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Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:38 AM

"What they said on that phone call very clearly was cease and desist..Stop Testing"

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‘It’s Just Everywhere Already’: How Delays in Testing Set Back the U.S. Coronavirus Response

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/10/us/coronavirus-testing-delays.html
The state laboratory, finally able to begin testing, confirmed the result the next morning. The teenager, who had recovered from his illness, was located and informed just after he entered his school building. He was sent home and the school was later closed as a precaution.

Later that day, the investigators and Seattle health officials gathered with representatives of the C.D.C. and the F.D.A. to discuss what happened. The message from the federal government was blunt. “What they said on that phone call very clearly was cease and desist to Helen Chu,” Dr. Lindquist remembered. “Stop testing.”

A silent spread
Still, the troubling finding reshaped how officials understood the outbreak. Seattle Flu Study scientists quickly sequenced the genome of the virus, finding a genetic variation also present in the country’s first coronavirus case.

The implications were unnerving. There was a good chance that the virus had been circulating silently in the community for around six weeks, infecting potentially hundreds of people.


I remember that article but don’t remember this part of it being discussed in the media

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Reply "What they said on that phone call very clearly was cease and desist..Stop Testing" (Original post)
Roland99 Mar 17 OP
Dennis Donovan Mar 17 #1
gibraltar72 Mar 17 #16
Dennis Donovan Mar 17 #18
gibraltar72 Mar 17 #19
Dennis Donovan Mar 17 #30
Roland99 Mar 17 #28
Baitball Blogger Mar 17 #2
uponit7771 Mar 17 #5
robbedvoter Mar 17 #6
liberalla Mar 17 #7
JudyM Mar 18 #32
Baitball Blogger Mar 17 #8
uponit7771 Mar 17 #3
Baitball Blogger Mar 17 #9
uponit7771 Mar 17 #12
Baitball Blogger Mar 17 #13
Laura PourMeADrink Mar 17 #21
uponit7771 Mar 17 #22
Roland99 Mar 17 #31
uponit7771 Mar 18 #34
JudyM Mar 18 #33
cstanleytech Mar 17 #14
enough Mar 17 #4
Blues Heron Mar 17 #10
KewlKat Mar 17 #11
Roland99 Mar 17 #29
58Sunliner Mar 17 #15
Laelth Mar 17 #23
58Sunliner Mar 17 #26
Laura PourMeADrink Mar 17 #24
58Sunliner Mar 17 #25
AllaN01Bear Mar 17 #17
yaesu Mar 17 #20
Bluethroughu Mar 17 #27

Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:56 AM

1. I posted it last Tue-It was the thing that made me say to myself, "get what you need NOW! It's here"

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213071285

In late January, the first confirmed American case of the coronavirus had landed in her area. Critical questions needed answers: Had the man infected anyone else? Was the deadly virus already lurking in other communities and spreading?

As luck would have it, Dr. Chu had a way to monitor the region. For months, as part of a research project into the flu, she and a team of researchers had been collecting nasal swabs from residents experiencing symptoms throughout the Puget Sound region.

To repurpose the tests for monitoring the coronavirus, they would need the support of state and federal officials. But nearly everywhere Dr. Chu turned, officials repeatedly rejected the idea, interviews and emails show, even as weeks crawled by and outbreaks emerged in countries outside of China, where the infection began.

By Feb. 25, Dr. Chu and her colleagues could not bear to wait any longer. They began performing coronavirus tests, without government approval.

What came back confirmed their worst fear. They quickly had a positive test from a local teenager with no recent travel history. The coronavirus had already established itself on American soil without anybody realizing it.

“It must have been here this entire time,” Dr. Chu recalled thinking with dread. “It’s just everywhere already.”


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I went out that day and got 2-3 weeks of supplies and have been self-isolating ever since. My goal is to NOT get sick during round 1 (the "tsunami" Cuomo predicts will hit hospitals in NYS) where I'd have the least likely favorable outcome (they might have to let me die in favor of saving someone else).

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:11 AM

16. What you said.

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Response to gibraltar72 (Reply #16)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:23 AM

18. I just spoke to my 70yo neighbor via text. She worked yesterday and now has a sore throat

...and her 40-ish son is in respiratory distress at home.

I hope last Wed wasn't too late for me. (day 6 of my self-quarantine and no symptoms so far).

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Reply #18)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:27 AM

19. day 5.

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Response to gibraltar72 (Reply #19)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 01:31 PM

30. Stay safe!

And stay inside (if possible).

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:14 AM

28. Yeah. I'd seen that. But seems no or little attention was paid to that phone call

Downright scary shit

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:00 AM

2. This is consistent with what we heard about Trump trying to reduce the

numbers to improve his election chances.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:43 AM

5. +1

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:47 AM

6. and also. with the Kushners cornering the death market - Josh (Jared's bro)

owns Oscar - company that by sheer luck got the contract for OUR TESTS - not the damn foreign one which were cheap and ready

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Response to robbedvoter (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:59 AM

7. This needs to receive more coverage. Much MORE coverage!

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Response to liberalla (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 12:06 AM

32. Yes!!

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Response to robbedvoter (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:00 AM

8. We need to have a special judgment process for this kind of exploitation.

I think Donald Rumsfeld did this with anthrax. Look at what I found with a google search to provide a link to what I'm talking about:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3745357

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:30 AM

3. Yep, on purpose bluer areas get greatest infections and can't vote ... Red Don wins election.

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:02 AM

9. Well, Florida is an exception.

A lot of old Republicans participating in risky behavior with their social events in the Villages. If they don't alter their behavior, it's going to turn into a Stephen King story.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:07 AM

12. +1, true ... I'm thinking though they know they can't keep Florida after the inmates are allowed...

... to vote.

I don't know, I posted an OP that the lack of unfettered nationwide scaled up testing is on purpose and Red Don doesn't care about anyone else but themselves.

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #12)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:20 AM

13. I just learned that something funky may be going on in Florida.

The health department is not including the cases from the snowbirds, so each county is under-reported. In Seminole County they claimed that their are 4 to 6 cases, but someone on the Florida Forum said that there are 18 more cases they are not attributing to the county because the people live out of state. Well...are they mingling with Floridians?

On Saturday, when the cases reported in Seminole County was down to one man who had traveled on the Nile, I thought it was safe to attend a social event. Had I known that there were 18 cases in my county I wouldn't have gone to the event. It's just common sense that those people were contagious before they developed symptoms. So why didn't they tell us once they knew?

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #13)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:45 AM

21. Totally agree. Heard from an impeccable source

that our local hospital in TX is treating a coronavirus patient and it's not reported anywhere, not even in news. Had I known that, I wouldn't have gone to the store when we did with so many people.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #13)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:45 AM

22. +1 there's no doubt something funky goin on

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #13)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 01:58 PM

31. We'll probably never know

4 students at Univ of Florida tested positive according to Gov Ron

No idea if they got it there or after leaving campus

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #13)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 12:09 AM

34. +1, looks like Red State govs are covering for Putin's escort

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #12)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 12:08 AM

33. Like Reagan looking the other way while the AIDS epidemic was slaying so many.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:42 AM

14. "it's going to turn into a Stephen King story." Kings virus killed almost everyone this would not

even come close to that level.
That's not to say that such a virus might one day happen but it is unlikely to happen any time soon unless its a man made one.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:42 AM

4. Criminal. NT

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:03 AM

10. That's the murder charge right there.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:05 AM

11. Joshua Kushner, Jared's Brother, Is Launching an Online 'Testing Center Locator,' Risk Assessment

and Physician Consultations

The Kushner family is trying to cash in on the pandemic that could kill millions of us.

Oscar Health, the health insurance company co-founded by Jared Kushner’s younger brother, announced Friday it has launched a testing center locator for COVID-19. It shows where more than 100 centers are in the United States. The company is also offering a risk assessment survey and means to talk to a doctor online.

The coronavirus is predicted to kill anywhere from almost 500,000 Americans in the next year to more than 5 million. At least 62 people in the United States had died by Sunday; 3,130 have tested positive.

Team Trump announced Saturday that Trump tested negative for the virus despite presiding over a coronavirus hot zone at Mar-a-Lago. Testing efforts have been marked by delays and dysfunction. Just a few thousand people were tested during the weeks the virus spread across our country.

DC Report is the SOURCE

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Response to KewlKat (Reply #11)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:17 AM

29. Ayup. And Kushner was in with data mining before the election

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:42 AM

15. So this was caught in January-when? When was it sampled? It leaves a whole lot of questions.

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Did we have it first? Because I hate to be paranoid but, the way this has been handled it criminal and intentional. And if that ugly disgusting fuck does not get it, it is a gross anomaly given the spread of this virus. I would begin to believe he had a vaccine. All of the samples need testing, and a timeline. I don't understand why they didn't go against the CDC earlier and get public about the CDC trying to suppress info about a possible virulent virus. We still need more info.

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Response to 58Sunliner (Reply #15)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:49 AM

23. It was first discovered in China in Nov. 2019. n/t

-Laelth

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Response to Laelth (Reply #23)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:19 AM

26. Which makes one wonder how long it was circulating there.

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Response to 58Sunliner (Reply #15)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:03 AM

24. Doesn't say...but that virus could have been circulating for

Six weeks which would have been early December??

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #24)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:13 AM

25. They have made it hard to ascertain. I'd like more info from the samples they have untested.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:21 AM

17. ny times wont let me read the story because of my adblocker .

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:33 AM

20. All the precautions I take today are no different than what I have been doing for years

I always sanitize after using any public building, I hate crowds so that is another reason I haven't been sick in years, knock on wood.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:30 AM

27. It is time the REAL Patriots arrest...

The Current administration, they are Not following their oath to "promote the general welfare" of the people.

I don't care if it's the FBI, Military, or local police.

Enough of this third world $h't!

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