Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:05 AM

trueblue2007 (13,440 posts)

FROM TWITTER. Good question. So we think when @SpeakerPelosibecomes Pres she will make @HillaryClin

So we think when @SpeakerPelosibecomes President that she will make @HillaryClinton
VP and step down so Hillary can finally be President?
thanks #Maddow

MY DREAM TONIGHT. I WILL DO MY USUAL FANTASY .... and them zoom into Hillary being made President of the United States.

....... AS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN.

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FROM TWITTER. Good question. So we think when @SpeakerPelosibecomes Pres she will make @HillaryClin (Original post)	trueblue2007	Jan 2020	OP
No - Hillary would never be confirmed as VP by both houses BUT	StarfishSaver	Jan 2020	#1
✔️	blm	Jan 2020	#2
She wouldn't have to run for Congress first?	Maraya1969	Jan 2020	#9
No. Interestingly, there's no requirement that the Speaker be a Member of Congress	StarfishSaver	Jan 2020	#11
Pelosi would be only be acting President	Wabbajack_	Jan 2020	#3
No. The Speaker would become the president, period.	StarfishSaver	Jan 2020	#4
No, after VP you can only be acting President	Wabbajack_	Jan 2020	#5
Yes, you're right. I stand corrected.	StarfishSaver	Jan 2020	#6
Yes, of course	Wabbajack_	Jan 2020	#7
I don't think that's the case	StarfishSaver	Jan 2020	#12
When Agnew left office, Nixon appointed Gerald Ford as VP	yellowdogintexas	Jan 2020	#8
Nixon nominated Ford, but he didn't become VP until confirmed by both the House and Senate	StarfishSaver	Jan 2020	#10

Response to trueblue2007 (Original post)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:13 AM

StarfishSaver (14,278 posts)

1. No - Hillary would never be confirmed as VP by both houses BUT

When Pelosi becomes President, the House could elect Hillary Speaker and THEN Pelosi resigns, and Hillary will become president.

Works for me ...

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Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:24 AM

blm (106,083 posts)

2. ✔️

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Thu Jan 16, 2020, 02:49 AM

Maraya1969 (17,553 posts)

9. She wouldn't have to run for Congress first?

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Response to Maraya1969 (Reply #9)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 05:59 AM

StarfishSaver (14,278 posts)

11. No. Interestingly, there's no requirement that the Speaker be a Member of Congress

Under the Constitution, the House can elect anyone Speaker.

Go figure...

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Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:29 AM

Wabbajack_ (1,300 posts)

3. Pelosi would be only be acting President

A newly appointed VP would automatically succeed to the Presidency.

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Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:33 AM

StarfishSaver (14,278 posts)

4. No. The Speaker would become the president, period.

And the new president can nominate a VP but they'd have to confirmed by both houses of Congress.

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Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:37 AM

Wabbajack_ (1,300 posts)

5. No, after VP you can only be acting President

Designated Survivor is not based in reality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_Succession_Act

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Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:39 AM

StarfishSaver (14,278 posts)

6. Yes, you're right. I stand corrected.

But the VP office would remain vacant until a vice president is nominated by the acting president and confirmed by both Houses.

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Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:43 AM

Wabbajack_ (1,300 posts)

7. Yes, of course

And then automatically superseded the acting President and become President!

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Response to Wabbajack_ (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 06:16 AM

StarfishSaver (14,278 posts)

12. I don't think that's the case

Section 1 of Article II provides that the acting president shall serve until the next election. The 25th Amendment provisions for the nomination and confirmation of a vice president doesn't change that, so an acting president will remain in the position even after a new vice president is sworn in.

Only a vice president filling a vacancy left by the death, resignation, removal or disability of the president would become president, not acting president. But otherwise, an acting president continues as acting president until the next presidential election, regardless whether the VP position gets filled.

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Thu Jan 16, 2020, 01:44 AM

yellowdogintexas (17,710 posts)

8. When Agnew left office, Nixon appointed Gerald Ford as VP

then when Nixon left Ford appointed Nelson Rockefeller as VP. The only time the Speaker could directly become POTUS is if the Vice President and the President were to leave office simultaneously

If the POTUS dies or leaves office, the VPOTUS becomes President, then appoints a VP

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Response to yellowdogintexas (Reply #8)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 05:48 AM

StarfishSaver (14,278 posts)

10. Nixon nominated Ford, but he didn't become VP until confirmed by both the House and Senate

A Speaker could become president if there is no vice President in office at the time a president leaves office. The president and VP don't have to leave office simultaneously for this to happen.

If Nixon had been removed or resigned before the House and Senate confirmed Ford, Speaker Carl Albert would have become acting president. He could have then nominated a vice president, who would have had to be confirmed in order to take office. Had Albert not done so or his nominee weren't confirmed, the VP office would have remained vacant and the new Speaker would have been next in the line of succession.

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