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"Once Wikileaks is shown to be the GRU's partner, all Trump's collusion with it becomes criminal. " (Original Post) triron Oct 2019 OP
More related here (Roger Stone's case) triron Oct 2019 #1
Mensch? Yeah, no. TwilightZone Oct 2019 #2
Still up voting because I like where this is going. ffr Oct 2019 #3
That's the way I feel exactly. triron Oct 2019 #4
I'll err on the side of plausible content claims when it comes to redacted grand jury material. ancianita Oct 2019 #5
The degree and form of Wikileaks' seeming coordination with the GRU has been assumed by many, Ford_Prefect Oct 2019 #6
knr triron Oct 2019 #7

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
2. Mensch? Yeah, no.
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 11:57 PM
Oct 2019

She has a history of being not only wrong, but spectacularly wrong.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/28/trump-tweets-hoax-louise-mensch-claude-taylor

She also claimed that Steve Bannon was getting the death penalty for espionage.

She also claimed that Orrin Hatch was replacing President Trump. In 2017.

She also claimed that Andrew Breitbart, who had a heart attack while walking, was murdered by Putin, with zero evidence.

She's about as unreliable a source as it gets outside of straight, intentional fake news.

triron

(22,003 posts)
4. That's the way I feel exactly.
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 12:59 AM
Oct 2019

LM is wrong about some shit but not everything.
You have to be careful with her though I have learned.
She seems to have sobered a bit lately as well.

ancianita

(36,055 posts)
5. I'll err on the side of plausible content claims when it comes to redacted grand jury material.
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 01:17 AM
Oct 2019

We'll find out soon enough.

Ford_Prefect

(7,897 posts)
6. The degree and form of Wikileaks' seeming coordination with the GRU has been assumed by many,
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 01:31 AM
Oct 2019

to the point of CT level speculation.

Those who love to hate Wikileaks have fanned that assertion to the point where some have accused them of initiating the Hindenberg Disaster and sinking the Lusitania by remote control. (Sarcasm yes, but just barely so).

However, a little perspective might be due here. A few of us recall a different attitude expressed towards Wikileaks when they exposed some of the more egregious excesses of the Neo-Con inspired wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

It is important to differentiate the evolution of that organization and its several incarnations, as well as how the CIA and other US intel outfits reacted to them.

I don't claim to know all the truth of that history but I am aware that a considerable amount of outright lies have been told in defense of what was done in those wars by some of "our"operators. I also know as do many of you that the intel community does not like being dragged into the light and embarrassed over its faults.

So a few grains of salt might be appropriate, no?

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