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kpete

(71,996 posts)
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 11:11 AM Oct 2019

Rick Perry says Trump telling lies about him.

According to one source, Trump said words to the effect of: "Not a lot of people know this but, I didn't even want to make the call. The only reason I made the call was because Rick asked me to. Something about an LNG [liquified natural gas] plant," and the other two sources agreed with that recollection, Axios reported.

But on Friday, Perry -- the Republican former governor of Texas who has served as energy secretary since March 2017 -- told the Christian Broadcasting Network in an exclusive interview that his dealings in Ukraine were part of a U.S. effort to help clean up corruption there, but the Bidens’ names never came up during his discussions with Trump administration officials.

“I never heard, and I talked to the president about this,” Perry told the Christian network. “I had a conversation with - a phone call - with [Trump attorney] Rudy Guiliani about it. I've talked to the previous [U.S.] ambassador [to Ukraine]. I've talked to the current ambassador.

“I’ve talked to Kurt Volker, Gordan Sondland, the EU ambassador, every name that you've seen out in the media, and not once, not once as God is my witness, not once was a Biden name -- not the former vice president, not his son -- ever mentioned.

............


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rick-perry-denies-discussing-bidens-with-trump-or-ukraine-officials-reports

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Rick Perry says Trump telling lies about him. (Original Post) kpete Oct 2019 OP
Rick, you did one good thing in your time as a politician. blogslut Oct 2019 #1
Exactly H2O Man Oct 2019 #8
DUzy! CrispyQ Oct 2019 #12
Lol .... blm Oct 2019 #13
Didn't seem to bother the Ricster when Moron lied about others. sarge43 Oct 2019 #34
Sorry for Rick Perry? tavalon Oct 2019 #59
Perfect mountain grammy Oct 2019 #18
I am laughing out loud Mira Oct 2019 #26
Good one! MuseRider Oct 2019 #35
+1 dalton99a Oct 2019 #16
If Trump tells lies about you, Rick, get revenge by telling the TRUTH about him. nt tblue37 Oct 2019 #2
Rick, meet bus wheels... forgotmylogin Oct 2019 #22
"We're raising the background noise level and muddying the waters so you can't think!" struggle4progress Oct 2019 #3
This is exactly their strategy. dewsgirl Oct 2019 #6
This is a constant with tRump and his cabal. KPN Oct 2019 #29
Wow, Rick, did you major in English? flibbitygiblets Oct 2019 #4
Perry was too busy trying to steal Ukraine energy for his cronies MaryMagdaline Oct 2019 #5
Mr Perry has learned a lesson: Trump betrays everyone around him, sooner or later... First Speaker Oct 2019 #7
Except for Betsy... Hugin Oct 2019 #10
Yeah, except. WinstonSmith4740 Oct 2019 #15
Russia Closes In On Crimea's Energy Resources struggle4progress Oct 2019 #9
If true, does Rick Perry have the political capital to take this on? Buckeyeblue Oct 2019 #11
No, he does not lonely bird Oct 2019 #14
it's his word against limbaugh's and the 1500 radio stations that will echo it certainot Oct 2019 #17
Kick dalton99a Oct 2019 #19
Rick is an idiot Lithos Oct 2019 #20
You must live or have lived in Texas Javaman Oct 2019 #36
Yep Lithos Oct 2019 #46
HAHAHAHAHA. ChiTownDenny Oct 2019 #21
he's lying of course.... getagrip_already Oct 2019 #23
Exactly. nt SunSeeker Oct 2019 #24
Yes, you got it. I don't know why so many posts here are praising him LiberalLovinLug Oct 2019 #37
Whew Ohiogal Oct 2019 #53
Perry's not willing to go down with Trump on this Biden thing. patphil Oct 2019 #25
aka it's dark here under this bus 0rganism Oct 2019 #27
Let's get Perry under oath in front of the inquiry hearing beachbumbob Oct 2019 #28
Let's see your tax returns and banking info Rick! SCVDem Oct 2019 #30
as God as my witness I thought Turkeys could fly Botany Oct 2019 #31
The rats are not willing to be the fall guy peggysue2 Oct 2019 #32
"Not a lot of people know this" one of many of Trump's tells. Pepsidog Oct 2019 #33
Or 'I've talked to many people' or 'Many people I've talked to', etc. rump is such a f**king liar.. SWBTATTReg Oct 2019 #41
Or the Fox News/Trump/GOP/Rush "some people say" Botany Oct 2019 #45
I agree...the old republican party has been hijacked and not a damn one of the ... SWBTATTReg Oct 2019 #49
Remember the eight republicans who spent July 4, 2018 in Moscow visiting Vlad and company? Botany Oct 2019 #58
Yes, I do remember this and I never heard a reasonable explanation as to why they were there, SWBTATTReg Oct 2019 #60
The name Red Square Republicans came from the .. Botany Oct 2019 #61
Rick, he's been lying about you as far back as when he said you were fit for a Cabinet post JHB Oct 2019 #38
Yeah, I read somewhere that when Perry was tapped for Energy, PatrickforO Oct 2019 #42
Exactly! Small wonder so many red states are poor in every sense of the word. Doitnow Oct 2019 #47
Idiot walked right into this whole mess by associating w/ the rump trainwreck. Deserves it. ... SWBTATTReg Oct 2019 #39
This is really very funny. Trump is flailing around throwing PatrickforO Oct 2019 #40
Quelle surprise. malthaussen Oct 2019 #43
Perry's having another "oops" moment. ooky Oct 2019 #44
So he goes on some softball Christian outlet to truth tell??? ffr Oct 2019 #48
I needed a good laugh, after seeing Senator Johnson on meet the press. StTimofEdenRoc Oct 2019 #50
Hey Rick! While you're down there, check those tie-rod ends and u-joints! ret5hd Oct 2019 #51
One doesn't know which liar to believe. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2019 #52
Perry is just lying duforsure Oct 2019 #54
Oh gosh . . . . Iliyah Oct 2019 #55
Why is perry bringing up the bidens? Midnightwalk Oct 2019 #56
Poor lil' Ricky... not the brightest bulb in the pack!! Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #57

blogslut

(38,002 posts)
1. Rick, you did one good thing in your time as a politician.
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 11:15 AM
Oct 2019

You pardoned 35 wrongly convicted citizens in Tulia.

Now's your chance to do a second good thing.

blm

(113,064 posts)
13. Lol ....
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 11:32 AM
Oct 2019

Made me even feel a wee bit sorry for the dude.

But, every one of these Republicans are stuck laying in bed with Trump now as he pisses and shits all over that bed.

MuseRider

(34,111 posts)
35. Good one!
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 01:17 PM
Oct 2019

Actually perfect. He will be forever remembered for that oops. His history is sealed in many ways by that oops. It makes me laugh every time. Good one.

KPN

(15,646 posts)
29. This is a constant with tRump and his cabal.
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 01:08 PM
Oct 2019

Confuse you with an overload of conflicting statements, competing scandals, and general constant bullshittery from every possible angle ... and source. It’s too frigging much to process!

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
7. Mr Perry has learned a lesson: Trump betrays everyone around him, sooner or later...
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 11:25 AM
Oct 2019

...absolutely everyone. He'd throw Ivanka or Donald Jr off a cliff if it would help him in the slightest. His cabinet? I doubt Trump even regards them as fellow human beings. He certainly hasn't a smidgen of loyalty to them...

Hugin

(33,162 posts)
10. Except for Betsy...
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 11:28 AM
Oct 2019

'cuz she's got the moneyz.

Moneyz good.

The Trumpenstein Monster lovez the moneyz.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
15. Yeah, except.
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 12:36 PM
Oct 2019

Like every other member of the top .5%, she'll also want to KEEP that money. She won't give it to a fraud. But then again, she's not the brightest bulb in the pack, so she might actually believe him.

struggle4progress

(118,294 posts)
9. Russia Closes In On Crimea's Energy Resources
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 11:27 AM
Oct 2019

Feb 28, 2019, 08:59am
Ariel Cohen

... The Ukrainian Energy Ministry reports that "Ukraine has lost 80% of oil and gas deposits in the Black Sea and a significant part of the port infrastructure due to the annexation of Crimea” ...

The real story here, however, is the gas.

There are nine so-called “blocks” of natural gas available for licensing in Ukraine’s Black Sea ...

Major international energy conglomerates have noticed Ukraine’s energy potential before. U.S Energy Secretary Rick Perry called the country the “Texas of Europe” ...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/arielcohen/2019/02/28/as-russia-closes-in-on-crimeas-energy-resources-what-is-next-for-ukraine/#22696e3729cd

lonely bird

(1,685 posts)
14. No, he does not
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 12:34 PM
Oct 2019

The base is not concerned about truth. They are only concerned about Trump stoking their emotions. And the base is running the party. Perry will be outside looking in.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
17. it's his word against limbaugh's and the 1500 radio stations that will echo it
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 12:38 PM
Oct 2019

it's just one more excuse/diversion for the trump basse to pick and choose from to help them deny the obvious

that's the authoritarian mind addled by sex on the wrong brain

every time they deny it requires use of the creative side of the brain to rationalize it, and that's when a packet of the trapped sex energy escapes to the pleasure centers

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
20. Rick is an idiot
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 12:52 PM
Oct 2019

Rick is a weak personality - a useful idiot for those around him. He is a corrupt politician, not a corrupt mobster.

To be honest, he has never shown the ability to handle the type of strong personality and crudeness needed to serve as the strong arm of the mob. Yes, he's a crook and corrupt, but not this way.

I actually believe him in this case. Such a world.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
36. You must live or have lived in Texas
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 01:18 PM
Oct 2019

I’m in Austin for 26 years and have lived through moron gov after another. And as stupid as geirge w. Moron* was/is, perry is perhaps the most fucking stupid person ever.

He’s is nothing more than the typical opportunistic mailable repuke moron, that those behind the scene, parade out as there new flavor of the month. Perry, however, wouldn’t have gotten as far as he did if it wasn’t for his superpower of knowing which way the wind blows and how to make the best use of that change for his own benefit.

A Political opportunist that will sell out or blame the first person other than himself for his own fuck ups. He’s Benedict Donald lite.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
46. Yep
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 01:43 PM
Oct 2019

Live in Austin as well - over 50 years. I've seen them come and go. Still miss Ann - the last good Governor we had.

I have run into people who have served around Perry and have heard the stories.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
23. he's lying of course....
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 12:56 PM
Oct 2019

Perry is in this up to his fake eyelashes. He is trying to lay a meme that all the diplomatic efforts were against corruprion in general, which is a damned lie. All of their efforts were laser focussed on trump's re-election efforts. Biden was target zero.

Perry is a lying bastard. So what didn't we know?

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
37. Yes, you got it. I don't know why so many posts here are praising him
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 01:19 PM
Oct 2019

Yes, on one hand he said he never called Trump personally on "Something about an LNG [liquified natural gas] plant" but Trump may have been speaking in the sense that someone from his office got a call from someone in Perry's office. And the whole thing was only about this natural gas plant. (Trump trying to red herring the story...like he did claiming his dirt gathering meeting with Russians was about orphaned babies). Nowhere does the article indicate Trump is accusing him of asking to get dirt on the Bidens. Trump's team is concocting a story that the phone call actually had a purpose other than asking for a "favour".

But the second point is what is disgusting. Perry is actually trying to exonerate Trump by saying he never heard Biden's name come up once with any calls with Trump or Giuliani ever in regards to the Ukraine. That is the key point of the article. And why it is a story on the Fox News website. All he was doing was clarifying that he didn't personally speak about it with the President. But he's still a loyal foot soldier, and was telling this Christian business group that as far as he can tell, Rudy and Donnie are squeaky clean.

Ohiogal

(32,005 posts)
53. Whew
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 02:12 PM
Oct 2019

I was beginning to think I misunderstood his comments, but I agree with you, he is trying to exonerate Trump and save his own ass at the same time. Hardly worthy of praise or laughter.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
30. Let's see your tax returns and banking info Rick!
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 01:08 PM
Oct 2019

Let's see how much grift YOU have gotten due to being crooked.

Cry me a river, dickhead!

SWBTATTReg

(22,133 posts)
41. Or 'I've talked to many people' or 'Many people I've talked to', etc. rump is such a f**king liar..
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 01:30 PM
Oct 2019

and worthless piece of trash and scum.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
45. Or the Fox News/Trump/GOP/Rush "some people say"
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 01:41 PM
Oct 2019

Long time ago our next door neighbor in N.W. PA was the County D.A. and his brother,
Ray Shafer, was Governor of the State. You will never find a better man and he was a
Republican too but he would have no home in the Republican Party today.

SWBTATTReg

(22,133 posts)
49. I agree...the old republican party has been hijacked and not a damn one of the ...
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 01:52 PM
Oct 2019

old guard is willing to stand up and say 'this is wrong' and take back the party. Yeah, sure there are a couple, but my god, how ineffective these people are. Grossly incompetent, and clearly pointing out to all w/ the tiniest bit of logic in their heads that if this party (GOP) which has been around for so long, allowed itself to be held hostage in this manner by the likes of rump, does not deserve any say in the affairs of this Country, being that it is 'Party' first, 'Country' last with the GOP.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
58. Remember the eight republicans who spent July 4, 2018 in Moscow visiting Vlad and company?
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 06:02 PM
Oct 2019

So, what do we call these Red Square Republicans? My interlocutors on Twitter suggest “Moscow Mules.” Or, given the position they put themselves in before our masters in Moscow, perhaps they should be called the Prostrate Eight: Sens. Richard C. Shelby (Ala.), Steve Daines (Mont.), John Hoeven (N.D.), John Neely Kennedy (La.), Jerry Moran (Kan.), John Thune (S.D.) and Johnson, plus Rep. Kay Granger (Tex.).



https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/eight-republicans-spent-july-4-in-russia-where-are-the-fireworks/2018/07/06/beae30be-812e-11e8-b658-4f4d2a1aeef1_story.html

SWBTATTReg

(22,133 posts)
60. Yes, I do remember this and I never heard a reasonable explanation as to why they were there,
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 12:34 PM
Oct 2019

and all republicans too, not a democratic senator in the bunch.

I love your name, Red Square Republicans...it is perfect in describing these 5th column communists...

JHB

(37,160 posts)
38. Rick, he's been lying about you as far back as when he said you were fit for a Cabinet post
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 01:21 PM
Oct 2019

And you only now noticed. Oops.

PatrickforO

(14,576 posts)
42. Yeah, I read somewhere that when Perry was tapped for Energy,
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 01:33 PM
Oct 2019

he didn't realize that he now had all the nuclear power.

Sigh.

This is the price of dumbing down the schools out of 'christian concern,' and allowing the massive right-wing propaganda to be spread unchecked through talk radio and stations like Fox and now Sinclair.

The kids don't learn the facts, and they don't learn to think critically. Then they grow up and vote in a demagogue like Trump. Their ignorance makes them surprised when he betrays them, and when it turns out that all he ever did was lie to them.

SWBTATTReg

(22,133 posts)
39. Idiot walked right into this whole mess by associating w/ the rump trainwreck. Deserves it. ...
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 01:26 PM
Oct 2019

All of the rats are fleeing the ship, and it is pathetic. Anyone working for rump and/or this idiotic family deserves what they get, especially when rump has had 6 bankruptcies, quiet as a church mouse about any of his finances (makes one wonder seriously what's going on, the only 'so called' president NOT to reveal his taxes. A crook if you ask me. This reality show is a joke and has gone on long enough.

PatrickforO

(14,576 posts)
40. This is really very funny. Trump is flailing around throwing
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 01:29 PM
Oct 2019

everyone in sight under the bus, and now the people who have steadfastly propped him up are finding out that the ONLY thing he's ever cared about is himself.

Of course, Perry is just plain stupid, so there is that factor as well...

ffr

(22,670 posts)
48. So he goes on some softball Christian outlet to truth tell???
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 01:50 PM
Oct 2019

Sounds like his story is flimsy and wouldn't hold up under scrutiny from real journalist questioning. I'm pretty sure he knew exactly what tRump's message was and why he was going to UKR and not Mike Pence. Why else would the "energy secretary" be asked to do the job of a SoS or other high placed administration official.

Only some of this adds up.

 

StTimofEdenRoc

(445 posts)
50. I needed a good laugh, after seeing Senator Johnson on meet the press.
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 01:54 PM
Oct 2019

Poor Poor idiot Perry.


Trump did get one thing right this week. He call Mitt a pompous ass. I think of it as his "broken clock moment".

ret5hd

(20,495 posts)
51. Hey Rick! While you're down there, check those tie-rod ends and u-joints!
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 01:59 PM
Oct 2019

That front-end is feeling a little janky.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
54. Perry is just lying
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 02:22 PM
Oct 2019

To protect himself now. He's lying it was never mentioned , and better be sure they don't already know it, or he'll be looking at doing time, and he's dumb enough to think he can get away with lying. I've never believed Perry when he was in Texas.

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
56. Why is perry bringing up the bidens?
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 02:34 PM
Oct 2019

All I’ve read is that trump said perry wanted him to talk to ukraine about some LNG deal Probably a corrupt LNG deal but haven’t seen an details.

It’s suspicious as hell to me that Perry is preemptively denying talking about about the Bidens.

If I was overly suspicious I’d think the LNG deal was a sweetener to the aid package to push ukraine to invent dirt on the Bidens. Maybe to get some oligarchs to help pressure the government.

Just idle speculation

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