Mitt Romney is making a play

[mac2766]

The GOP is looking for a way to get their man elected. His objections to Trump are simply a ploy to set him up for the 2020 election. Once Trump is ousted, he's in position to boast that he was the one that objected to the demon Trump.

Romney need not be president.

[yardwork]

1. He's lost once already.

[50 Shades Of Blue]

2. And how will Trumpers feel about that?

[BeyondGeography]

3. Record low turnout for their side if it works out

They hate him.

Go Mitt.

[VarryOn]

4. Trump has warped our senses...

Romney = Bush (either one) = McCain = Nixon = Trump = the next Republican nominee or president

Styles may be different but they are all the same.

[alittlelark]

5. Yeah....

And Paul Ryan just moved back to DC.

[OAITW r.2.0]

6. Hopefully!

Cuz, in 2020 Mitt will lose the TrumpChumps who will morph into the Never Mitters! Thus ending GOP has a cohesive electoral force.

[exboyfil]

7. Sure the country is ready for another plutocrat

He may find the going hard. The Trumpers also may take their ball and go home. You will also have an all out war with Pence.

[RockRaven]

8. White Horse Prophecy

If the GOP does ditch Trump, and Romney plays a key role in that, it will be interesting to see how the evangelicals react in light of the question of whether or not a Mormon prophecy is valid and coming true. Romney will down-play it, of course, because there is no upside for him in poking at them, but other Mormons won't be so quiet, and that might make other fundies rather uncomfortable.

[Tumbulu]

14. What is this prophecy?

[RockRaven]

16. In 1 post headline: "Some day an LDS will save the Constitution & America, so sez Joe Jr, Prophet!"

but like anything theological it is much, much messier.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Horse_Prophecy



Anyhow, Romney has distanced himself from it in exactly the way one would expect a smarmy, calculating, disingenuous politician to do so. Mormons, and moreso ex-Mormons, confirm that despite the official position that this is not LDS Church doctrine anymore, it is still widely taught and believed -- but also taught NOT TO TALK ABOUT IT TO OUTSIDERS.

So my curiosity/question is regarding this: how will evangelicals/fundie Xians react to the prospect of Romney being the post-Trump GOP savior/figurehead when the context is that supporting Romney would be an affirmation of a Mormon prophecy, the fulfillment of which would lend credence to the notion that it was a true prophecy and Mormonism is true. Do they care more about their fundie Xianity or their GOP fealty?

[FreeState]

18. Exmormon here

It is not nor has it ever been widely taught in my lifetime (I’m 50ish).

[FreeState]

17. It's not real

More of a faith promoting rumor.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Horse_Prophecy


Smith's supposed original statement predicts that the US Constitution will one day "hang like a thread" but be saved by Latter-day Saints. The embellished version portrays it to be "by the efforts of the White Horse."

[RockRaven]

23. Your experience is not the universal one.

Here is a reddit thread where this very question is addressed:

https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/y2hto/white_horse_prophecy_is_it_really_a_thing/

As you can see, results vary, but everyone else did not have your experience.

Likewise, there are also a shit-load of articles, podcasts, blogs, you tube videos and the like about this from ex-Mo's and never-Mo's which contain eyewitness evidence from people who were taught that this was true.

[FreeState]

24. Hmmm

My family goes all the way back to the beginning. Yes you can find people talking about it but I can 99% guarantee you would never hear about it in official Church publications or lessons or over the pulpit. Many of those on Reddit are repeating things that were faith promoting rumors in Utah or new information they just discovered.

Martin Harris was my 4th great grandfather and one of my others was Brigham Young’s personal secretary (and first British convert). No one in my family would claim the white horse prophecy is doctrine or that it’s taught in the current church.

[RockRaven]

25. You're related to Smarty Marty Harris? Congrats!!!

You're still hung up on your experience, and discounting what other people experience and testify to.

But whatever, for the purposes of furthering the convo, let's assume that there's No True White-Horseman.

Even if you want to say those eyewitnesses are lying, or exaggerating, or misguided, or ignorant, or whatever, none of that is relevant to the point that these people *say these things publicly* -- and I ain't the only person who has heard them. Evangelicals hear this stuff too.

So back to my original question/point: how are the evangelicals going to react to an LDS coming in and playing the hero when the Constitution is hanging by a thread, in the context of this totally-not-a-prophecy-nor-widely-believed-yet-definitely-out-there-in-the-media thing?

[KentuckyWoman]

9. Please proceed.

I cannot read his name, see his pic etc without thinking of that.

Poor Mitt.

[babylonsister]

10. To get their man elected?

Seems to me they're already standing by their man. And I certainly haven't heard hallelujahs heading Mitt's way.

[dweller]

11. DELECTO / DEPLORABLE 2020

yeh, i can see that bumper sticker



✌🏼

[herding cats]

12. Even a blind man can see this one unfolding.

Which in this case means Trump. Trump is already doing his best to smear Romney to the point he's despised by his base. He's livid at the thought of Romney being his successor.

[Doodley]

13. Romney would be a million times better than Trump.

[Tumbulu]

15. And if the Democratic nominee is too "liberal"

for many in the middle, and it is between a far left candidate and Romney, Romney may very well win. I am left of center and I find myself thinking” what was so awful about Romney?” Simply because T is such an outrage in every sense of the word. How would center and center right people vote?

[keithbvadu2]

19. Donald says Mitt is "human scum". Haven't seen many repubs refute that.

Donald says Mitt is "human scum".

Haven't seen many repubs refute that.

[marlakay]

20. Was talking to a guy in my wine class today

He is convinced they are going to get rid of Trump and Pence and that Romney will win because they will call all of our people socialists.

Trump makes Romney seem normal.

[Garrett78]

22. A Republican can't win if he/she has alienated Cult45.

[rockfordfile]

21. He's keeping the door open

[Srkdqltr]

26. I hope he isn't.

The man is seriously creepy.

[democratisphere]

27. Romney will position himself as the savior of the rethuglicon political party.

THIS idea will be very enticing to rethuglicons after drumpf is impeached and removed from office.

[flor-de-jasmim]

28. Didn't Mitt claim HE was the chosen one a few years back??

[lunasun]

29. Big $$ needs it's man in the WH - will he run again with the other coin worshipper granny killer?