

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