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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRoger Stone must have "something" on Trump.
Watching Trump via Barr interfere with the sentencing guidelines for Roger Stone has had me musing about the reason why.
Trump is known for having very few friends. They're either toadies, accomplices, and/or craven jocksniffers.
If Stone has a reputation for having the goods on individuals in order to carry out his "pranks," he likely also has impressive dossiers which include Trump, for insurance. Stone is evil, but not an idiot.
Trump is not interfering for rewarding loyalty. He's doing it to save his ass.
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)The late 70's was pretty crazy with coke and sex-without-lethal-consequences.
PatSeg
(47,419 posts)probably has something on him. I would think Stone has more than most.
madaboutharry
(40,209 posts)Stone is the last person you would want to have the goods on you. Roger probably has Poloroids.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)GaYellowDawg
(4,446 posts)You know, steroids that you take to improve your polo game. Lots of opportunity for abuse and blackmail there.
mnmoderatedem
(3,728 posts)you would not have seen recent events unfold if that were not the case.
Jarqui
(10,123 posts)Stone is 67. 6-9 years takes him to an age he may not be able to be very active.
Basically, facing a sentence like that, his life is close to being on the line (ignoring what he did)
Stone obviously knows the dirt on Trump.
If Stone rats Trump out, it will make stealing 2020 really tough for Trump ... who will wind up in jail if he doesn't.
Pardoning Stone is probably feared something like Ford pardoning Nixon - it killed Ford politically.
Flynn and Manafort are in roughly similar positions. Like Stone, their negotiating positions largely disappear after the 2020 election because if Trump is still in power, he's impeachment proof and gets another four years clear of jail.
Things happen for a reason. Trump isn't trying to help Stone for affectionate reasons. Trump's being blackmailed by Stone .. just like Giuliani's insurance policy.
LastDemocratInSC
(3,647 posts)Sammy the Bull had plenty on John Gotti and Stone has plenty on Trump.
gordianot
(15,237 posts)Like Manafort, Stone and Trump are all pigs rolling in the filth. My apologies to pigs.
3Hotdogs
(12,374 posts)I've known a few.
KPN
(15,643 posts)announcements, tweets or interviews leading up to his trial, did he not? As I recall he said something to the effect that he had insurance or something like that.
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)My guess is his request to Trump is simple. You can wait to pardon me. But I better not spend one night in prison.
It's an interesting situation. Let's just say Stone gets prison time. Can he really afford to bring down Trump, who is his only chance at a pardon? An interesting cat/mouse game.
I think they waited too late on this. Now they've backed this judge into a corner. Let's say she gives Stone prison time. Like 5 years.
Have they set her up for some sort of appeal where either a new trial is ordered or new sentencing? If Stone stays out on appeal, the 2020 election will be over before the appeal is heard.
Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)malaise
(268,968 posts)Had the same thought last night - rec
2naSalit
(86,579 posts)From Epstein adventures to probably helping to establish a human and drug trafficking network not to mention the money laundering? You mean that something?
Oh and he probably gave the nuclear codes or location of all our vital military facilities to pootin back during the first russian oval office visit. And i bet pootin has been to maga-laga on one of those yachts. And all the popular names in Congress and elsewhere are all swimming in a cesspool of guilt.
How's that for a horror story? I truly suspect that it's at least 50% of possibilities above.
If we don't fight like it's 1984, we're gonna be sorry.
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)You know, the WikiLeaks that is tied to foreign intelligence...
I think it's been shown that he was the contact for that or one of them. Don't forget his connections to most of the well funded RW racist groups too.