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benld74

(9,899 posts)
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 02:41 PM Sep 2012

Just got contacted by phone by Americans for Prosperity caller,,,,,

He informed me who he was representing and then asked
"Do you feel Obama's stimlulus helped or hurt the country?"
I told him, "It definitely helped the only issue I had was it was not large enough".
He replied,"Uh,oh, well do you know the debt under obama has risen,blahblahblah,,,,"

I cut him off and told him,
Do YOU realize you are reading from a prepared script given to you by an organization who does not care about this country and is only in it to discredit Obama while he is in office preventing him from doing ANYTHING worthwhile, and when he does(healthcare) it has to go to the SCOTUS?
And ALL the GOP govenors that oppose it at the state level need to be voted out of office by their residents since they care less about them than staying in office?
So tell me your personal opinion, Do you really feel in your heart Obama is doing things right in this country and the GOP is mucking things up on purpose?
He hung up
Wasn't expectiing that,,,,,,

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Just got contacted by phone by Americans for Prosperity caller,,,,, (Original Post) benld74 Sep 2012 OP
WTG skeewee08 Sep 2012 #1
That's their usual reaction when they hear something they don't want to. hobbit709 Sep 2012 #2
GOOD you were able to get that much fact in....way to go! nt nanabugg Sep 2012 #3
Or that wasn't in their script nxylas Sep 2012 #34
I feel about those pollsters the same as I feel about the trolls on DU. A Simple Game Sep 2012 #4
He probably stuck his fingers in his ears... chknltl Sep 2012 #5
K&R SunSeeker Sep 2012 #6
I put them on hold. obxhead Sep 2012 #7
Yeah, the more you tie them up as a "stealth CONservative," the less time they'll have calimary Sep 2012 #8
"Praise Jesus. Hold on a minute while I get my credit card," Ineeda Sep 2012 #36
OMG! Gotta remember that one!!!! calimary Sep 2012 #50
I've discovered they don't like waiting for long Brother Buzz Sep 2012 #9
We let our preschooler answer the phone. AllyCat Sep 2012 #23
I'll have to remember that one. CBHagman Sep 2012 #49
I've heard of putting small children Politicalboi Sep 2012 #51
I love those questions! RavensChick Sep 2012 #10
probabley some poor temp help Kyad06 Sep 2012 #11
Aren't they just supposed to poll people? And not inject repug rhetoric into the call?? ailsagirl Sep 2012 #12
Americans for Prosperity is not a polling organization. LiberalAndProud Sep 2012 #18
I see. I missed that--thanks ailsagirl Sep 2012 #20
I can't imagine folks doing those calls for free ... bayareaboy Sep 2012 #13
probably just some kid making minimun wage barbtries Sep 2012 #14
You have to realize these people are only "doing their job" DavidL Sep 2012 #15
I disagree obxhead Sep 2012 #16
We disagree, but I have been there! DavidL Sep 2012 #19
My husband is an actor, and will take ANYTHING Patiod Sep 2012 #21
Your husband is a better man than I was 22 years ago! DavidL Sep 2012 #43
Good post. I just say "thank you but I'm not interested" and hang up, so the poor gateley Sep 2012 #39
Thanks but not interested is a wonderful response. DavidL Sep 2012 #42
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not tclambert Sep 2012 #17
Love this quote. nt IdaBriggs Sep 2012 #24
Sinclair Upton? 1GirlieGirl Sep 2012 #30
About that, sorry. Bad my. tclambert Sep 2012 #48
My caller didn't hang up on me. NOLALady Sep 2012 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author PotatoChip Sep 2012 #25
Doesn't matter what persuasion the caller was 1GirlieGirl Sep 2012 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author PotatoChip Sep 2012 #33
I am not sure that the callers are not supposed to hang up on you. Curmudgeoness Sep 2012 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author PotatoChip Sep 2012 #46
Hmmm, differing suggestions in this thread. Curmudgeoness Sep 2012 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author PotatoChip Sep 2012 #52
Thanks - I will have to post this by the phone KegCreekDem Sep 2012 #26
K&R nt avebury Sep 2012 #27
my daughter did this during one election... madrchsod Sep 2012 #28
Lol! Nice!!! K&R!! hue Sep 2012 #29
Chris Rock: If you vote against Obama because he can't get stuff done, it's like saying, KurtNYC Sep 2012 #31
I had a similar call from some constitutional group that was telling me that Obama's ss card is from jillan Sep 2012 #35
WOW! that was super benld74. coldbeer Sep 2012 #37
They know better than to call me. lonestarnot Sep 2012 #38
human? pansypoo53219 Sep 2012 #40
That's great and you did it on their dime and time. Way to go southernyankeebelle Sep 2012 #41
Got the Real Story elbloggoZY27 Sep 2012 #45

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
34. Or that wasn't in their script
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 11:35 AM
Sep 2012

The caller was probably some low-wage peon who gets paid by the number of calls they make, and wasn't going to get shitcanned for falling below target. Been there, done that (not for political campaigns, but it's the same whoever you're calling on behalf of).

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
4. I feel about those pollsters the same as I feel about the trolls on DU.
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 03:41 PM
Sep 2012

They're fun to play with if you have the time.

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
5. He probably stuck his fingers in his ears...
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 03:59 PM
Sep 2012

...and said something profound like; "la la la can't hear you, neener neener." The facts challenged crowd does that a lot I think.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
7. I put them on hold.
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 04:36 PM
Sep 2012

I tell them I'm very concerned, but am in the middle of something. Can they hold for 2 minutes?

I've gotten a couple of those calls to sit there and listen while I go about my chores for as long as 20 minutes. I'll pop in every 2 or 3 minutes to tell them I'm almost done, just be patient.

While they're holding for me, they're not calling someone else that might actually listen to them.

calimary

(81,000 posts)
8. Yeah, the more you tie them up as a "stealth CONservative," the less time they'll have
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 04:48 PM
Sep 2012

to infect somebody else.

Dirty trick? Yeah, if you feel like calling it that. Fuck it! They do it, I think WE should too!

Ineeda

(3,626 posts)
36. "Praise Jesus. Hold on a minute while I get my credit card,"
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 12:02 PM
Sep 2012

works after the spiel. Make a little noise rattling stuff around as if you're really looking, call out, "Hold on, hold on -- just a second. I'll be right with you." After several minutes, you fumble around, hit a couple of numbers on the phone and then 'accidentally' hang up. Great fun and well worth the five minutes or so it takes.

calimary

(81,000 posts)
50. OMG! Gotta remember that one!!!!
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 07:41 PM
Sep 2012

Only problem is - we don't get many republi-CON phone callers to casa de calimary. But I've GOTTA remember that one! Burn up those minutes stringing them along on the phone so they aren't able to hit up more easy marks.

LOVE the "hit a couple of numbers on the phone" part! LOVE that!!!!

Might also want to figure up some variations on this, just to mix it up a little and keep them off their game.

Brother Buzz

(36,348 posts)
9. I've discovered they don't like waiting for long
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 04:49 PM
Sep 2012

When they start their spiel, I interrupt it by telling them, "wait a second, I got water boiling on the stove", and set the receiver down and listen for the disconnect sound from the phone. Generally, they don't hang around for more than thirty seconds.

AllyCat

(16,118 posts)
23. We let our preschooler answer the phone.
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 12:44 AM
Sep 2012

But I have done your trick too. "Great! I've been waiting for you folks to call! Hold on while I finish up something". Then wait for the beeping to start.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
51. I've heard of putting small children
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 07:50 PM
Sep 2012

On the line while mommy or daddy is busy works good too. LOL!

RavensChick

(3,123 posts)
10. I love those questions!
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 05:14 PM
Sep 2012

Hope you don't mind, but I'm going to copy and paste the questions so when I get a call from those fucks I'll be ready!

Thank you!!

ailsagirl

(22,864 posts)
12. Aren't they just supposed to poll people? And not inject repug rhetoric into the call??
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 05:18 PM
Sep 2012

Guess the rules have changed there, too

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
18. Americans for Prosperity is not a polling organization.
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 05:59 PM
Sep 2012

It was a push poll. I think they must be an effective campaign tool, because it's a campaign season hazard.

bayareaboy

(793 posts)
13. I can't imagine folks doing those calls for free ...
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 05:37 PM
Sep 2012

I have done it free as a union member with maybe a slice of pizza thrown in.

So do you figure that pretty soon this will go offshore as well?

barbtries

(28,752 posts)
14. probably just some kid making minimun wage
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 05:39 PM
Sep 2012

whose calls are being recorded. after all isn't that the koch's organization?

 

DavidL

(384 posts)
15. You have to realize these people are only "doing their job"
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 05:44 PM
Sep 2012

These people who call you and are real live voices, they are being paid $7.25 an hour, (minimum wage in states that have only a federal minimum wage).

They work on getting you to give $5 $10, $20 to Romney, and they get $.25 for every $10 they get, (2.5%), and their employer gets $1 for every $10 contributed.

That's who and what these callers are.

I have a strategy for dealing with these people.

1) get a caller ID phone, with an answering device attached.
2) don't answer numbers you don't recognize
3) Make sure everyone you WANT to call you calls you from a phone where their name and number comes up. Even police, fire, hospitals, and other emergency services calling you to inform you that your older great uncle just go shot.. they will call back or leave a message as to who to call. ("This it the XYZ police department, please call us back as soon as possible regarding your great uncle... full name.&quot Unless you run an ambulance service from your home phone number, there is no need to answer these calls. If your house is about to be hit by a tornado, the caller will leave a message.

4) Don't answer these calls, as soon as random calling or fund-raising calling becomes not profitable, it will stop, hopefully within the next 4 years.


 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
16. I disagree
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 05:54 PM
Sep 2012

As I posted up thread, answer the calls and try to burn as much of their time as possible.

Are they going to change your mind? No, not likely.

Pick up the phone and BS with them or otherwise tie them up for as long as you possibly can. Even 1 wasted minute might be 1 or 2 calls that person can't make that day.

 

DavidL

(384 posts)
19. We disagree, but I have been there!
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 06:09 PM
Sep 2012

in 1990, I worked for one of the first "push polling" places in Southern California, FOR FIVE DAYS!

We were taught a script, we could vary it here and there, but we had to complete each call in 9 minutes.

We could be nice and friendly to people who pledged $20 or more, we had to hang up when the person that we had called showed any signs of aggression, hostility, disrespect, or indicated in ANY way that continuing the call would be a waste of time. I hung up several calls within the first minute, and went on to the next sucker, asking them 8-10 questions and then asking them for $20. A couple of times in that week, I got $50 from the person I called. Never got $100. We called to make you feel like we wanted to know your opinion, and then put our hands on your wallet, nothing more, nothing less. We didn't care what you thought, we wanted to know if you'd give us money.

We got $6.something an hour, and bonuses for over $200 a day in contributions to our candidate. We worked a split shift, 9AM to 1 PM, 4PM to 9PM, yes 9 hours a day. Weekends were different but I quit on Friday.

Over 100 calls each day were a waste of time, both for me and the person I called. (I apologize now for waking people up from naps, or home sick from work.) I think I made quota one day, after about 120 calls that day, in nine hours. Lunch and dinner could only be eaten in break rooms, no food or drink on the "call floor" where we were 5-8 feet away from the next call guy/gal, and were being watched and random call monitored every minute.

Don't waste these poor folks' time. I was poor, had no job, no income, a $500 rent, and a car to get to and from work and gas was $1 a gallon, even then in S. Cal. I think I took home a total of $218 for all those 4.5 days of work before I just quit, had enough of being yelled at.

I got a job the next week waiting tables at a breakfast place, $3 an hour plus tips, made $440 the first week.

Patiod

(11,816 posts)
21. My husband is an actor, and will take ANYTHING
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 07:27 PM
Sep 2012

except something he believes is a rip-off (furniture rental, payday loans) or scam (Republican politics).

There are some things a person just has to say "no" to.

Better to work waiting tables at that breakfast place.

 

DavidL

(384 posts)
43. Your husband is a better man than I was 22 years ago!
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 01:13 PM
Sep 2012

I learned never to do something like that ever again.

Your husband knows that lesson.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
39. Good post. I just say "thank you but I'm not interested" and hang up, so the poor
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 12:26 PM
Sep 2012

worker can get on to the next call. Neither they nor their bosses care about our political leanings, why the other side is so evil, or how good our candidate is. They only care about the money, so let the guy/gal move on and try to make a buck or two.

If we want to change minds, that's not the arena.

 

DavidL

(384 posts)
42. Thanks but not interested is a wonderful response.
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 01:12 PM
Sep 2012

So is, simply, "don't call this number again". (It gets you off the computer list they have, just with the click of a button on the computer screen.... of course that only works in that ONE call center, they don't want to waste time with you the next begging session of push-polls or whatever they are doing next month to make money).

I grew up a lot that week. Found out that I would never take a job I didn't believe in, ever again!

tclambert

(11,084 posts)
17. "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 05:59 PM
Sep 2012

understanding it."
- Sinclair Upton

1GirlieGirl

(261 posts)
30. Sinclair Upton?
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 10:15 AM
Sep 2012

Thanks for posting, it's a good quote, I've received it before from Quote Of The Day.

But the man's name was Upton Sinclair.

NOLALady

(4,003 posts)
22. My caller didn't hang up on me.
Sun Sep 2, 2012, 10:56 PM
Sep 2012

We talked about a half an hour. By the time I was finished with him, I am certain he was ready to switch sides. He left the script and started agreeing with me.

I really enjoyed that encounter.

Response to benld74 (Original post)

1GirlieGirl

(261 posts)
32. Doesn't matter what persuasion the caller was
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 10:24 AM
Sep 2012

The caller approached the poster from the point of view of an anti-Obama repub. There was only one way to respond, and the poster did.

Response to 1GirlieGirl (Reply #32)

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
44. I am not sure that the callers are not supposed to hang up on you.
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 01:31 PM
Sep 2012

Every single time that I get these types of calls, and I don't give them the "correct" answer from the first question, I am hung up on. This leads me to believe that it is standard practice for them to cut the call off in short order if they have someone who is not in agreement with their agenda.

Or maybe just all of the ones who call ME are not doing it right.

Response to Curmudgeoness (Reply #44)

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
47. Hmmm, differing suggestions in this thread.
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 07:26 PM
Sep 2012

You say they do not mind if the person goes on and on. Others say that they are only wanting to get donations/sales, so that keeps them from being able to reach the goals. So now I don't know if I am doing the caller (who I realize probably does not believe what they are saying from the script) a favor or screwing them out of the job or money if I keep them on the phone. I really don't want to do harm to any of the people calling, even if I have been know to be angry about being bothered.

Response to Curmudgeoness (Reply #47)

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
28. my daughter did this during one election...
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 10:00 AM
Sep 2012

she was calling for a candidate in a southern state. funny thing is the firm she worked for could`t call about for candidate in illinois because that`s where she was calling from.

she was making about 8 an hour,reading from a script,could not answer a question , and was monitored during her call. she really did`t like her job.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
31. Chris Rock: If you vote against Obama because he can't get stuff done, it's like saying,
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 10:21 AM
Sep 2012

"this guy can't cure cancer. I'm gonna vote for cancer."

jillan

(39,451 posts)
35. I had a similar call from some constitutional group that was telling me that Obama's ss card is from
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 11:37 AM
Sep 2012

Connecticut and that just proves he was not born in the US.
On and on and on with more lies.

When it was my turn to talk - I told them that President Obama was elected because he won the majority of votes and the electoral votes. That's how it works in a Democracy. If they don't like living in a democracy - then move.

Then I told them the were the least patriotic Americans for spreading lies about the leader of the free world - while we have troops on the ground (love to use their line against them) - and said HOW DARE YOU try to weaken the President of the US???


Then I hung up because my other phone was ringing.... But it sure felt good




These people living in the bubble need a reality check.

pansypoo53219

(20,948 posts)
40. human?
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 01:07 PM
Sep 2012

i was HUMAN polled last week. 2 questions, at least 2 for me. who will i vote for. obama of course. 2nd, wo can fix the economy, republicans of republicans(the rite was ALWAYS 1st)? "well, since the republicans ruined the economy, i'll say democrats."

 

elbloggoZY27

(283 posts)
45. Got the Real Story
Mon Sep 3, 2012, 02:30 PM
Sep 2012

Watched Bill Moyer's show the other day and will read "The Party is Over". It lays out the real Agenda of the GOP.

Wake up Americans because we have been sold out to REALLY BIG MONEY.


The President does not say NO but you know who does.

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