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UTUSN

(70,744 posts)
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 02:56 PM Jan 2020

STARR doing damnedest to shut down arguments

Sez:

* "Academics might disagree, but this with all due respect to the academy is not (the academy)."

* "The presidency is unique. duly elected president (not to be impeached?) "

* Now, conveniently citing a Democratic lawmaker, "the RODINO Rule - impeachment must be bipartisan."

(Funny how the Repukes come up with Dem "rules" when it's convenient for them. )


********NOTE TO STARR: No, no, and no.






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STARR doing damnedest to shut down arguments (Original Post) UTUSN Jan 2020 OP
Grasping at straws... dlk Jan 2020 #1
pontificating spanone Jan 2020 #2
I don't recall Ken Starr talking about the need for impeachment to be bipartisan when it was Clinton onenote Jan 2020 #3

onenote

(42,767 posts)
3. I don't recall Ken Starr talking about the need for impeachment to be bipartisan when it was Clinton
Mon Jan 27, 2020, 03:25 PM
Jan 2020

First of all, the framers of the Constitution didn't create any "bipartisanship" requirement. Parties weren't really a big thing at the time the Constitution was ratified, but the framers did end up effectively requiring consensus on the issue of conviction by requiring a 2/3 vote. Of course, the fact that those same framers didn't impose a 2/3 threshold on the House undercuts any suggestion that impeachment in the House has to be bipartisan.

Second, the vote on the Clinton articles were anything but "bipartisan". On Article 1, 98 percent of the House repubs voted for and 97.5% of the House Democrats voted against. On Article 3, 95% of the Republicans voted for and 97.5% of Democrats voted against. In both instances not only were the Articles approved, but there were sufficient Republican votes for approval even if every single Democrat had voted against.

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