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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumstrump just gave ISIS nuclear weapons.
Turkey is releasing ISIS fighters as they advance.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/10/14/1892405/-U-S-military-keeps-50-nuclear-weapons-on-Turkish-airbase-Now-they-re-Erdogan-s-hostages
The chaos resulting from Donald Trump's seemingly out-of-the-blue decision to withdraw U.S. troops from their positions in Kurdish-held Syria, greenlighting an all-out Turkish invasion, continues to grow. Trump's move was so precipitous that U.S. forces in the region were caught completely unaware. That includes U.S. nuclear forces.
As reported by The New York Times: "[O]ver the weekend, State and Energy Department officials were quietly reviewing plans for evacuating roughly 50 tactical nuclear weapons that the United States had long stored, under American control, at Incirlik Air Base in Turkey."
They didn't move them, the Times reports. "Those weapons, one senior official said, were now essentially Erdogan's hostages."
What happens to those 50 nuclear weapons now is a bit dicey. Turkish forces have been firing at U.S. troops in Syriaor were, until Trump responded by ordering a full retreat, fleeing the Turkish advance. There is word that Turkish-allied forces have been releasing ISIS prisoners as they advance, as well. U.S. military officials now have to decide whether to leave the nuclear weapons in Turkey, under the assumption that U.S.-Turkish relations will not collapse completely in coming days, or hastily fly them out.
chowder66
(9,067 posts)5X
(3,972 posts)sarisataka
(18,633 posts)chowder66
(9,067 posts)RE: No changes at base
https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2019/10/14/with-turkeys-invasion-of-syria-concerns-mount-over-nukes-at-incirlik/
Where those weapons could go after being removed from Turkey is a different thorny question. Given deep-seated European skepticism of American intentions at the moment, accepting a nuclear deployment under a Trump president would kick off a political hurricaneone that each NATO member nation is eager to avoid. But as Turkey expert Aaron Stein notes, the U.S.s oldest NATO-deployed B61s, including those at Incirlik, were slated for upgrades and maintenance, for which the weapons would rotate out to the United States, likely the Pantex nuclear assembly plant in West Texas. (The bombs are due to receive a new tail kit assembly as part of planned modernization to increase their precision.) This upgrade has been considerably delayed, but the bombs might need to come home sooner than planned.
https://newrepublic.com/article/155381/us-nuclear-bombs-still-turkey
MontanaMama
(23,313 posts)of hurling the planet in to complete chaos is being achieved.
Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)Originally posted by DUer Dennis Donovan
I KNOW MORE THAN THE GENERALS - LOSER45, 2016
BSdetect
(8,998 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)We have a major base on the island of Crete.
braddy
(3,585 posts)Some of this might be about finally doing that. While there was a lot of pressure from the media to remove them in 2016, we may not have had the diplomatic cover to do so back then.
0rganism
(23,944 posts)cos nothing beats a high-casualty terrorist attack in an urban center for riling up the nationalists and depressing liberal turnout
Trump needs a boost in the polls to keep his ass on the golf course and out of prison, so i fully expect him to reach for one whether it works or not