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Thu Oct 24, 2019, 02:46 PM

A shout-out to Richard Engel.

His reporting regarding the Kurds has been phenomenal. Thank you!





.@realDonaldTrump calling on the Kurdish people to head to Syria's "Oil Region" where they have never lived. He's saying Kurds should abandon their cities, farms and homes. Mass population transfer was a tactic Stalin often used, not one called for by modern American presidents.




Deeply upsetting the Kurds of Syria, who fought bravely against ISIS, lost so many -many still injured- now have to hide what they did, as Russia, Turkey and Assad forces will call them 'traitors,' blackmail and extort them. They will have to hide a proud history. Unfair. Wrong,




Tonight as the Kurdish people look up at the stars here in northern Syria, they have many big decisions to make. Where to send their families? Who can they trust? Can they reconcile with the Assad govenment? Can the trust Putin? And why Trump started all this mess to begin with.


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Reply A shout-out to Richard Engel. (Original post)
demmiblue Oct 24 OP
spanone Oct 24 #1
Leghorn21 Oct 24 #2
Iliyah Oct 24 #3
Boomerproud Oct 24 #7
Mike Nelson Oct 24 #4
renate Oct 24 #5
wryter2000 Oct 24 #6
albacore Oct 24 #8
dewsgirl Oct 24 #9
Cyrano Oct 24 #10
Hortensis Oct 24 #11
Hermit-The-Prog Oct 24 #14
Hortensis Oct 24 #19
cadaverdog Oct 24 #21
Hortensis Oct 24 #23
Hermit-The-Prog Oct 24 #26
Hortensis Oct 24 #27
Hermit-The-Prog Oct 24 #30
Hortensis Oct 24 #31
ffr Oct 24 #12
Pepsidog Oct 24 #13
MartyTheGreek Oct 24 #20
Pepsidog Oct 24 #29
Nitram Oct 24 #15
Bernardo de La Paz Oct 24 #16
dchill Oct 24 #17
PatSeg Oct 24 #18
mcar Oct 24 #22
flamingdem Oct 24 #24
UniteFightBack Oct 24 #25
bdamomma Oct 24 #28
UpInArms Oct 25 #32
FakeNoose Oct 25 #33

Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 02:48 PM

1. He was pissed. Says Kurds are being slaughtered by ISIS.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 02:49 PM

2. He is SPITTIN MAD

Hang tough, Richard

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 02:52 PM

3. Local channels are shutting him out.

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Response to Iliyah (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 03:14 PM

7. I hate local news.

They never get my time or energy. Bravo Mr. Engel.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 02:53 PM

4. I worry about him...

... they won't like his reporting. I hope he stays safe.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 03:10 PM

5. good for him

He's so absolutely excellent, as a journalist and as a human being.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 03:12 PM

6. He's amazing

And he really knows the Middle East

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 03:14 PM

8. Take what Mike Nelson said..above...

.... and add that I worry about him being in war zones ALL the time.
It's not the one with your name on it; it's the one addressed "to whom it may concern" you've got to think about.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 03:30 PM

9. He is doing an outstanding job. His Twitter feed is one of

my first feeds I check each and every morning. I hope he stays safe.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 03:37 PM

10. Richard Engel has been reporting for years from

the most deadly places in the mid-East.

Trump bitches about the press. I'd like to see him spend one hour in some of the places where Engel has put his own life on the line.

Few can or would do what Engel does. He practices journalism at the most dangerous level.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 03:43 PM

11. He's heartbroken at what we've done, the progress that so many people

died for tragically abandoned, and the cascade of consequences that's only begun.

Unfortunately, the Americans who didn't vote against the Republicans in 2016 aren't the one who had to run for their lives with only what they could carry on their backs. They'll never see their homeland again, while those Americans who betrayed themselves, their nation and the world sleep well.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #11)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 05:29 PM

14. TrumPutin created a new trail of tears, just to enrich himself

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #14)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 05:44 PM

19. "A new trail of tears." Yes. But I don't think we know why yet.

No doubt he imagined he'd come out greater than great, but the imaginings of this disordered fool aren't reality. Analysts say he has a very long history of creating chaos around himself.

But as Nancy said, all his roads lead to Russia, and he's too disordered to be even a fraction that consistent on his own even if he wanted to.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #19)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 05:58 PM

21. I'll venture a guess:

On Trump's orders, the only American military left will be sent to guard the oil fields. See, it really does come down to "follow the money." Iraq deja vu all over.

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Response to cadaverdog (Reply #21)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 06:03 PM

23. Yes, but not his. Trump's not an oil man. Putin IS.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #19)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 06:36 PM

26. Trump Towers, Istanbul

Remember the call between Erdogan and Trump just before the tweet to withdraw? My bet is that Erdogan threatened to freeze or seize the revenues from those properties unless Trump got our troops out of the way.

Check #6:






(Rest of the 20 questions at https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212527554 )

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #26)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 06:41 PM

27. Yes, good stuff, especially from her.

But "all your roads lead to Putin." This is about Russian hegemony. Trump's attempts to please Putin, consistent for over 5 years in a man literally incapable of consistency on his own, started long before he took office. It seems likely Putin and others have been using the idea of hotels like bones waved at a dog already partially trained to obedience.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #27)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 08:23 PM

30. that makes sense

It could be Turkey waving a stick, and Putin waving a carrot. We know TrumPutin is all about himself, so the Kurds and our future played no role in his idiotic decision.

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #30)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 08:45 PM

31. Yes to that first. Though I wouldn't take malice and

narcissistic mania off the table. His actions regarding the Kurds are evil enough to be like those of the murderous dictators he admires.

He also famously believes in striking back twice as hard, and the American people have been "betraying" him big time. From the beginning I expected he would turn on the electorate, probably in a bunch of ways and in response to various events, including none just because he can. I think he has been pleasuring himself by hurting us already. How about the enormous Tax Heist? Our next annual payment on the taxpayers,' including his most loyal idiots', $1.6T "debt" to the wealthy will be auto-transferred come 2021.

It's easy to believe that as he rages in fear that he wants us to pay with a trail of tears right here.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 03:44 PM

12. The anger boils up, not for tRump, for his voters.

These people are despicable human beings.

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Response to ffr (Reply #12)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 05:26 PM

13. As bad as Trumps people are it's really Fox whose misinformation

campaign which created these ignorant pigs. Itís on Murdochs.

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Response to Pepsidog (Reply #13)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 05:58 PM

20. And Murdochs are dual citizens...

Not really patriotic if you ask me.

Here the wanna be new Nationalists are brainwashed daily by a globalist news org and they don't even know it!

Trump learned everything he knows from Roger Ailes Sp?

I believe all MSM played up Trump during 2016 even Morning Joe. Sometime around June 2016 the MSM split from support to critical reporting then CNN, MSNBC and NBC became Trumps enemies.

Trumps crime formula is like this... Lie and cover it up, threaten witnesses, when a bomshell is revealed against the admin, do something drastic to capture the news cycle, lie more, later admit to the lie and then say everyone does it. Wash, rinse, repeat.

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Response to MartyTheGreek (Reply #20)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 07:18 PM

29. Everything you write is true. I was reading about the baseball umpire who sent a tweet about Dems

conducting hearings in secrecy and how if Trump is impeached he will take his AR and defend Trump. I realized that this guy really believes that the Dems are conducting a secret impeachment hearing and has no notion that the Republicans are given equal time and that they wrote the rules back in 2015 because Fox never reports on the real news. Napoltano tried on Fox and Friends to say Dems are just following the rules set forth by Republicans but those fools brushed him off. So we have millions of people who are ready to take up arms because they see Dems as a threat and itís all because of Murdochs. Trump could not exist without Murdoch. Should Fox bail on Trump he is done, he will resign. I think itís Murdoch that Dems should try and publicly out and shame. The entire family needs to feel the heat of the mess they made of the country. And you are absolutely correct, the MSM has a huge role to play by legitimizing baseless rightwing nonsense like Biden and Ukraine.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 05:34 PM

15. Mass population transfer was a tactic that Saddam Hussein used, too. He moved the Kurds to make room

for Sunni Arabs.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 05:39 PM

16. Let's see if we can arrange for tRump to have to abandon Mar-a-Lago to pay debts. . . . nt

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 05:43 PM

17. Defining intrepid.

My admiration knows no bounds.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 05:44 PM

18. Richard Engel is extraordinary

There's no one quite like him.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 06:01 PM

22. He has been amazing

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 06:25 PM

24. Thanks to Richard Engel

A fantastic reporter and humanist.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 06:30 PM

25. Yes WHY DID dump start all this to begin with? I think we have some pretty good ideas. nt

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Thu Oct 24, 2019, 06:46 PM

28. Richard

Engel is a great reporter/journalist. He is angry about this betrayal and his reports are ever so needed.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 09:03 AM

32. The trump stain on our country will be all but impossible to clean

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Fri Oct 25, 2019, 01:41 PM

33. Richard Engel is a brave and patriotic correspondent of the finest kind

NBC has employed him for many years to cover the most dangerous places on earth.
Bravo Richard! Stay safe and come home in one piece.

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