FACT: "Obama administration tested one million people for H1N1 ***in the first month***"

[uponit7771]

https://theweek.com/speedreads/903080/trumps-tweets-show-dramatic-9day-shift-toward-actually-taking-coronavirus-seriously

Ronald Klain, the former chief of staff to then-Vice President Joe Biden, tweeted that "the Obama administration tested one million people for H1N1 in the first month after the first U.S. diagnosed case," a number that seems within reason seeing as Quidel, a maker of such rapid flu tests, produced some 8 million during the flu season prior to the 2009 outbreak.

Right now FAUX News is lying about "the system" being the cause of the lack of testing... that's a f ckin lie !!!

That's the lie Doctor Fauci told to congress which is now being used to cover Trumps fuck ups !!!

Obama admin got it done, the Trump admin can't get it done because they don't want his numbers going up or some crap.

America is fighting a powerful enemy and its president

Link to German manufacture being able to produce and distribute 1.5 million test in one month

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213119724#post5

[Kilgore]

1. Will check it out

Thanks

[uponit7771]

2. +1, Trump cut the woman off who mentioned Obama had one million tested and started his BS lies.

Right now on FAUX News they're saying just act like you're the one that is sick and leaving out the fact that our economy is being stopped whole because of Red Don's unwillingness to get unrestricted testing to Americans.

[Bookworm2586]

12. What is unrestricted testing?

Serious question. Do you think anyone who wants a test should get one? So, if an asymptomatic person wants a test, waits in the line at Wal-Mart (or wherever,) gets the test, is negative, but on the way home stops for toilet paper (or whatever,) and buys a package that has been coughed on two minutes earlier by an infected person, suddenly they've been exposed and could test positive in a week or so.

So--what's the point of "unrestricted testing?" It makes much more sense to test people showing symptoms, or who know for a fact that they have been exposed.

(Maybe I'm misunderstanding your point. If so, my apologies.)

[uponit7771]

13. Unrestricted testing is anyone who wants one can get one. If we don't get to that level all we're

... doing is spread a disease around among ourselves.

We should just do what Hubie China did to the letter, they're back at it in 3 weeks.

[Bookworm2586]

14. Okay. How often?

Every week? Once a month? Since exposure and infection can take place at any time, I really don't know what good repeated testing of healthy, asymptomatic people would do.

I haven't heart of Hubie China, but will look it up.

[uponit7771]

18. Twice ... test, isolate, hunker down, clean ... after 3 weeks test again. We can do it if we were

... mobolized with good leadership, we're not.

crap

[Bookworm2586]

15. I just looked up Hubei

They have been declared clear of cases. (IF you believe any reports coming out of a totalitarian country that covered this thing up for weeks following the outbreak.) They also have a population in Hubei of some 60,000,000, compared to 327,000,000.

It would be much more difficult to test every one of our 327,000,000 as often as they would like.

[uponit7771]

17. Some German mom and pop produced 1.5 million test in less than a month and distrubted them.

We have a better manufacturing base than a mom and pop in Germany and can produce the number needed if we started a couple of months ago.

If we start right now we can get 10s of millions made and that's way better than were we're at right now

We have the resources in the US we just don't have the leadership right now.

Trump makes humans sad

[Bookworm2586]

19. Link to the mom & pop?

I'd like to read about that.

[uponit7771]

20. Link inside, I found out this is just one manufacture in German ... Trump is full of shit & the M$M

... is too for letting him get away with the not enough test shit

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213119724#post5

[Bookworm2586]

21. Thanks! n/t

[Amishman]

3. To be fair, H1N1 was a strain of influenza, so ramping up testing was much easier

That being said our government absolutely should have gotten off our collective asses sooner to create testing plans and capacity. Its just the H1N1 comparison isn't a good one.

[uponit7771]

4. It is a fair comparison, the 2009 h1n1 was also novel just like this version of coronavirus (link)

https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=104297

Novel H1N1 influenza: A virus responsible for a flu pandemic in 2009 that was originally referred to as "swine flu" because many of the genes in this new virus were very similar to influenza viruses that normally occur in pigs in North America. However, the virus is actually a novel influenza A (H1N1) virus

Also, I posted last night some mom and pop German first had made and distributed 1.5 million test in less than a month

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213119724

Trump had time, there's no reason why we couldn't have those test right now other than REALLY

[MFGsunny]

6. + 1000 n/t

[uponit7771]

5. Kick for Notice

[enough]

7. K&R ! NT

[NewJeffCT]

8. I'm not seeing the Blockquoted paragraph at the link

Last edited Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:11 PM - Edit history (1)

is that from another article?

[uponit7771]

9. Yes, the block test is from the link

[ismnotwasm]

10. K&R

[Igel]

11. The Chinese announced in the last day or two

the fast really rapid test kit.

All the others, no matter how fast they were produced, required a lab, trained staff, and time. Not a tube, which is where flu fast-test kit tech is.

It means that if you want to test a million people, you need several million hours in dedicated labs with trained staff, not several million 5-minute intervals with nurse aides in doctors' offices actually doing the testing.

That's true for the fastest drive-through testing places. They take the sample and chuck the sample into the test kit. Those are easy to produce if they're heading off to a lab that's equipped for it. What's harder is when the test kits are the essential reagents and 500 swab/vial units and you need the lab to have standard components and some equipment.

Hear half the story, think you know the entire story, and the conclusions never go right.

Fear is also a bad motivator for reason. "Fear is the mind killer" isn't just a pithy sci-fi slogan turned religion.

Note, also, that if we tested 1 million suspected cases of COVID-19 by the end of February we'd have missed the really contagious people. We'd have needed to test 300 million people by the end of the first week of February, and then repeat it every week for the next 3-4 weeks. That's 3 orders of magnitude better than our knight exemplar pulled off. Pissing into a hurricane isn't even noticeable, except to the urinator involved (and those standing next to him).

[smirkymonkey]

16. K&R

[uponit7771]

22. Kick for Notice

[uponit7771]

23. Kick for Notice

[uponit7771]

24. Worth kicking