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(118,925 posts)to Ukraine.
eleny
(46,166 posts)jmg257
(11,996 posts)Yes they have oil.
Trump should support them vs Russia.
Lots of corruption.
Fire the ambassador (most dont even know her name).
Pompeo will get going.
applegrove
(118,925 posts)Marie Yovanovitch was. So someone somewhere wanted her gone. Maybe in Ukraine. Maybe in Russia. Maybe Giuliani. Don't know. But she was not on Trump's radar until the meeting.
BigmanPigman
(51,672 posts)That is my new mantra.
mercuryblues
(14,562 posts)goes on Faux, makes a claim. Faux reports about it non-stop. RW media picks it up, then someone else tells trump this is what's happening. trump believes them, calls hannity to see what he should do. Runs that by putin and he says go for it.
gordianot
(15,259 posts)Eventually GOP Senators with heads on poles would be a relief.
Bob Loblaw
(1,900 posts)Amaryllis
(9,527 posts)zentrum
(9,866 posts)Why not all the tapes. What is his game here?
Amaryllis
(9,527 posts)Kali
(55,032 posts)does anybody know his background?
King_Klonopin
(1,307 posts)The way he was leering at her with that fixed, psychotic expression on his face --
and never blinking.
He looked like he was fantasizing about jumping across the table and cutting off
her head. . . or raping her. . . or eating her liver with some fava beans and a fine
chianti(?)
Kali
(55,032 posts)but wasn't he on by himself too? maybe he has a disability? what he was saying here seemed reasonable. it did seem creepy the way he stared at her, but I wonder if there is an explanation for it beyond the first impression.
King_Klonopin
(1,307 posts)MontanaMama
(23,368 posts)We dont have a lot of time left.
angrychair
(8,758 posts)For suckers and we get out over our shoes and find out the press or the House got over zealous and they turn out to be fakes
King_Klonopin
(1,307 posts)Hekate
(91,040 posts)Whatever voice analysis costs will be worth it to journalists working the story -- their newspapers, tv, and radio.
They need to protect themselves.
PandoraAwakened
(905 posts)trueblue2007
(17,250 posts)orgies
wishstar
(5,273 posts)Seems to me that leaving out the crystal clear loud order "take her out" here by the lawyer (and a transcript I saw posted online that leaves out the "take her out" order) and substituting "fire her" is purposely meant to protect Parnas (and Trump) from accusations that Parnas and his associates may have carried out a more nefarious plot against her. I have listened to the tape several times and Trump not once says "fire her' but the "take her out" is unmistakeably clear.
Parnas in the Rachel Maddow interview denied he was involved in anything serious against the Ambassador. He tried to laugh off and make light of the text messages from Robert Hyde about the movements of the Ambassador indicating surveillance and stalking and suggestions that they could pay someone to do something to her. Parnas claimed that the unhinged often drunk Hyde was a regular at the same Trump Hotel where the tape was recorded. Parnas called the bar there a cesspool (of Repub operatives).