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jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 03:15 PM Oct 2019

Minor point - 2/3 of the Senate is not required to convict

6: The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

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"Two thirds of the members present".

I would strongly suggest that, in the event of Impeachment, that GOP senators be encouraged to refuse to attend as a protest against the sham of a travesty or a witch hunt, or whatever.

Some of them might miss their flights, oversleep... who knows.

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Minor point - 2/3 of the Senate is not required to convict (Original Post) jberryhill Oct 2019 OP
good point NewJeffCT Oct 2019 #1
Just put a sign outside the Senate chamber that says "Closed for Ebola" Moostache Oct 2019 #2
nah, just put up a sign that says Transgender Bathroom qazplm135 Oct 2019 #4
. jberryhill Oct 2019 #9
OK, that's really, really good! dchill Oct 2019 #27
poifect! Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #14
Oh MY! Roland99 Oct 2019 #20
LOL, hair splitter. maxsolomon Oct 2019 #3
Need a quorum. djg21 Oct 2019 #5
How many non-Democrats to make quorum? TrogL Oct 2019 #29
There are 45 Democrats, 2 Independents and 53 Trump Party members jmowreader Oct 2019 #31
You see, that's why we need lawyers PJMcK Oct 2019 #6
Couldn't be sure they would support it if it was secret vote. LiberalFighter Oct 2019 #17
Not voting at all is almost as good as an anonymous vote. Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #7
51, as I understand it. 11 Bravo Oct 2019 #16
Mcconnell can say his hands were tied and he had to hold a vote immediately. Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #38
How long can they postpone the vote? miyazaki Oct 2019 #8
what is the rule on what constitutes a quorum? hlthe2b Oct 2019 #10
51 jberryhill Oct 2019 #11
Well, now, that is intriguing. hlthe2b Oct 2019 #12
Gives them a way out of a difficult vote. elleng Oct 2019 #13
we should encourage them to stay home ... Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2019 #15
Maybe they could "protest" by staying home... tinrobot Oct 2019 #35
Some of the Republicans should go on strike. LiberalFighter Oct 2019 #18
Interesting. honest.abe Oct 2019 #19
Yep, they can suddenly find that they have to wash their socks jberryhill Oct 2019 #21
Hold a Trump Appreciation Celebration and when the Republicans flock to it. take the vote. Midnight Writer Oct 2019 #22
Yes and how about trying to knock some of them out for prejudging the case. I know it's a stretch.. Pepsidog Oct 2019 #23
Got Moscow Mitch dead to rights on that one. dchill Oct 2019 #25
Could they theoretically be forced to recuse for a conflict of interest meadowlander Oct 2019 #32
Good question. Not sure if they could be conflicted out for any reason. Beyond my Pepsidog Oct 2019 #39
See? The Devil really IS in the details! dchill Oct 2019 #24
Yes and how about trying to knock some of them out for prejudging the case. I know it's a stretch.. Pepsidog Oct 2019 #26
K&R...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 spanone Oct 2019 #28
How about an outing with Mark Sanford? Thunderbeast Oct 2019 #30
Wonderful! FM123 Oct 2019 #33
So let's plan for a Thanksgiving or Christmas present krispos42 Oct 2019 #34
knowing moscow mitch.... getagrip_already Oct 2019 #36
Or sprout at least a cartlidge version of a spine... who knows William Seger Oct 2019 #37

Moostache

(9,919 posts)
2. Just put a sign outside the Senate chamber that says "Closed for Ebola"
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 03:24 PM
Oct 2019

That would make them all scurry away real quick...

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
4. nah, just put up a sign that says Transgender Bathroom
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 03:27 PM
Oct 2019

they will congregate outside of it with cameras to protest like bees to a big ol flower.

maxsolomon

(33,620 posts)
3. LOL, hair splitter.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 03:24 PM
Oct 2019

That'd be a hilarious way for Trump to go down: all the GOP "moderates" simply not showing up for the vote, and 49 Dems being enough to constitute 2/3.

26 Repukes would need to oversleep. R-Money is 1.

Wish in one hand...

 

djg21

(1,803 posts)
5. Need a quorum.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 03:29 PM
Oct 2019

Article I, section 5 of the Constitution requires that a quorum (51 senators) be present for the Senate to conduct business. Often, fewer than 51 senators are present on the floor, but the Senate presumes a quorum unless a roll call vote or quorum call suggests otherwise

jmowreader

(50,708 posts)
31. There are 45 Democrats, 2 Independents and 53 Trump Party members
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 06:00 PM
Oct 2019

So, four Trump Party members will be enough to get the ball rolling...

PJMcK

(22,166 posts)
6. You see, that's why we need lawyers
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 03:29 PM
Oct 2019

There are always details that the layman will miss.

Thanks for the clarity, sir.

I like the idea that the Senate could hold the impeachment trial and then vote in secret. You know that the majority of the Republicans would vote to convict if they didn't have to own their votes.

As always, you're a voice of clarity... and humor.

LiberalFighter

(52,119 posts)
17. Couldn't be sure they would support it if it was secret vote.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 04:24 PM
Oct 2019

At least with their vote on the record then they can't deny it with their constituents.

 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
38. Mcconnell can say his hands were tied and he had to hold a vote immediately.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 06:57 PM
Oct 2019

I doubt moscow mitch would do anything of the sort, though...

Hermit-The-Prog

(34,083 posts)
15. we should encourage them to stay home ...
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 04:15 PM
Oct 2019

Let Moscow Mitch and Leningrad Lindsey be the only, token, Russiapublican "Nyet!" votes.

The rest can express outrage, from a distance, that the Democrats even brought articles of impeachment.

tinrobot

(10,980 posts)
35. Maybe they could "protest" by staying home...
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 06:09 PM
Oct 2019

We could give them pearls to clutch while they watch the vote on CSPAN.

Midnight Writer

(22,093 posts)
22. Hold a Trump Appreciation Celebration and when the Republicans flock to it. take the vote.
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 04:36 PM
Oct 2019

In Wisconsin, Republicans called a recess, and as soon as the Democrats left the room, immediately reconvened and passed their bill.

meadowlander

(4,425 posts)
32. Could they theoretically be forced to recuse for a conflict of interest
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 06:03 PM
Oct 2019

if it was shown that they took NRA money linked to Russia?

Pepsidog

(6,258 posts)
39. Good question. Not sure if they could be conflicted out for any reason. Beyond my
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 06:59 PM
Oct 2019

knowledge but I would guess there is no precedent for excluding a member of the Senate from sitting as a juror in an impeachment proceeding. I wonder if before the trial begins the senators have to take an oath beyond their original oath.

Pepsidog

(6,258 posts)
26. Yes and how about trying to knock some of them out for prejudging the case. I know it's a stretch..
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 05:25 PM
Oct 2019

And what about their oath to listen to the evidence and discharge their constitutional duty.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
34. So let's plan for a Thanksgiving or Christmas present
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 06:07 PM
Oct 2019

Considering how many dick moves state level Repubs do with surprise votes (Wisconsin, Texas, and Virginia come to mind) then hold a surprise removal vote 5am Christmas morning.

getagrip_already

(15,325 posts)
36. knowing moscow mitch....
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 06:15 PM
Oct 2019

He will wait for all the dems to leave for recess or for the night and then hold a flash vote with only repugs present. Think NC state senate.

See, trump had a unanimous vote to not comvict!

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