*****IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY HEARING THREAD 4**********

[crickets]

[BumRushDaShow]

1. Committee lawyer asking questions now to Taylor & Kent

[BumRushDaShow]

2. Committee lawyer - Daniel Goldman

[backtoblue]

3. I give up on ANYONE who tries to condone or dismiss these revelations

[Wednesdays]

8. And it's just the first inning

[BumRushDaShow]

4. Kent - U.S. policy has eschued having countries

have "selective investigations" of their opponents.

[ancianita]

5. Goldman's drawing substantive answers that are the heart of the Articles of Impeachment.

I love this guy!

[klook]

6. Pence again!

Up to his lily-white neck in this.

[Mersky]

7. The 'call me' text was depicted on a screen

A couple mins ago

[BumRushDaShow]

9. Goldman asking if Taylor had taken notes of a Sept. 1st conversation

His quotes indicated that these were the remarks he "heard" at the time.

[catbyte]

10. This is absolutely devastating. I can't imagine what bullshit questions the republicans

will ask.

[Wednesdays]

11. "Are you now, or have you ever been

a member of the Communist Party?"

[DBoon]

19. "tell us about Hillary Clinton's email server"

nt

[klook]

39. "We thank you for your service... You don't have any first-hand knowledge

of the call, do you?”

They’ll hammer that over and over, completely glossing over the fact that the White House’s own summary of the call clearly shows exactly what Trump was up to.

[BumRushDaShow]

12. Goldman walked through the "quid pro quo" conversation from Sondland.

[BumRushDaShow]

13. This is all mob boss talk!

RICO!!

[Mersky]

17. "Pay up before signing the check"

When soldiers are dying in a war conflict, a business man doesn’t ask for them to pay up to spare their lives.

A mob boss does. It’s extortion.

[crickets]

22. +1

[BumRushDaShow]

14. Taylor describing a bribery scenario

[uponit7771]

34. +1, democrats smart tying all this to bribery so now kGOP has to go to "state of mind" which is ...

... about the best defense they have actually.

"Trump is a moron ... " might work for his base.

[helpmenow]

15. This is so delicious!

[demmiblue]

16. Republicans huddle as Dem counsel questions Taylor

Link to tweet

Sit your ass down, Gym.

[C_U_L8R]

20. Get a jacket, Gym.

[BumRushDaShow]

21. CSPAN3 had an earlier shot of Nunes

looking like he was fast asleep when Taylor had been testifying.

[struggle4progress]

23. It seems Counsel has OD'd on whatever it was

[BumRushDaShow]

28. One of the tweet replies to that was this

Link to tweet

TEXT
Kathryn Watson
✔
@kathrynw5
· 29m

Nunes got up during Schiff's questioning and hasn't come back yet

Pat Toomey’s Bravery @BraveryPat

I’m not sure, but I feel @DevinNunes is feeling some level of panic. Probably all of the @GOP. What do you think @SenToomey? #ImpeachmentDay #ambassadortaylor
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1
12:04 PM - Nov 13, 2019

That twitter account "Pat Toomey’s Bravery"!!!

[bdamomma]

83. The truth

is killing them!! Thank God, the truth wins!!!

[Bayard]

59. Their counsel seems to portray what the rethugs are feeling!

We are so screwed.

[Johnny2X2X]

18. Taylor is nailing him

Basically he did a quid who pro while saying this is. It a Quid Pro Quo. It’s clear as day.

Cross examination will be a bunch of conspiracy theory gibberish.

[Midnightwalk]

24. Having an ambassador testify is great

Guy has gravitas but also is able to relate very well. None of the lawyer like hedging.

He has been in difficult meetings before and is unlikely to get rattled.

Taylor is doing great

[nolabear]

25. Interesting Twitter fact.

The minions (pros as well as regular old trolls) are spamming hell out of the place, but there are no signs anyone is paying attention. Virtually no retweets or comments.

The pro-impeachment, and even more neutral factions are having long and interesting conversations.

[Arkansas Granny]

26. Apparently, Meadows and Jordan have left the hearing room.

Link to tweet

?s=20


Helen Kennedy
✔
@HelenKennedy
They complain about non-public hearings, then leave the public hearings.

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11:05 AM - Nov 13, 2019
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[BumRushDaShow]

29. They eventually came back...

[not_the_one]

54. Hey, we all gotta pee, occasionally.... (I'm just guessing)

Except for the turd. He has his "depends"... He can go for DAYS...!!!

Or they just wanted to go to the men's room to compare wrasslin' techniques..

[BumRushDaShow]

58. LOL

[Johonny]

109. They had to check in with Putin

[BumRushDaShow]

115. Of course!

[nolabear]

30. Unbelievable. Well, previously unbelievable.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

33. Maybe they had to run out to puke.

[crickets]

37. So Heckle and Jeckle were off pinning down the details to their next hijinks...

Let us in! Let us in! Public hearings!

[Meadowoak]

119. Meadows probably crapped his pants and needed a shower, Gym just went to watch.

[Mersky]

27. Spell check: Sasha Danyliuk is the national security advisor for Ukraine

Per text between of Taylor and Sondland on July 21, as depicted on screen.

Another text from July 25 also given on a screen.

[BumRushDaShow]

31. Kent reiterated - no Ukraine interference in the 2016 election

it was established that Russia did interfere.

[ancianita]

32. I suppose Repubs wlll ask them about their knowledge of Crowdstrike, tho' there's zero to get.

They'll keep Crowdstrike questions up going into next week.

[BumRushDaShow]

38. Kent said that he believed that Crowdstrike was headed by a Russian-American

and that org had nothing to do with Ukraine.

[ancianita]

41. Here's Wikipedia's summary of Crowdstrike ownership.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CrowdStrike

[BumRushDaShow]

45. Kent was apparently referencing

Dmitri Alperovitch (one of the co-founders who is Russian-American)!

[ancianita]

53. Right. Wonder if his name will come up again. nt

[BumRushDaShow]

55. I doubt that the GOP would want to mention that name

Their whole schtick is tied to the name "Crowdstrike" and their bullshit about fantasy email servers.

[ancianita]

81. And now Hillary's name dropped again.

[BumRushDaShow]

82. Yup - that's all they have. CT

[bdamomma]

97. Wow

they are desperate, I wonder if they'll mention Benhazi!! Repigs have nothing.

[BumRushDaShow]

35. "Majority time expired" 5 minute recess and will return with the CIRCUS performance

[backtoblue]

36. 5 minute recess...

Both men just shrugged like "we dont need a break, we got this"

[Midnightwalk]

40. Great questions to Kent

Did Ukraine interfere with the 2016 election? No

Who did? It’s clear the russians did.

Did Biden act according to US policy. He did.

Riveting testimony. I could watch all day. I hope they hand republicans their asses when they question them.

Trump was directly tied to extortion over the military aid.

[BumRushDaShow]

42. CSPAN3 covering Mark Meadows' fantasy bullshit

The reporters are looking at him like he has lost his mind.

[barbtries]

44. im really pissed about it.

it's not appropriate. he's lying his ass off and this is what they put on?

[jberryhill]

46. It's entertaining

CSPAN has to point the camera at something.

But I have never seen 500 pounds of bullshit squeezed into a 250 pound bag like that.

[barbtries]

49. well now you have

Meadows. aargh. one of those people who make me embarrassed to say i live in NC.

[BumRushDaShow]

51. The question is - where is Nunes?

Nunes is the Minority ranking member, not Meadows.

[not_the_one]

62. I believe the military term is "blivet"...

which also describes the 1st turd.

[barbtries]

43. someone tell me

why fucking cspan is spending this entire break letting a republican lie and lie and lie?

[BumRushDaShow]

48. Remember CSPAN covers "Congress" and Meadows is in Congress.

(if anything, you see the panic )

[barbtries]

50. are there not any democrats out on the floor

willing to speak? IMO c-span should stick to covering the hearing and let the shenanigans on the other side of the door stay there.

[BumRushDaShow]

52. IMHO, the 2 hours we just saw was all that needed to be said from our side so far.

It has put the GOP on major defense and the public was warned about their conspiracy theories!

And as a note - the CSPANs cover those types of press conferences, no matter which side does them.

[barbtries]

57. it just gave them another free chance to catapult propaganda,

but i just realized that he was playing to one person in that interview, and one person only.

[BumRushDaShow]

60. I don't know if any other outlets were covering that

especially when they would rather have their anchors do all the 'splainin'.

[barbtries]

93. yeah, that was one occasion

when i would have preferred to switch to MSNBC, but i'll have to wait for youtube clips for that!

[BumRushDaShow]

100. Threre's another thread here in GD where a few were describing the other coverage

and didn't sound like they were showing Meadows' soapbox subterfuge!

[BumRushDaShow]

47. Meadows is insulting a reporter

[Tech]

75. He seems to think white man explaining still looks good. It doesn't.

[BumRushDaShow]

56. About to start again. I may have to mute

and do the close-captioned only.

[mnhtnbb]

68. I just turned it off.

Nunes says that phone call was just mutual cooperation between two presidents.

Boy, Republicans really do think Americans are stupid. Maybe the ones who watch nothing but Faux Noise, but anyone who heard the direct testimony from this morning won't be buying the Republican con.

[3catwoman3]

117. "Republicans really do think Americans are stupid."

The ones who vote for them are.

[dweller]

70. hopefully you all will add the details to these threads

i can't watch these fools, esp Devin Nmoooonez

taking my break

✌🏼

[nolabear]

61. As usual, a speech rather than a question from Farmer Devin.

[Mersky]

63. Here we go with Nunes

(I'm literally eating popcorn.)

[barbtries]

64. okay. Nunes just started

by lying about the whole thrust of the call that began this process.
I have some errands to run, will be back then.

[TlalocW]

65. Crap. Nunes has completely decimated our side.

All right. Let's just wrap it up and go home.

TlalocW

[helpmenow]

66. How can he even speak with his head so far up Trump's orange ass

Gosh I can't stand these repugs

[backtoblue]

67. Who knew a cow could pound a table so hard?

Hes an asshole. And...moo

[Midnightwalk]

69. Idiot says what?

Nunes is apparently going to testify.

Nunes says i want to talk about the core of the impeachment. Taylor perks up.

Go on dipshit. Ask a question. Get your ass handed to you.

[uponit7771]

72. I take it Nunes is lying about dems admitting UKR interfering with 2016 elections? Nunes talking

... isn't going to help anyone.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

92. Nunes advances elements of the conspiracy theories ...

He phrases each question so that the Ambassador can answer, "Correct".

(paraphrased example because I can't remember the pile of cowshit spouted)
'So you didn't know about so-and-so ridiculing President Trump on twitter during the entire campaign and thereafter?'

[BumRushDaShow]

71. Nunes -

[underpants]

73. Nunes starts based on a conspiracy theory and then says sending his PERSONAL LAWYER was reasonable

[BumRushDaShow]

74. Here comes the CT bullshit

[nolabear]

76. Oh look. Hillary.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

78. Are we at Benghazi and Pizzagate yet?

[BumRushDaShow]

80. He's deep into it now.

[crickets]

77. The change in tone and intent is jarring to say the least.

It is not going to reflect well on them.

[uponit7771]

79. So Will Nunes just run out of CT crap to say?! Cause Taylor doesn't know about any of what Nunes is

... talking about.

I take it they're going to bore people with their CT crap.

[underpants]

94. That's what Schiff just pointed out.

Nunes is using wild wildly baked conspiracy theories based on half cocked bull crap.

[underpants]

84. The fact checking on Nunes is going to be brutal

From what I’ve heard this is all based on reports from off beat RW sites and specific quotes that SOUND like he knows what he’s talking about.

[Mike 03]

85. Wish there were some way to watch TV ratings in real time

to see if millions of people are turning off their TV sets.

[uponit7771]

87. That happened after first 20 minutes

[uponit7771]

86. Stupid line of questions coming out now ... The lawyer asks Taylor to guess about reports of Red Don

[crickets]

88. This thread is getting long

so I have started thread 5 - after that one, I pass it off to someone else.

Impeachment Thread 5 is live.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212681426

[BumRushDaShow]

89. Here comes the sideshow

[demmiblue]

90. 1 minute in and counsel is coming off as a used car salesman.

[uponit7771]

96. +1, why do a lot of kGOP look like they want to be punch in the face ?!!

[BumRushDaShow]

91. Schiff slapping Nunes and Radcliff down

[Miles Archer]

102. Radcliff's undies are very, very bunched

Tells Schiff, after he spoke, that he can PROMISE him that the hearings are going to change DRAMATICALLY after this.

Republican counsel exerting an EXTREME effort to lead the witness...Taylor...and it just ain't happening.

[BumRushDaShow]

114. My cuz texted

and wondered who the heck that guy (Steve Castor) was because he seemed "off".

(plus she mentioned that he was from here in Philly - found an article about him - https://www.inquirer.com/politics/nation/steve-castor-impeachment-hearing-lawyer-trump-philadelphia-20191113.html)

[uponit7771]

95. *** MORE TWERKIN !!! ***

[Mersky]

98. So, Nunes gleaned that tRump didn't care about the Ukrainians

Even before he became pResident. As Taylor clearly related candidate tRumps speaking to giving Crimea back to Russia in 2016.

It's always been about what's good for tRump and putin.

[uponit7771]

99. The KGOP lawyer is crashing and burning QUICK !!! He's horrible !!!

[elleng]

103. awful

[C_U_L8R]

105. This clown is a lawyer?

Clearly he hasn't prepared. Going down in flames.

[Miles Archer]

107. He's trying for "GOTCHA" moments with Taylor and Taylor isn't having any of it. n/t

[Mossfern]

101. Are they all

going to follow this tactic of testifying via questions?

[elleng]

106. seems so

Glad Mr. Kent informing him/then of some facts and process.

[coeur_de_lion]

104. STEVE CASTOR IS A WEENIE

That is all.

[uponit7771]

110. +1, he looks like he's asking to be beat up for slapping someones grand mother

[elleng]

111. some kind of creature;

not sure Weenie is it!

[Mersky]

113. A boiled weenie...that fell off the hotdog cart.

[Botany]

108. Leading the witness much?

Where did they get this guy? 1-800-LAW-YERS?

Both Kent and Taylor are way out in front of him.

[elleng]

112. leading to NOWHERE.

[Botany]

116. I'm gone .... this GOP lawyer is God Awful

[BumRushDaShow]

124. He's a corporate lawyer

apparently knows little about government.

[BumRushDaShow]

118. Now diving into Burisma.

[Mersky]

120. Repugs need to quit with the 'Mayor' giuliani crap.

The man has been a disgrace for years now. He's tRumps current fixer, and no longer America's Mayor. Good grief.

[elleng]

121. they're after hunter (+++) Bidens now.

[Mersky]

125. Yeah, I track at my own pace.

Gotta share this or that. Squint, and I’m timely.

I’ve picked up over at thread 5.

[BumRushDaShow]

122. Now full-blown Biden bash.

[SonofDonald]

123. FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH!!!!

Do you know if he had any experience???

Just grasping for that straw

Did he move to Ukraine?

Wtaf are they talking about?

I'm surprised their hair hasn't caught on fire or a lightning bolt hasn't shown up

[C_U_L8R]

127. No different than any other board member

Their logic is screwy. They are such idiots.

[LAS14]

126. GOP's Steve Contor is certainly not impressive.

He hesitates, restarts, etc. Does not display the confidence of someone with the truth on his side. Not like Taylor and Kent.

[jayschool2013]

128. Longest. 45 minutes. Ever. NT