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Tue Oct 15, 2019, 02:14 PM

trump just gave ISIS nuclear weapons.

Turkey is releasing ISIS fighters as they advance.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/10/14/1892405/-U-S-military-keeps-50-nuclear-weapons-on-Turkish-airbase-Now-they-re-Erdogan-s-hostages

The chaos resulting from Donald Trump's seemingly out-of-the-blue decision to withdraw U.S. troops from their positions in Kurdish-held Syria, greenlighting an all-out Turkish invasion, continues to grow. Trump's move was so precipitous that U.S. forces in the region were caught completely unaware. That includes U.S. nuclear forces.

As reported by The New York Times: "[O]ver the weekend, State and Energy Department officials were quietly reviewing plans for evacuating roughly 50 tactical nuclear weapons that the United States had long stored, under American control, at Incirlik Air Base in Turkey."

They didn't move them, the Times reports. "Those weapons, one senior official said, were now essentially Erdogan's hostages."

What happens to those 50 nuclear weapons now is a bit dicey. Turkish forces have been firing at U.S. troops in Syria—or were, until Trump responded by ordering a full retreat, fleeing the Turkish advance. There is word that Turkish-allied forces have been releasing ISIS prisoners as they advance, as well. U.S. military officials now have to decide whether to leave the nuclear weapons in Turkey, under the assumption that U.S.-Turkish relations will not collapse completely in coming days, or hastily fly them out.

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Response to 5X (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 02:19 PM

1. Um....fly them out. nt

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Response to chowder66 (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 02:28 PM

6. Its too late, they have already left. n/t

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Response to 5X (Reply #6)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 02:40 PM

7. To where? nt

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Response to 5X (Reply #6)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 03:06 PM

9. No changes at Incirlik Air Base in Turkey

RE: No changes at base
https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2019/10/14/with-turkeys-invasion-of-syria-concerns-mount-over-nukes-at-incirlik/

Where those weapons could go after being removed from Turkey is a different thorny question. Given deep-seated European skepticism of American intentions at the moment, accepting a nuclear deployment under a Trump president would kick off a political hurricane—one that each NATO member nation is eager to avoid. But as Turkey expert Aaron Stein notes, the U.S.’s oldest NATO-deployed B61s, including those at Incirlik, were slated for upgrades and maintenance, for which the weapons would rotate out to the United States, likely the Pantex nuclear assembly plant in West Texas. (The bombs are due to receive a new “tail kit assembly” as part of planned modernization to increase their “precision.”) This upgrade has been considerably delayed, but the bombs might need to come home sooner than planned.

https://newrepublic.com/article/155381/us-nuclear-bombs-still-turkey

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Response to 5X (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 02:19 PM

2. Putin's goal

of hurling the planet in to complete chaos is being achieved.

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Response to 5X (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 02:22 PM

3. .."chaos resulting from Donald Trump's seemingly out-of-the-blue decision to withdraw U.S. troops.."



Originally posted by DUer Dennis Donovan

“I KNOW MORE THAN THE GENERALS” - LOSER45, 2016

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Response to 5X (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 02:25 PM

4. Well, what could go wrong? The stable genius will do a deal for sure. That's what could go wrong.

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Response to 5X (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 02:26 PM

5. Load them up and fly them to Greece.

We have a major base on the island of Crete.

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Response to 5X (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 02:41 PM

8. We have been wanting to move those weapons for years.

Some of this might be about finally doing that. While there was a lot of pressure from the media to remove them in 2016, we may not have had the diplomatic cover to do so back then.

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Response to 5X (Original post)

Tue Oct 15, 2019, 03:12 PM

10. i suspect they'll show up in Pittsburgh or Detroit sometime next summer

cos nothing beats a high-casualty terrorist attack in an urban center for riling up the nationalists and depressing liberal turnout

Trump needs a boost in the polls to keep his ass on the golf course and out of prison, so i fully expect him to reach for one whether it works or not

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