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herding cats

(19,577 posts)
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 11:32 PM Mar 2020

Ultimately, what are the elected GOP more fearful of right now, Trump or COVID-19?

Both hold massive power over their re-election, and either could ultimately become the campaign issue which means their demise.


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Trump
8 (100%)
COVID-19
0 (0%)
COVID-19 because of Trump's mishandling.
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herding cats

(19,577 posts)
3. Poll seems to be skewing toward Trump.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 11:40 PM
Mar 2020

Apparently the GOP are viewed as a bunch of sycophants afraid to rock the boat, here on DU. I can't disagree.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
4. Voted Trump omg! On edit! On the poll! Shit. I got to read what I post better!
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 11:40 PM
Mar 2020

But if his polling drops below 35 their support will go And go quick.

I know 2 types of trump supporters. The great majority are true believers many of the inspired by jesus.

But a not insignificant number are well off people who admit they don’t like him but he is good for them personally. If they have to bury their mother and their investments are shot they Will turn on him.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
8. I don't have the time to start!
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 11:47 PM
Mar 2020

But every bible thumper I know thinks god sent trump. Don’t ask me. I don’t believe any of it. Just telling what I see.

herding cats

(19,577 posts)
7. It's their mother, grandmothers and their investments Im thinking might have sway here.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 11:44 PM
Mar 2020

Time will tell, but I do agree with your reply. Until it's real for them, or their constituents for the sake of my poll, they're all in.

Jarqui

(10,169 posts)
6. They don't care about Trump
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 11:43 PM
Mar 2020

He's been a means to retain power.

GOP interest always has been and always will be : retaining power

They'd throw Trump under a bus in a heartbeat if it would help them retain power.
Because Trump is so corrupt, that is helping them retain power now.

herding cats

(19,577 posts)
9. I don't disagree.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 11:51 PM
Mar 2020

But, this begs the question: What if their constituents are adversely impacted by the COVID-19 which was previously sold as a hoax (and broadly accepted as such among Trump's base) impacts their constituents lives directly?

It's going to happen. It's not an 'if' situation anymore. Be it a loss of mobilizations, hospitalization, loss of income, loss of investments profits or (forbid) loss of life. It will impact them. It will in the end impact us all in some adverse way.

Jarqui

(10,169 posts)
11. They'll assess it. If their best move is to gas Trump to retain power,
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 11:59 PM
Mar 2020

they'll blame the virus response on him and throw him under the bus to cut their losses.

herding cats

(19,577 posts)
13. Damn, DUers! No one thinks COVID-19 will force their hands?
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 12:38 AM
Mar 2020

Wow. We're totally screwed if you folks are correct.

kimbutgar

(21,841 posts)
14. That jackass Kennedy from Louisiana is saying mf45 is on it!
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 12:54 AM
Mar 2020

I just heard it on Fox.

Normally I don’t watch Fox but I am in a hotel room in Anaheim after being at Disneyland today which was totally crowded! No one seemed concerned about the virus. We washed our hands constantly and were careful touching surfaces.

herding cats

(19,577 posts)
15. Wait until he has local transmission in his state. Which is coming.
Thu Mar 12, 2020, 01:15 AM
Mar 2020

Here in Texas I've gotten radio silence from my rep and Senators since it went into community transmission.

It's a game changer for them apparently? Which is what will be prominent in this poll.

Also, as an aside: self isolation is on you. Any random elderly person we younger people have contact with is on us. Not to mention it's not as if it isn't leaving a footprint on our demographic.

YOUNG AND UNAFRAID OF THE CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC? GOOD FOR YOU. NOW STOP KILLING PEOPLE | OPINION

OPINION
CORONAVIRUS
PANDEMICS
EPIDEMICS
I'm a doctor in a major hospital in Western Europe. Watching you Americans (and you, Brits) in these still-early days of the coronavirus pandemic is like watching a familiar horror movie, where the protagonists, yet again, split into pairs or decide to take a tour of a dark basement.

The real-life versions of this behavior are pretending this is just a flu; keeping schools open; following through with your holiday travel plans, and going into the office daily. This is what we did in Italy. We were so complacent that even when people with coronavirus symptoms started turning up, we wrote each off as a nasty case of the flu. We kept the economy going, pointed fingers at China and urged tourists to keep traveling. And the majority of us told ourselves and each other: this isn't so bad. We're young, we're fit, we'll be fine even if we catch it.

Fast-forward two months, and we are drowning. Statistically speaking—judging by the curve in China—we are not even at the peak yet, but our fatality rate is at over 6 percent, double the known global average.

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And if your government is hesitating, these restrictions are up to you. Stay put. Do not travel. Cancel that family reunion, the promotion party and the big night out. This really sucks, but these are special times. Don't take risks. Do not go to places where you are more than 20 people in the same room. It's not safe and it's not worth it.

Here's why: Fatality is the wrong yardstick. Catching the virus can mess up your life in many, many more ways than just straight-up killing you. "We are all young"—okay. "Even if we get the bug, we will survive"—fantastic. How about needing four months of physical therapy before you even feel human again. Or getting scar tissue in your lungs and having your activity level restricted for the rest of your life. Not to mention having every chance of catching another bug in hospital, while you're being treated or waiting to get checked with an immune system distracted even by the false alarm of an ordinary flu. No travel for leisure or business is worth this risk.

Now, odds are, you might catch coronavirus and might not even get symptoms. Great. Good for you. Very bad for everyone else, from your own grandparents to the random older person who got on the subway train a stop or two after you got off. You're fine, you're barely even sneezing or coughing, but you're walking around and you kill a couple of old ladies without even knowing it. Is that fair? You tell me.

https://www.newsweek.com/young-unafraid-coronavirus-pandemic-good-you-now-stop-killing-people-opinion-1491797
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