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sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 06:29 PM Mar 2020

Two Women Fell Sick From the Coronavirus. One Survived.

By Sui-Lee Wee and Vivian WangMarch 13, 2020


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The young mothers didn’t tell their children they had the coronavirus. Mama was working hard, they said, to save sick people.

Instead, Deng Danjing and Xia Sisi were fighting for their lives in the same hospitals where they worked, weak from fever and gasping for breath. Within a matter of weeks, they had gone from healthy medical professionals on the front lines of the epidemic in Wuhan, China, to coronavirus patients in critical condition.

The world is still struggling to fully understand the new virus, its symptoms, spread and sources. For some, it can feel like a common cold. For others, it is a deadly infection that ravages the lungs and pushes the immune system into overdrive, destroying even healthy cells. The difference between life and death can depend on the patient’s health, age and access to care — although not always.

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Both women rushed to see doctors. Chest scans showed damage to their lungs, a tell-tale sign of the coronavirus that is present in at least 85 percent of patients, according to one study.


In particular, Ms. Deng’s CT scan showed what the doctor called ground-glass opacities on her lower right lung — hazy spots that indicated fluid or inflammation around her airways.



So much more and it is heartbreaking: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/13/world/asia/coronavirus-death-life.html?ref=oembed

I had tears running down my face reading this. These courageous women fought to help those sick and dying. See, this is another lie we are being told, only over 60 or those with contributing factors should be concerned. Fact is both women were 29 years old.

I am sick to death of the lies we hear from the WH every few hours. They come out and hold a rah rah campaign, slap each other on the back and kiss donnie's ass sayin' what a fantastic job he is doing. He withheld the dire threat well known to him since January. He withheld testing kits and continues to do so. The Commander in chief wanted to win an election and leave a million or more Americans dead to do so.

I can't even.

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Two Women Fell Sick From the Coronavirus. One Survived. (Original Post) sheshe2 Mar 2020 OP
K&R for exposure Docreed2003 Mar 2020 #1
K & R 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 2020 #2
Risks - Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #3
Read tonight... sheshe2 Mar 2020 #19
I saw. Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #20
I sure hope so. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #21
Between this and the obits in the Italian newspaper I'm a wreck. Crying and sooooo angry! Native Mar 2020 #4
Trump has made or fate so much worse. But this is overdue and the pandemic is no ones fault. GulfCoast66 Mar 2020 #6
Thanks, Native. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #7
K&R gademocrat7 Mar 2020 #5
I think trDump's intentions were to keep this undercover..... magicarpet Mar 2020 #8
Well, according to NPR's reporting that's exactly what happened. He nixxed testing back in January.. Native Mar 2020 #9
Tests developed in Germany were offered and refused Warpy Mar 2020 #17
Yes. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #18
Kicking for visibility. Niagara Mar 2020 #10
Hey, Niagra. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #12
"Will they ever see what a dangerous psychopath he is?" Different Drummer Mar 2020 #16
This virus can trigger a "cytokine storm" that will kill some people with healthy immune systems. Laelth Mar 2020 #11
Well, that is terrifying and fascinating. nt ramen Mar 2020 #13
Never thought I would be "glad" that my own immune system is somewhat compromised. Laelth Mar 2020 #15
As soon as I saw their pictures.... Brainfodder Mar 2020 #14
Thank you, sheshe2 Cetacea Mar 2020 #22
Kicking. The young and healthy are not as safe as they are being made to feel. Maru Kitteh Mar 2020 #23

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
1. K&R for exposure
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 06:33 PM
Mar 2020

Infuriating just begins to describe my emotions regarding Trump's priorities and management of this tragedy.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
3. Risks -
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 06:38 PM
Mar 2020
See, this is another lie we are being told, only over 60 or those with contributing factors should be concerned. Fact is both women were 29 years old.


The risk is double that of the flu starting at age 10. It goes up from there.

Native

(5,942 posts)
4. Between this and the obits in the Italian newspaper I'm a wreck. Crying and sooooo angry!
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 06:46 PM
Mar 2020

Thanks for posting this sheshe. There are too many people who aren't taking this seriously. I typically hate it when the media glorifies disasters with pic after pic that people salivate over (rubberneckers piss me off too), but there are some things people need to be reminded of. I hope that our collective better nature is going to win out, but with so much happening with such rapid regularity - shooting after mass shooting, natural disaster after disaster - I'm worried people have shut themselves off from feeling anything. I'm worried that people will give up.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
6. Trump has made or fate so much worse. But this is overdue and the pandemic is no ones fault.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 07:06 PM
Mar 2020

Our parents were lucky to never have one. Depending on your age your grandparents as well.

We are the unlucky generation. No matter what thousands were going to die. With a real leader our losses would be way less.

But we as a people will make it thru. We always do. Unfortunately some of us won’t.

After my wife and I read The Great Influenza a decade or so ago I remember telling her I hope it does not happen in our lifetimes. Because that book made it obvious we are not even close to eliminating pandemics. Looks like we drew the short straw.

And in the big picture my grandparents and every generation before always knew multiple people who died young from viral or bacterial sickness. We see it as un-natural which is a sign of progress. After the 1918 pandemic there was huge support for increased research into disease which led to the discovery of viruses and eventually the discovery of DNA. If it gets as bad as I fear no politician will ever survive by being against investment in public health and strengthening our healthcare system.

We will be fine.

Obviously, I am an optimist!

sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
7. Thanks, Native.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 07:20 PM
Mar 2020

I for one will only give up when I am dead. I must admit that I have hope that when I am, I can come back and haunt them to their graves.

magicarpet

(14,145 posts)
8. I think trDump's intentions were to keep this undercover.....
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 07:26 PM
Mar 2020

.... hope it would not effect the stock market/economy,... then come the warmer weather in the Spring the whole concern would magically disappear and we could all just go to the beach and frolic on the sand.

This way trDump would keep people in the blind, not worry about people going into a state of panic.

But most important of all if the reality of this health concern was kept a secret,... minimal damage would be experienced for his 2020 re-election campaign.

Hope for the best. Fabricate and lie to smother reality. If the worse should materialize blame Obama. Then convince people it could have been so much more terribly worse if it had not been for your superb leadership and excellent executive administration to guide us out of this epidemic of horrendous proportions.

Native

(5,942 posts)
9. Well, according to NPR's reporting that's exactly what happened. He nixxed testing back in January..
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 07:38 PM
Mar 2020

because he worried increased numbers of infected would hurt his reelection chances.

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
17. Tests developed in Germany were offered and refused
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 08:57 PM
Mar 2020

We weren't worth protecting. He has been exposed a couple of times that we know about and the only thing that makes him think there might be something to this is the hit his stocks have taken. He is a malignant narcissist. He will not self quarantine and he is unlikely to forgo his stupid pep rallies.

Do I think this could have been contained? Unless the test picked up coronavirus shed by people who are not yet ill, probably not. Italy wasn't as stupid as our government was and it's a disaster there.

Still, prompt action including emergency sick leave, large scale emergency testing, and PSAs about how to protect oneself could have done a lot to mitigate the crisis. Naturally, the administration and McConnell could be counted upon to do nothing.

Niagara

(7,605 posts)
10. Kicking for visibility.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 07:39 PM
Mar 2020

He knows he's been lying for years. We know he's been lying for years. His followers haven't got a clue that he doesn't give a damn about their well-being or their families well-being.. Will they ever see what a dangerous psychopath he is?


I know you keep reminding me of my signature line, but I have no idea if we will recover from this absolute horror. I'm right there with you, I can't even.


Sending you hugs for strength.



sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
12. Hey, Niagra.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 07:55 PM
Mar 2020


Your sig line says it all.

When times get tough, we don't give up. We get up. ~Barack Obama~


I hope we can make that true. There will be a few less of us...yet we can make it through the darkness and stand for those that cannot. I hope to be there to.

Thank you.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
11. This virus can trigger a "cytokine storm" that will kill some people with healthy immune systems.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 07:44 PM
Mar 2020

While it's true that the percentage of elderly and compromised people who may not survive COVID-19 will be higher, the raw number of fatalities will be higher among those with very healthy immune systems that can be triggered by a self-destructive cytokine storm. At least, this appears to have been the case with the 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic, and it's the most likely cause of death in the case of the woman mentioned in the OP.

It is believed that cytokine storms were responsible for the disproportionate number of healthy young adult deaths during the 1918 influenza pandemic, which killed 50 to 100 million people.[15] In this case, a healthy immune system may have been a liability rather than an asset. Preliminary research results from Hong Kong also indicated this as the probable reason for many deaths during the SARS epidemic in 2003.[16] Human deaths from the bird flu H5N1 usually involve cytokine storms as well.[17] Cytokine storm has also been implicated in hantavirus pulmonary syndrome.[18]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytokine_release_syndrome


-Laelth

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
15. Never thought I would be "glad" that my own immune system is somewhat compromised.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 08:07 PM
Mar 2020

But, there you have it.



-Laelth

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
14. As soon as I saw their pictures....
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 08:07 PM
Mar 2020

YIKES, 29! That was the year I felt my life really began!

Very sad.

K&R

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