Another Walmart shooting - three dead

[malaise]

https://kfor.com/2019/11/18/investigation-underway-after-reported-shooting-at-duncan-walmart/
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Three people are dead after a shooting at an Oklahoma Walmart on Monday, the Oklahoma Highway Patrol says.

According to The Duncan Banner, police received a call just before 10 a.m. about a shooting at the Walmart in Duncan near Highway 81 and West Plato Road.

OHP officials confirmed to News 4 three people are dead. The Duncan Banner reports the shooter is among those dead.

Red River Tech and Duncan Public Schools were put on lockdown due to the incident. Red River Tech remains on lockdown, however, Duncan Public Schools are no longer on lockdown.

[Iliyah]

1. R.I.P.

What is it with Walmart? What is it with schools, churches?

[dixiegrrrrl]

12. Lots of targets in an enclosed area.

n/t

[Botany]

2. Make it stop

California, Santa Clarita

N.J. Football Game

California, Fresno

Oklahoma, Wallmart

last 4 days ... how are those 2nd amendment freedoms working out?

BTW Fuck the NRA.

[Ferrets are Cool]

3. SMH

Less safe than living in Deadwood.

[Bettie]

4. Too soon to talk about action with regard to

easy access to guns.

It's always too early.

In the small town next to us, they received a threat credible enough to close down the schools for several days, cancel all activities and get the FBI involved. It is a town of about 2500.

[Botany]

6. But can we talk about video games & mental health?

n/t

[Bettie]

7. Yes, of course we can

and send "thoughts and prayers".

And it is always too soon. Always.

[Newest Reality]

10. From my own forays into this kind of phenomena...

I think there are some very deep and systemic issues concerning this culture that need more investigation, analysis and attention, but for now, that's one for the sociologists.

And no, mental health and video games, per se, are not a causative factor. Much of what we are seeing, in many cases, (not all) is symptomatic, but that's easily overlooked when we have a superficial, mass media that does not explore issues that have uncomfortable ramifications.

One very simple factor is that America has been and is a rather violent culture and this is not really acknowledged in popular venues, so we have a sort of a delusional facade that masks it, in my opinion. When you proceed from there and go deeper, things emerge.

[Bettie]

11. Yeah, If video games were a cause of violent behavior

there are other countries that play them as much as people here.

And yes, our culture does have some pretty major issues overall.

In short: I agree entirely.

[Celerity]

5. RIP. More gun insanity is gun-humping USA.

The NRA is a criminal cartel and needs to be RICO-acted out of existence.

[Wellstone ruled]

8. Small town America is dealing

with some major STRESS. Rural Residents are going broke because of the Farm Economy. Meth and Opioid addiction is running unchecked for the most part. And we are in the Crazy Time of the Year.

Until D.C.calls a halt to this shit,nothing changes,only gets worse.

[FirstLight]

15. "Crazy Time of Year"

Unfortunately, while we have seen this going on ALL year Round, you are correct.

I'm now reconsidering ALL trips to any kind of large venue, store, etc... If anything I will buy the kids silly stuff from the $ store and maybe if they need stuff we will look online. Otherwise, living in a remote area could be something to worry about...(Northern Nevada is still very red, despite the state turning blue recently, and I feel like that is a common denominator)


while we cannot live our lives in fear, things are probably going to get worse (esp. in red states/districts) as Impeachment and corruption charges pan out

[Wellstone ruled]

16. Well,we live in the Vegas Valley.

And this is our choice and we have never or will never live in fear. And yes,we do have areas of deep Redness,but,what folks do not know is,Vegas is only 41% Caucasian and our City is so vibrant and growing as a result of it's Diversity of Cultures. Still have a bunch of Rednecks in the position of Power,but,they are self eliminating themselves with their anti crap.

Like you,once you leave Clark County,the Ignorance IQ rises the further north you travel. Reno and Sparks seem to be in flux due to Cali Mover-Inners.

[greenman3610]

9. does Walmart sell guns? maybe they'll think about stopping.

[dixiegrrrrl]

14. As of Sept. 3 this year

Wal-Mart said it will stop selling handgun ammunition and "short-barrel rifle ammunition," such as the .223 caliber and 5.56 caliber, that can also be used on assault-style weapons after selling all of its current inventory.

Walmart (WMT) will also stop selling handguns in Alaska, the only state where it still sells handguns.

And Walmart will request that customers no longer openly carry guns into its 4,700 US stores, or its Sam's Club stores, in states that allow open carry.

[Archae]

13. I realize this is going to get me some flack, but it has to be said.

Every time there is a multiple shooting, the "BAN ALL GUNZ!" zealots fall out of the woodwork.

Guns are out there. There are by all current estimates, 300-350 million guns.

Should ALL guns be banned?

It's already illegal to sell a gun to a felon or mental patient, or for them to own a gun or even have one on them.

So that means felons and mental patients only use knives? Hell no. They illegally get guns and will start shooting.

And who would enforce a gun ban, and how?

Have the ATF go door to door, ransacking houses and businesses, looking for the "wrong" guns?

[malaise]

18. Last Saturday a man killed his wife

and three of his young sons. One survived. She had filed for divorce. He then blew out his own brains.
Killing with guns is a way of live in the USA. Clearly citizens like it so or something would be done.

[Archae]

19. So now what?

Did the guy show any signs of being murderous ahead of time?

The Las Vegas shooter, outside of his massive gambling losses, showed no indication of being murderous.

Yet he killed over 50 people.

Improving the background check isn't the magic solution, but it will help some. This should be done, but the NRA and their stooges oppose anything that would prevent a gun being sold.

Likewise penalties for a felon having a gun should be increased. I'd say to 10 years.

[malaise]

20. Don't you think police should have checked that he had no weapons

after she took out that retraining order on Friday?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-california-shooting-sandiego/man-kills-wife-three-young-sons-in-san-diego-home-police-idUSKBN1XQ0RE
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Three young boys and two adults were fatally shot and another boy was wounded in a domestic dispute that escalated into a shooting on Saturday in southeastern San Diego, police said.

Police responded to a home in the Paradise Hills neighborhood where they found a 3-year-old boy along with mother and father dead inside early Saturday morning. Three other boys, ages 5, 9 and 11, were taken to a hospital where two of them died, San Diego Police Chief David Nisleit said during a news conference.

After the mother obtained a restraining order against the father on Friday, the couple got in an argument on Saturday morning. After shooting the family, the father turned his handgun on himself, Dobbs said.

[maxsolomon]

17. Familicide

It will never be stopped. There are too many guns already in circulation.