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Tue Apr 7, 2020, 04:36 PM

George Takei tWEET TODAY ..... SAD HE IS CORRECT.

George Takei @GeorgeTakei (Mr Sulu on STAR TREK)

Covid-19 comparison:
U.S. deaths 12,400
South Korea deaths: 192

Both had first positive case Jan 21. They had higher population density and a supercluster of cases.
But they got lots of testing and tracking going right away.

Trump called it a hoax. This is the result.
This is the DU member formerly known as trueblue2007.

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Reply George Takei tWEET TODAY ..... SAD HE IS CORRECT. (Original post)
trueblue2007 Apr 2020 OP
FM123 Apr 2020 #1
cwydro Apr 2020 #2
central scrutinizer Apr 2020 #3
LiberalArkie Apr 2020 #13
smirkymonkey Apr 2020 #4
Meowmee Apr 2020 #5
renate Apr 2020 #6
riversedge Apr 2020 #7
Midnightwalk Apr 2020 #8
nsd Apr 2020 #10
Lucky Luciano Apr 2020 #15
Midnightwalk Apr 2020 #17
Lucky Luciano Apr 2020 #19
CaptYossarian Apr 2020 #9
DanieRains Apr 2020 #11
orleans Apr 2020 #12
warmfeet Apr 2020 #14
Thekaspervote Apr 2020 #16
Sarg Apr 2020 #18
Blue_true Apr 2020 #21
Behind the Aegis Apr 2020 #20
BootinUp Apr 2020 #22
klook Apr 2020 #37
Demovictory9 Apr 2020 #23
Cha Apr 2020 #24
hangaleft Apr 2020 #25
Cha Apr 2020 #29
dalton99a Apr 2020 #26
IllinoisBirdWatcher Apr 2020 #28
Steelrolled Apr 2020 #38
IllinoisBirdWatcher Apr 2020 #27
SilasSouleII Apr 2020 #30
kag Apr 2020 #31
Hermit-The-Prog Apr 2020 #32
crono Apr 2020 #33
DetlefK Apr 2020 #34
Nululu Apr 2020 #35
olegramps Apr 2020 #36

Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Tue Apr 7, 2020, 04:55 PM

1. Yep!

And their capital city of Seoul has even more people than New York City - just think of those poor souls in NYC that we could have saved earlier and those that struggle to stay alive every single day still...

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Tue Apr 7, 2020, 04:58 PM

2. Rec

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Tue Apr 7, 2020, 05:16 PM

3. Because they did so much testing

Their number of dead is guaranteed more accurate than our number (“I like the number where it is “)

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Response to central scrutinizer (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 7, 2020, 05:59 PM

13. What number?

Arkansas dept of health has us at 18 deaths

The Johns Hopkins site says 10

And the CDC says 0 died from Covid but a lot died in Arkansas from pneumonia

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Tue Apr 7, 2020, 05:24 PM

4. K&R

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Tue Apr 7, 2020, 05:28 PM

5. Truth

None of this should be happening

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Tue Apr 7, 2020, 05:28 PM

6. this is really incredible and absolutely heartbreaking

So much unnecessary anxiety, isolation, economic suffering, and death because of a catastrophic and narcissistically neglectful lack of leadership.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Tue Apr 7, 2020, 05:33 PM

7. remarkable.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Tue Apr 7, 2020, 05:38 PM

8. Just to provide scale

S korea has 51M people

Us has 331M

About a 6x difference. S. Korea’s death rate would scale to about 1200.

We’re 10x higher than that.

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Response to Midnightwalk (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 7, 2020, 05:40 PM

10. +1 You have to scale by population. (nt)

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Response to Midnightwalk (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 7, 2020, 06:49 PM

15. Not sure about that.

You can also consider scaling NYC vs Seoul where cases were concentrated. Then it’s an insanely bad look here.

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Response to Lucky Luciano (Reply #15)

Tue Apr 7, 2020, 06:57 PM

17. That'd be an interesting comparison

10x worse for whole country is bad enough.

I complain when units get mixed or countries comparisons aren’t scaled and showed some arithmetic. I always hope I don’t mess up doing that.

Some of the websites show cases and deaths per million

Morbid but I’ve always liked numbers.

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Response to Midnightwalk (Reply #17)

Tue Apr 7, 2020, 07:14 PM

19. I feel you, but not sure if tge comparison by country is correct.

Comparisons by city might be more correct.

Also comparison by population of infected locales and density seems even more sensible (Takei alluded to the density issue). Obviously a Manhattan infection is more worrisome than a Los Angeles infection with the density and all the public transportation versus travel by car.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Tue Apr 7, 2020, 05:39 PM

9. If we could only be beamed out of here.

BTW, Mr. Takei is also a great Econ professor. Ask Tom Hanks.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Tue Apr 7, 2020, 05:52 PM

11. Trump's Fault Never Forget To Say It

Whenever you talk about this nightmare.

It's all Trump's fault.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Tue Apr 7, 2020, 05:53 PM

12. this




and below that he writes:



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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Tue Apr 7, 2020, 06:05 PM

14. Campaign ad.

Competence beats incompetence every time.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Tue Apr 7, 2020, 06:55 PM

16. November 3rd MUST be our revenge! 210 days

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Tue Apr 7, 2020, 07:13 PM

18. South Korea has a logical political system in theory AND practice.

 

America's is only in theory.

South Korea's entire political structure consists of a total of 18 entities (the central government, eight provinces, one special self-governing province, six self-governing cities, one special city, and one metropolitan autonomous city.

America's political structure consists of 50 states (most of them run by dysfunctional Republicans), zillions of counties (ditto), and a huge central government infrastructure designed 230 years ago.

Organizing 18 political entities during a crisis is relatively easy.

Organizing America's thousands of political entities even in a non-crisis is impossible. The system is not designed for such a thing.

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Response to Sarg (Reply #18)

Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:04 PM

21. In our system, it has been long expected that the Federal

government would respond to all external threats. There was no need to "organize". SARS-COV-19 was at one point a 100% external threat, instead of taking charge, the president was in denial, in a world of conspiracy theories.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Tue Apr 7, 2020, 07:39 PM

20. And there, folks, is a politcal ad for November!

Don't let this asshole slide! Voters have a short damn memory! Like goldfish.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Tue Apr 7, 2020, 09:07 PM

22. Trump wants to be the best dictator.

He wants to be in the record books.

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Response to BootinUp (Reply #22)

Wed Apr 8, 2020, 02:28 PM

37. I am paranoid and cynical enough to think this scenario is desirable for him.


All those stuck-up society people in New York who laughed at me -- who's laughing now?


Millions of dead Democrats in big blue cities just before the election. This is a bad thing how?

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Tue Apr 7, 2020, 09:07 PM

23. k&r

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Tue Apr 7, 2020, 09:10 PM

24. It most certainly is the Result of trump calling it a Democratic HOAX

for 70 days while he held rallies and played golf.

Thank you for the reminder, George Takei and trueblue2007

Retweeted!

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Response to Cha (Reply #24)

Tue Apr 7, 2020, 09:20 PM

25. Sorry, I have to correct you

 

Trump never called it a Democratic hoax. He called it a “Democrat hoax”.

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Response to hangaleft (Reply #25)

Tue Apr 7, 2020, 09:26 PM

29. Oh right.. trump.. ever the

scaredy troll that he's going to associate the Democratic Party with Democracy!

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Tue Apr 7, 2020, 09:23 PM

26. Kick

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #26)

Tue Apr 7, 2020, 09:26 PM

28. ...and still no national policy. n/t

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #26)

Wed Apr 8, 2020, 02:38 PM

38. That is a very misleading graph

as it is not per-capita.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2020, 01:29 AM

30. Rec.

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2020, 01:46 AM

31. I wonder if S. Korea would mind very much...

invading us. They would be greeted as liberators.
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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2020, 01:57 AM

32. Obituary x 12,400 : "Murdered by a Grotesque Orange Pustule"

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2020, 06:20 AM

33. "excellent mr sulu

thanks to you and bone's quick thinking we may have just saved a few lives. its a shame we were unable to share with them the cure" "but captain the prime..." "i know mr spock i know." "mr sulu set heading for the nearest star-base, engage"

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2020, 09:28 AM

34. Adjusted to per capita, the US has 10.16 times as many coronavirus-deaths as South-Korea.

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Response to DetlefK (Reply #34)

Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:22 PM

35. May be many more deaths than reported

New York is seeing 10x the normal number of at home deaths. Instead of 20/day it's 200/day. Only those with a prexisting positive covid19 test are counted. The rest may have it listed as "possible".

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Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:52 PM

36. Nero fiddled as Rome burned, Trump golfed as we sufficated.

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