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demmiblue

(36,845 posts)
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 03:46 PM Oct 2019

A shout-out to Richard Engel.

His reporting regarding the Kurds has been phenomenal. Thank you!





.@realDonaldTrump calling on the Kurdish people to head to Syria's "Oil Region" where they have never lived. He's saying Kurds should abandon their cities, farms and homes. Mass population transfer was a tactic Stalin often used, not one called for by modern American presidents.




Deeply upsetting the Kurds of Syria, who fought bravely against ISIS, lost so many -many still injured- now have to hide what they did, as Russia, Turkey and Assad forces will call them 'traitors,' blackmail and extort them. They will have to hide a proud history. Unfair. Wrong,




Tonight as the Kurdish people look up at the stars here in northern Syria, they have many big decisions to make. Where to send their families? Who can they trust? Can they reconcile with the Assad govenment? Can the trust Putin? And why Trump started all this mess to begin with.


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A shout-out to Richard Engel. (Original Post) demmiblue Oct 2019 OP
He was pissed. Says Kurds are being slaughtered by ISIS. spanone Oct 2019 #1
He is SPITTIN MAD Leghorn21 Oct 2019 #2
Local channels are shutting him out. Iliyah Oct 2019 #3
I hate local news. Boomerproud Oct 2019 #7
I worry about him... Mike Nelson Oct 2019 #4
good for him renate Oct 2019 #5
He's amazing wryter2000 Oct 2019 #6
Take what Mike Nelson said..above... albacore Oct 2019 #8
He is doing an outstanding job. His Twitter feed is one of dewsgirl Oct 2019 #9
Richard Engel has been reporting for years from Cyrano Oct 2019 #10
He's heartbroken at what we've done, the progress that so many people Hortensis Oct 2019 #11
TrumPutin created a new trail of tears, just to enrich himself Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #14
"A new trail of tears." Yes. But I don't think we know why yet. Hortensis Oct 2019 #19
I'll venture a guess: cadaverdog Oct 2019 #21
Yes, but not his. Trump's not an oil man. Putin IS. Hortensis Oct 2019 #23
Trump Towers, Istanbul Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #26
Yes, good stuff, especially from her. Hortensis Oct 2019 #27
that makes sense Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #30
Yes to that first. Though I wouldn't take malice and Hortensis Oct 2019 #31
The anger boils up, not for tRump, for his voters. ffr Oct 2019 #12
As bad as Trumps people are it's really Fox whose misinformation Pepsidog Oct 2019 #13
And Murdochs are dual citizens... MartyTheGreek Oct 2019 #20
Everything you write is true. I was reading about the baseball umpire who sent a tweet about Dems Pepsidog Oct 2019 #29
Mass population transfer was a tactic that Saddam Hussein used, too. He moved the Kurds to make room Nitram Oct 2019 #15
Let's see if we can arrange for tRump to have to abandon Mar-a-Lago to pay debts. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2019 #16
Defining intrepid. dchill Oct 2019 #17
Richard Engel is extraordinary PatSeg Oct 2019 #18
He has been amazing mcar Oct 2019 #22
Thanks to Richard Engel flamingdem Oct 2019 #24
Yes WHY DID dump start all this to begin with? I think we have some pretty good ideas. nt UniteFightBack Oct 2019 #25
Richard bdamomma Oct 2019 #28
The trump stain on our country will be all but impossible to clean UpInArms Oct 2019 #32
Richard Engel is a brave and patriotic correspondent of the finest kind FakeNoose Oct 2019 #33

albacore

(2,398 posts)
8. Take what Mike Nelson said..above...
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 04:14 PM
Oct 2019

.... and add that I worry about him being in war zones ALL the time.
It's not the one with your name on it; it's the one addressed "to whom it may concern" you've got to think about.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
9. He is doing an outstanding job. His Twitter feed is one of
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 04:30 PM
Oct 2019

my first feeds I check each and every morning. I hope he stays safe.

Cyrano

(15,035 posts)
10. Richard Engel has been reporting for years from
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 04:37 PM
Oct 2019

the most deadly places in the mid-East.

Trump bitches about the press. I'd like to see him spend one hour in some of the places where Engel has put his own life on the line.

Few can or would do what Engel does. He practices journalism at the most dangerous level.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. He's heartbroken at what we've done, the progress that so many people
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 04:43 PM
Oct 2019

died for tragically abandoned, and the cascade of consequences that's only begun.

Unfortunately, the Americans who didn't vote against the Republicans in 2016 aren't the one who had to run for their lives with only what they could carry on their backs. They'll never see their homeland again, while those Americans who betrayed themselves, their nation and the world sleep well.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. "A new trail of tears." Yes. But I don't think we know why yet.
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 06:44 PM
Oct 2019

No doubt he imagined he'd come out greater than great, but the imaginings of this disordered fool aren't reality. Analysts say he has a very long history of creating chaos around himself.

But as Nancy said, all his roads lead to Russia, and he's too disordered to be even a fraction that consistent on his own even if he wanted to.

cadaverdog

(228 posts)
21. I'll venture a guess:
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 06:58 PM
Oct 2019

On Trump's orders, the only American military left will be sent to guard the oil fields. See, it really does come down to "follow the money." Iraq deja vu all over.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,339 posts)
26. Trump Towers, Istanbul
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 07:36 PM
Oct 2019

Remember the call between Erdogan and Trump just before the tweet to withdraw? My bet is that Erdogan threatened to freeze or seize the revenues from those properties unless Trump got our troops out of the way.

Check #6:






(Rest of the 20 questions at https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212527554 )

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. Yes, good stuff, especially from her.
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 07:41 PM
Oct 2019

But "all your roads lead to Putin." This is about Russian hegemony. Trump's attempts to please Putin, consistent for over 5 years in a man literally incapable of consistency on his own, started long before he took office. It seems likely Putin and others have been using the idea of hotels like bones waved at a dog already partially trained to obedience.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,339 posts)
30. that makes sense
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 09:23 PM
Oct 2019

It could be Turkey waving a stick, and Putin waving a carrot. We know TrumPutin is all about himself, so the Kurds and our future played no role in his idiotic decision.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
31. Yes to that first. Though I wouldn't take malice and
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 09:45 PM
Oct 2019

narcissistic mania off the table. His actions regarding the Kurds are evil enough to be like those of the murderous dictators he admires.

He also famously believes in striking back twice as hard, and the American people have been "betraying" him big time. From the beginning I expected he would turn on the electorate, probably in a bunch of ways and in response to various events, including none just because he can. I think he has been pleasuring himself by hurting us already. How about the enormous Tax Heist? Our next annual payment on the taxpayers,' including his most loyal idiots', $1.6T "debt" to the wealthy will be auto-transferred come 2021.

It's easy to believe that as he rages in fear that he wants us to pay with a trail of tears right here.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
13. As bad as Trumps people are it's really Fox whose misinformation
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 06:26 PM
Oct 2019

campaign which created these ignorant pigs. It’s on Murdochs.

MartyTheGreek

(565 posts)
20. And Murdochs are dual citizens...
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 06:58 PM
Oct 2019

Not really patriotic if you ask me.

Here the wanna be new Nationalists are brainwashed daily by a globalist news org and they don't even know it!

Trump learned everything he knows from Roger Ailes Sp?

I believe all MSM played up Trump during 2016 even Morning Joe. Sometime around June 2016 the MSM split from support to critical reporting then CNN, MSNBC and NBC became Trumps enemies.

Trumps crime formula is like this... Lie and cover it up, threaten witnesses, when a bomshell is revealed against the admin, do something drastic to capture the news cycle, lie more, later admit to the lie and then say everyone does it. Wash, rinse, repeat.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
29. Everything you write is true. I was reading about the baseball umpire who sent a tweet about Dems
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 08:18 PM
Oct 2019

conducting hearings in secrecy and how if Trump is impeached he will take his AR and defend Trump. I realized that this guy really believes that the Dems are conducting a secret impeachment hearing and has no notion that the Republicans are given equal time and that they wrote the rules back in 2015 because Fox never reports on the real news. Napoltano tried on Fox and Friends to say Dems are just following the rules set forth by Republicans but those fools brushed him off. So we have millions of people who are ready to take up arms because they see Dems as a threat and it’s all because of Murdochs. Trump could not exist without Murdoch. Should Fox bail on Trump he is done, he will resign. I think it’s Murdoch that Dems should try and publicly out and shame. The entire family needs to feel the heat of the mess they made of the country. And you are absolutely correct, the MSM has a huge role to play by legitimizing baseless rightwing nonsense like Biden and Ukraine.

Nitram

(22,794 posts)
15. Mass population transfer was a tactic that Saddam Hussein used, too. He moved the Kurds to make room
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 06:34 PM
Oct 2019

for Sunni Arabs.

bdamomma

(63,845 posts)
28. Richard
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 07:46 PM
Oct 2019

Engel is a great reporter/journalist. He is angry about this betrayal and his reports are ever so needed.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
33. Richard Engel is a brave and patriotic correspondent of the finest kind
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 02:41 PM
Oct 2019

NBC has employed him for many years to cover the most dangerous places on earth.
Bravo Richard! Stay safe and come home in one piece.

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