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(129,096 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)literally admitting there was a "quid pro quo".
Midnightwalk
(3,131 posts)Saying quid quo pro, inappropriate, unprecedented
And ask: was it only sondland? Ask that moron who cant count past 20 if he can count that high
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)Including both Sondland and Mulvaney...
crickets
(25,981 posts)He lives there now.
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)He paid his $1 million and his payment's coverage term has now expired.
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)crickets
(25,981 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)underpants
(182,829 posts)I guess Im not up to date on their inside jokes
crickets
(25,981 posts)Somebody just happened to pick Kay as the jeweler.
DBoon
(22,367 posts)an ineffective reaction to a stressful event
underpants
(182,829 posts)Mersky
(4,982 posts)But clutching pearls is funny enough. Maybe I'm adding in too much, but meh, I did laugh extra.
not_the_one
(2,227 posts)Mersky
(4,982 posts)mix.
Botany
(70,516 posts)How deep does this corruption go?
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)meow2u3
(24,764 posts)He's accusing them of committing perjury when in fact the WB was telling the truth to the best of their knowledge. RATcliffe needs to be sued for slander per se.
getagrip_already
(14,764 posts)All of the incidents the WB testified to hearing about were corroberated. None were contradicted. None.
Plus, the intel committee never used the WB report in any capacity other than a roadmap of who to talk to. They never relied on the WB's testamony, and all the witnesses they called had independent knowledge of what happened.
It doesn't matter who the WB is or what was in the report. Other witnesses frovided facts for the committee to rely on.
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)Botany
(70,516 posts)Adam Schiff had zero contacts with the Whistleblower.
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)PatSeg
(47,501 posts)hoping it will stick.
Botany
(70,516 posts)If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.
They are planting seeds and many end up taking root because of the repetition. Masters of propaganda.
Botany
(70,516 posts).... bottom of this (an OSU player suspended for 2 games) so we need to find the whistleblower in this case.
Now you and I see the propaganda and lies coming but because of their lies and the right wing 24/7
propaganda we have a % of Americans who buy the lie as truth.
And they are changing the language, so that positive words become negative, something they've done for years now. They are trying to make "whistleblower" a bad thing and it is starting to take.
not_the_one
(2,227 posts)Donald Trump in a nutshell. (I seldom use his name, also known as "the turd" ...
marlakay
(11,474 posts)Even with muting the other side. And I bet it the republicans do the same.
How does that help? And regular people arent going to like this mess, we are into it and struggling.
Its like watching a volleyball game where they are throwing a fireball at each other. And the witnesses are like the audience getting hit with the ball.
Yes I think our side makes more sense....
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)Mersky
(4,982 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)Mersky
(4,982 posts)It is bizarre how continually dense and awful the republicans of the Committee can be.
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)to continue the bullshit of "no quid pro quo" - despite the texts and actual video of them admitting to it.
hibbing
(10,098 posts)Boy, they sure all stick to their talking points. Collins up again...barf.
Peace
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)in2herbs
(2,945 posts)on the Cte with a D after their title casually mention the news that HUD Carson and Trump have also been withholding aid to Puerto Rico?
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)The entire administration has been doing corrupt and illegal holds and other ethics violations and that can be part (and has been part) of their own investigations by other committees.
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,349 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)Midnightwalk
(3,131 posts)Could only listen with half an ear for a while. Did a republican ask castor if it was fair for democrats to treat trump a liar???
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)Midnightwalk
(3,131 posts)Has any republican ask any question about evidence? Nope.
Ignoring evidence is always divisive. You cannot agree with people who ignore evidence
Bringing up stuff that republicans refuse to act on issues and blaming this inquiry
Kali
(55,014 posts)hibbing
(10,098 posts)Oh god, what cajones it must take to bring up prescription drugs, and other policies HIS party has been against. Then he brings up the debt, I'm sure he voted against the tax cuts for the ruling class. God, how awful.
Peace
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,349 posts)getagrip_already
(14,764 posts)ted lieu is up now
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)including the hundreds sitting on Turtle's desk.
Mersky
(4,982 posts)So, talk to the turtle about the productivity log jam.
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)crickets
(25,981 posts)Mersky
(4,982 posts)crickets
(25,981 posts)Castor should not have been able to answer, "I don't remember." What utter BS.
I don't think a number matters or has any bearing here unless somebody wants to remind Gaetz about Sondland's million dollar donation and tell Gaetz to STFU.
edit to add omg listen to this ass - as if he cares about any of the issues he is Gish galloping. This man is heinous.
Midnightwalk
(3,131 posts)Would have been funny as hell.
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)IcyPeas
(21,889 posts)there it is.
the end.
getagrip_already
(14,764 posts)"me" or "us". It's just what's in the memo the wh released.
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)Midnightwalk
(3,131 posts)But there wont be a single question on evidence
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)crickets
(25,981 posts)hibbing
(10,098 posts)I'm shocked that a Democratic member of the House would donate to the campaign of a Democratic candidate.
No questions, no questions, no questions.
Peace
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)crickets
(25,981 posts)Ya know, lets talk about campaign contributions. Let's talk about those receiving them in Congress, shall we? Lets talk about dark money and millions from Russian oligarchs. Let's!
Honestly, if the Republicans want to go there, I would love it if the Democrats blew that issue wide open and made them very, very sorry.
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)Midnightwalk
(3,131 posts)Or something like that. Swalwell is doing great with the who did xyz corrupt. President trump.
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)(riff on Howard Baker's famous quote)
malaise
(269,054 posts)Don the Con knew everything.
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah - I love Swalwell
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)malaise
(269,054 posts)I do like him
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)crickets
(25,981 posts)jayschool2013
(2,312 posts)"Who's a completely corrupt asshole running this entire scheme?"
Goldman: "President Trump."
sheshe2
(83,791 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)elleng
(130,973 posts)'Mr. biggs what's direct evidence?' ????
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)Texts, clips of testimony, emails, transcripts of phone calls and testimony, and pressers by the President and they don't consider that "evidence".
elleng
(130,973 posts)AS IF this were a trial (in COURT,) which it ISN'T!!!
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)elleng
(130,973 posts)Mersky
(4,982 posts)Glad Swalwell brought that back around. Especially, since the Russian foreign minister, lavrov, will meet with tRump tomorrow.
Thank you, Congressman Swallwell!
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)demmiblue
(36,865 posts)Hot damn, he is good!
bluestarone
(16,976 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)crickets
(25,981 posts)He's hitting all the high points:
Violating federal election law
Putting personal interest ahead of national security
Thumbs up to Lieu drawing parallels with military service and how CiC should not be held to a lower standard than anyone else serving in the military.
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)That money almost fell back into the Treasury because it was being held right up to the end of the fiscal year and there would have needed to be extraordinary measures done to not "lose" it (meaning reprogrammed by Congress).
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)joost5
(421 posts)can't deny the facts. They're trying to obfuscate but to ZERO effect.
Also, Drumpf deserved impeachment on Day #1 of his "presidency" for emoluments violations alone. Plus illegal Stormy Daniels payment.
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)including leveraging taxpayer money for person gain.
malaise
(269,054 posts)Guess that's why the Minority in the House still believes it is the Majority.
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)(another seat we need to take )
IcyPeas
(21,889 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)Midnightwalk
(3,131 posts)Not none. Lots of evidence of obstruction. Im so tired of that lie.
FM123
(10,053 posts)IcyPeas
(21,889 posts)projecting again are we?
FM123
(10,053 posts)I love that Lieu ends every testimony with "no one is above the law".
IcyPeas
(21,889 posts)FM123
(10,053 posts)Some of those repugs made my ears bleed, lol.
NJCher
(35,685 posts)When Swalwell used repetition to drive home the fact that there is one person and one person only responsible for this crime:
Swalwell: Who called Zelensky to "ask for a favor" to stage an investigation on Joe Biden?
Goldman: President Trump.
Swalwell: Who told Pence he could not go to Zelensky's inauguration?
Goldman: President Trump.
Swalwell: Who prevented witnesses from testifying?
Goldman: President Trump.
This went on and on. It was shocking how many of the actions required to carry out this crime were directly performed by "President Trump."
Midnightwalk
(3,131 posts)Who betrayed you and me?
D-o-n-a-l-d t-r-u-m-p
Mersky
(4,982 posts)No one has called for a nullification of the election.
Its been all of the self-dealing corruption and crime committed over the past two and a half years that has lead to impeachment.
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)gulliver
(13,186 posts)That's very thuggish, mafioso-like, and memorable to people on gut level.