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Sat Aug 3, 2019, 03:57 PM

The El Paso shooter was an alt-right terrorist who supported Trump and feared the Mexican invasion

This is not just about gun control - it's about fighting back right-wing domestic terrorism that has only been inflamed by the election of Donald Trump.

The shooter, 21 year old Patrick Crusius of Dallas, has been conditioned on hate going back to 2017, according to his twitter:




This is scary. The rise of 4Chan, the continued bigotry of this president, demanding people of color go back to their countries, is stoking this hatred - and it's warping the minds of a good amount of persuadable young people, specifically young, white men.

I am scared. I am scared that, in the most culturally diverse country on the face of the planet, we have sat back silently and allowed for this hatred to flourish.

Something must be done.

This goes beyond gun control - this is systemic, folks...and it's terrifying.

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Reply The El Paso shooter was an alt-right terrorist who supported Trump and feared the Mexican invasion (Original post)
Drunken Irishman Aug 2019 OP
malaise Aug 2019 #1
triron Aug 2019 #29
orangecrush Aug 2019 #50
busterbrown Aug 2019 #45
myohmy2 Aug 2019 #95
tblue37 Aug 2019 #54
Pachamama Aug 2019 #72
malaise Aug 2019 #74
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Power 2 the People Aug 2019 #91
certainot Aug 2019 #102
malaise Aug 2019 #105
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justie18 Aug 2019 #24
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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 04:00 PM

1. Just wait until this hits prime time

A fucking Con supporters slaughters scores including children.

Thank you Don the Con, Hannity, Limbaugh Carson et al.

Impeach the MF for encouraging hate.

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Response to malaise (Reply #1)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 05:00 PM

29. We need an 'ironclad case'. Ugh.

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Response to triron (Reply #29)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 05:42 PM

50. +1

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Response to malaise (Reply #1)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 05:17 PM

45. Practically Every Current Republican in Congress.

No Spine, No Morals, No Decency!!.... Only thing they care about is their Money, Girlfriends, Boyfriends, And Stash.....

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Response to busterbrown (Reply #45)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 12:12 AM

95. +1

...republicans...

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Response to malaise (Reply #1)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 05:49 PM

54. He also is concerned about environmental degradation, though, so they will call him

a liberal. Bet on it.

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Response to malaise (Reply #1)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 06:56 PM

72. And so it begins.....

We have always known that the United States is armed to the teeth....especially with weapons of War....

And we know that the illegitimate racist Motherfucker sitting in the White House has been stoking the fires and wants to have a Race War in this country against Blacks and Immigrants and Muslims.

Its a powder keg right now and he has been taking a flamethrower to it....

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Response to Pachamama (Reply #72)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 06:59 PM

74. +1,000

Add to that six Mexicans injured today - many came to shop for school supplies

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Response to malaise (Reply #1)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 07:37 PM

84. Fox has promoted the caravan invasions since Kremlin Don began

Anything for power and money.

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Response to malaise (Reply #1)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 09:00 PM

91. They're all complicit. MFers!

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Response to malaise (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 12:02 PM

102. if the guy went all that way to el paso i wonder if there were any recent attacks on

el paso by RW radio blowhards in his area, or even limbaugh, that he may have been listening to, relative to immigration or dem politicians.

if there's a national news story etc about el paso being friendly to immigrants then the local dallas blowhards might attack el paso for that

the investigators of these shooters need to start factoring in republican/putin talk radio, besides the internet, even if it's what the asshole's parents had on all day at home when he was growing up

trump a result of putin seeing an opportunity, a symptom, just like these racist murderers and lack of gun control after columbine and sandy hook, of ignoring republican hate radio for 30 years.

americans still wonder why?

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Response to certainot (Reply #102)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 12:16 PM

105. Great question

I'll never understand hate radio

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Response to malaise (Reply #105)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 12:48 PM

108. biilionaire's best friend - it's great way to divide - 1500 radio stations all repeating

the same lies as long as they want, unchallenged by the left, invisible to democrats, easy to coordinate at the local level and national level, basically free, paid for in large by advertisers who are bundled onto those stations when they go for the reduced rates and believe the ad industry who tell them the lying racists are just political entertainers satisfying market demand, trying to bring in more customers.

they need to see protests and boycotts until the ad industry has to start asking all their clients if they really want to support trump and global warming.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 04:00 PM

2. He proved his love for Trump.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 04:01 PM

3. Here's an image from his Twitter timeline

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Response to octoberlib (Reply #3)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 04:02 PM

4. +1

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Response to octoberlib (Reply #3)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 04:04 PM

5. There you have it

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Response to octoberlib (Reply #3)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 04:09 PM

7. fucking sick fuck....

and blood is on your hands trump, you fucking asshole...

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Response to dhill926 (Reply #7)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 04:49 PM

24. Exactly!

The MSM needs to let the public know this information. I smell a coverup already. A question was already asked about the demographics of the victims and the police spokesperson was not able to answer.

Just 2 days after a rally and just days after a mass shooting in Gilroy CA by a white nationalist.

We need to cold hard facts here.

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Response to dhill926 (Reply #7)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 05:09 PM

35. NO! not trump...It is on republicans !

Trump is one mentally disturbed psychopath.

republicans are daily traitors.

THEY could stop this in one minute !

SPREAD THAT !!!

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Response to dhill926 (Reply #7)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 05:44 PM

52. +1000

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Response to octoberlib (Reply #3)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 04:14 PM

9. Sweet Jesus...

Iím stunned. Something has to be done. What, I donít know. There is madness afoot. All we can do is come together. Stop letting them make us as crazy as these things are.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #9)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 05:10 PM

37. It is on republicans !!!

Trump is one mentally disturbed psychopath.

republicans are daily traitors.

THEY could stop this in one minute !

SPREAD THAT !!!

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Response to octoberlib (Reply #3)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 04:18 PM

10. Is that real? (NOT trying to be funny here)

If that is undoctored, all I can say is OMG.............

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #10)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 04:32 PM

13. It's real.

Link : https://twitter.com/outsider609/likes

It's full of likes of Charlie Kirk and Paul Joseph Watson of Infowars posts. Total MAGA crap.

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Response to octoberlib (Reply #3)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 05:56 PM

56. Do they have silencers on them?

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #56)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 06:27 PM

65. I think they're standard and high-capacity magazines n/t

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #56)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 07:54 PM

87. It looks like the pistols do. nt.

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Response to octoberlib (Reply #3)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 01:20 PM

109. +1000!

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 04:06 PM

6. Don't be scared. Be brave and defend the best of our American values. nt

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 04:09 PM

8. People Control, Not Gun Control


This is my generic response to gun threads where people are shot and killed by the dumb or criminal possession of guns. For the record, I grew up in the South and on military bases. I was taught about firearms as a child, and I grew up hunting, was a member of the NRA, and I still own guns. In the 70ís, I dropped out of the NRA because they become more radical and less interested in safety and training. Some personal experiences where people I know were involved in shootings caused me to realize that anyone could obtain and posses a gun no matter how illogical it was for them to have a gun. Also, easy access to more powerful guns, guns in the hands of children, and guns that werenít secured are out of control in our society. As such, hereís what I now think ought to be the requirements to possess a gun. Iím not debating the legal language, I just think itís the reasonable way to stop the shootings. Notice, none of this restricts the type of guns sold. This is aimed at the people who shoot others, because itís clear that they should never have had a gun.

1.) Anyone in possession of a gun (whether they own it or not) should have a regularly renewed license. If you want to call it a permit, certificate, or something else that's fine.
2.) To get a license, you should have a background check, and be examined by a professional for emotional and mental stability appropriate for gun possession. It might be appropriate to require that examination to be accompanied by references from family, friends, employers, etc. This check is not to subject you to a mental health diagnosis, just check on your superficial and apparent gun-worthyness.
3.) To get the license, you should be required to take a safety course and pass a test appropriate to the type of gun you want to use.
4.) To get a license, you should be over 21. Under 21, you could only use a gun under direct supervision of a licensed person and after obtaining a learnerís license. Your license might be restricted if you have children or criminals or other unsafe people living in your home. (If you want to argue 18 or 25 or some other age, fine. 21 makes sense to me.)
5.) If you possess a gun, you would have to carry a liability insurance policy specifically for gun ownership - and likely you would have to provide proof of appropriate storage, security, and whatever statistical reasons that emerge that would drive the costs and ability to get insurance.
6.) You could not purchase a gun or ammunition without a license, and purchases would have a waiting period.
7.) If you possess a gun without a license, you go to jail, the gun is impounded, and a judge will have to let you go (just like a DUI).
8.) No one should carry an unsecured gun (except in a locked case, unloaded) when outside of home. Guns should be secure when transporting to a shooting event without demonstrating a special need. Their license should indicate training and special carry circumstances beyond recreational shooting (security guard, etc.). If you are carrying your gun while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, you lose your gun and license.
9.) If you buy, sell, give away, or inherit a gun, your license information should be recorded.
10.) If you accidentally discharge your gun, commit a crime, get referred by a mental health professional, are served a restraining order, etc., you should lose your license and guns until reinstated by a serious relicensing process.

Most of you know that a license is no big deal. Besides a driverís license you need a license to fish, operate a boat, or many other activities. I realize these differ by state, but that is not a reason to let anyone without a bit of sense pack a semiautomatic weapon in public, on the roads, and in schools. I think we need to make it much harder for some people to have guns.

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Response to Sancho (Reply #8)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 04:35 PM

14. Absolutely brilliantly put. Agree 99%. I was just

In Barbados where it is extremely difficult to be allowed to possess a gun. Our guide was a master target shooter in the army and had won awards. The government put him off for a year - his request for a license and they finally gave him a set of golf clubs with the denial.

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Response to Sancho (Reply #8)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 04:43 PM

18. And a citizenship course/test

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Response to Sancho (Reply #8)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 05:07 PM

32. Some folks think as you do... NRAsolicitations

Some folks think as you do...

NRAsolicitations
comment from a blog (DU I think)

I had a coworker who was a big time gun owner who kept a gun in every room in the house just in case someone broke in (lots of problems with that idea, may be worth a blog article someday, but thatís what he did). He even went so far as to start buying more guns for each room after a school shooting, like home invasion and mass shooting are correlated somehow. He had let his NRA membership lapse and refused to renew it because he got tired of nonstop requests for donations. To him all the membership did was give the NRA to badger him for more money with phone calls, and direct mailings. If the
organization is as strapped for cash as it appears, those solicitations may have gone way over the top and people are simply tired of being badgered for money and are choosing to let their membership to lapse.

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Response to Sancho (Reply #8)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 05:10 PM

39. The NRA used to be for sportsmen, hunters and gun safety.

The NRA used to be for sportsmen, hunters and gun safety.

Now it has become an industry owned shill for the sale of more guns and the enrichment of its leaders.

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #39)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 06:19 PM

62. Yes indeed.

They are now owned, wholly, by corporate profit potential.

This is a money/resource game.

If you don't have the money or resources, you lose.

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Response to Sancho (Reply #8)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 06:36 PM

67. That sounds a lot like what Japan has

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Response to Sancho (Reply #8)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 07:47 PM

86. Fuck Thoughts n Prayers AND FUCK GUNS

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Response to Sancho (Reply #8)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 08:46 AM

97. Yay! You posted this before and I 'lost it'

Iíll use your suggestions.

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Response to Sancho (Reply #8)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 12:13 PM

104. And gun owners should be required to have liability INSURANCE

in an amount that would compensate victims that their guns shot for life.

If the insurance lapsed, the guns should be confiscated until it's reinstated.

-Plus, nobody needs military weapons. Society has shown that as a whole we aren't responsible enough not to abuse their use.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 04:23 PM

11. When these guys get incorporated into the system as Trump's version of the brown shirts it's

going to get a whole lot scarier.

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #11)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 05:03 PM

31. This may indeed be what's coming. But MSM will remain complicit. Heil Trump.

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #11)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 05:43 PM

51. More to come

Wait until he loses election and is facing criminal charges. He will call them all into action, not only against POC, he will demand they take up arms against all democrats. If MSM does not hammer this point that trump IS the instigator, they are complicit and they are as much responsible. Watching MSNBC tip toe around the manifesto right now is sickening. White Nationalism is a terrorist group and are now killing on our soil. In the name of tRump, in the name of GOD. We are rapidly becoming trump's own shit hole country.

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Response to Traildogbob (Reply #51)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 06:02 PM

58. Won't they be shocked to learn democrats own guns.

We are just responsible with them and they donít define our lives.

Actually, none of that is going to happen. If he looses it will be like the air coming out of a Whoopee Cushion.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #58)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 07:12 PM

80. You are correct.

More like the air outta trumps ass on his golden thrown after a hanberder binge and burnt steak smothered in ketchup. Yep, those lax gun laws work both ways. I will protect my child. Military taught me a particular set of skills. They taught me very well.

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Response to Traildogbob (Reply #80)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 07:29 PM

82. I don't do the gun debate thing on DU.

I support stringent gun control laws. But on DU it just leads to people throwing shit at each other.

And I get it and respect it. Many people here live in Urban areas and have for multiple generations.

But every democrat I know, except my best friend in a large northern city, own guns. I donít think any own the AR15 types. Just normal hunting guns and handguns.

I support our platform on guns. The second amendment makes them legal to own. But they can be regulated like hell. Even the shitbag Scalia said that in the Heller ruling.

Itís these fucking high capacity(magazine size) semi-automatic rifles that cause the problem. We had few mass shootings until people could shoot 30-60 rounds per minute. No one is doing a mass shooting with a 12 gauge pump or semi that holds 5 rounds! Which my grandfather had!

But the republicans see the constitution, as they read it, as a gift from god. Hell you dot have to read long on their sights where they explicitly say god wants us to own guns! They are fucking nuts.

Sorry for the expletives, but I am pissed.




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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #82)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 07:36 PM

83. Well stated.

Gavin Newsom used some very sharp expletives himself after the Garlic fest shooting. He is normally extremely poised. We all need to be very pissed. We are being slaughtered, edged on by the Predident and Fux Noise. Murderois slime, and getting rich doing it.

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Response to Traildogbob (Reply #83)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 05:02 AM

96. Remember the head of CBS

Moonves saying when tRump first began his campaign for the WH, "He is GREAT for the bottom line" People were saying tRump was unfit for the office, so Moonves spoke up, like a true patriot (!) and gave away the real reason he was getting so much publicity. I think it started as a joke, then became serious. So, looking at this disaster daily, with mass shootings and deaths these gun nuts are still "Great for the bottom line" Lives do not seem to matter for these rich people. Just the bottom line.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 04:30 PM

12. Like the Gilroy Garlic Festival shooter who killed only PoC (including 2 Latino kids). Sickening.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 04:36 PM

15. Apparently he claimed to be doing this for his fellow Americans. Except

those brown citizens he killed.

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Response to MarcA (Reply #15)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 06:12 PM

60. Gotta wash socks. BBL. n/t

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 04:40 PM

16. Where did you get this info? NPR, at 5:35, says the name has not been released. nt

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Response to LAS14 (Reply #16)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 04:41 PM

17. There's a tweet with a pic of the shooter in the back of a cop car nt

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Response to LAS14 (Reply #16)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 04:49 PM

23. Wolf Blitzer announced the name a couple minutes ago. It's been out on Twitter for about an hour.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 04:47 PM

19. Here's a photo of the shooter calmly being taken into custody

No choke hold or roughing up...

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #19)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 04:52 PM

27. Where was this?

Last edited Sat Aug 3, 2019, 06:56 PM - Edit history (1)

How did he get to this serene looking location where people on a bus are able to take a picture of him?

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #27)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 06:56 PM

71. Police said he peacefully surrendered when the spotted him.

I don't know exactly where it was.

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #19)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 05:13 PM

43. It's not as though he was selling individual cigarettes, after all

Which sounds snarky but is a reflection of the professionalism of these officers vs the ones who arrested Eric Garner.

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Response to renate (Reply #43)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 05:26 PM

46. Exactly. nt

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Response to renate (Reply #43)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 06:24 PM

63. +1,

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #19)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 07:00 PM

75. No chokehold....?

Did they offer him a glass of water to quench his blood thirst after all that shooting in extreme heat???

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 04:47 PM

20. How come they aren't talking about this on cable?

Like they are spinning to avoid mentioning what we are seeing.

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Response to Generic Other (Reply #20)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 05:09 PM

34. They talked about it on CNN

but they said that details such as his manifesto shouldn't be spread online because it helps radicalize others and can inspire copycats.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 04:48 PM

21. Left a racist manifesto .

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 04:49 PM

22. There's a tweet here with what is claimed to be what he posted

Anti-immigrant, blaming them for pretty much everything. Urging others to murder too ("it's not cowardly ... attack low security targets" ). Anti-"race mixing". Talks about "The Great Replacement". Blames corporations for encouraging immigration to get cheap labour.




Basically, a Nazi.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #22)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 11:56 AM

100. Is there a way to make the print any bigger?

I tried several ways and was unsuccessful.

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Response to shanti (Reply #100)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 12:30 PM

106. If you go to the tweet, open the image, right click on it and select "open image in new tab"

if you're on hardware/OS that supports that, of course ...

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #106)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 12:32 PM

107. Got it, thanks! n/t

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Response to shanti (Reply #100)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 01:57 PM

110. Hit your Ctrl key at the same time you hit the + key, and vice versa to shrink back down...nt

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 04:49 PM

25. can't be an accident he chose El Paso

after Beto made a point of talking about how safe it was there.

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Response to Takket (Reply #25)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 05:10 PM

41. CNN said he traveled from Dallas area to commit the mass murder

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #41)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 11:33 AM

98. from the east side of the FWD Metroplex, it is a 9 hour drive

(minimum) to El Paso. That is straight drive time. Assuming the traffic in Dallas doesn't slow you down or you don't encounter a big accident or highway construction. (construction is an endless possibility here)
From the west side of Ft Worth it is roughly 8 hours of driving time not counting rest stops and a meal. We have driven it many times since our daughter moved to Phoenix several years ago.

His choice of dates is no accident - it is sales tax free weekend for school supplies, uniforms, backpacks and other essentials for the beginning of the school year. He knew there would be tons of people at that shopping center.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 04:51 PM

26. Allen,TX is a couple of blocks from where I live

Literally a neighbor

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 04:57 PM

28. I'm sure Trump will disavow this guy right away...

Fuck it, no he won't. This guy is his base.

Thoughts and prayers, though, thoughts and prayers.

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Response to Still In Wisconsin (Reply #28)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 05:29 PM

47. He's basically asking God to help. As if it's God's fault...

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #47)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 05:48 PM

53. God sent trump

So, God IS with them through trump. Wonder when the ALMIGHTY will show his power and defend his name from trump. Is he afraid of trump like elected GOP?

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 05:02 PM

30. Anything from Trump yet about his loyal supporter?

Anything from Trump yet about his loyal supporter?

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #30)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 05:08 PM

33. No but the manifesto was just mentioned on M$NBComcast

Expect some diversion from the Con in 3...2...1

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #30)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 05:30 PM

48. Good people on both sides, right?

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #30)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 05:31 PM

49. No, he changed the subject already to wish good luck to a MMA fighter

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #49)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 05:56 PM

55. Trump is a grinning baboon with no sense of decency or decorum. nt

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #49)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 06:25 PM

64. omfg

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #64)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 06:54 PM

70. Can you effin' believe this?

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #49)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 07:09 PM

79. FFS!

There are no words to express how disgusted his idiotic grin is at this moment! I cry.

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #49)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 11:59 PM

93. Isn't MMA a gateway to violent white supremacists groups?

I've heard at least some are recruiting for right wing militia and "proud boys" types

No link or reference, just something unverfieid I heard

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Response to DBoon (Reply #93)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 12:05 AM

94. I don't know. Donald probably doesn't know much about MMA

He just likes anyone who flatters him.

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Response to DBoon (Reply #93)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 12:09 PM

103. That seems ridiculous given the number of people from around the world involved in it

It is a global sport

Sharice Davids was an MMA fighter and I assure you her being Native American she is not a white supremacist.

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Response to Trenzalore (Reply #103)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 03:31 PM

113. Fascist fight clubs: how white nationalists use MMA as a recruiting tool

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/sep/11/far-right-fight-clubs-mma-white-nationalists

One of the most prominent groups present that night were the Rise Above Movement (RAM) ó a white supremacist group that refers to itself as the ďpremier MMA (mixed martial arts) club of the Alt-Right.Ē

Based in southern California, RAM boasts over 50 members and fashions itself as a fight club. Its members train in various combat sports such as MMA and boxing, which they later apply during street fights and protests. The group has been spotted in Santa Monica, where RAM members tried to disrupt a Committee for Racial Justice meeting, and in San Bernardino, where they took part in an ďanti-Sharia lawĒ protest with signs such as ďRAPEFUGEES stay away NOT WELCOME.Ē They engaged in physical violence during protests in Huntington Beach, Berkeley and Charlottesville.


One particular organization uses affiliated MMA tclubs o recruit

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 05:09 PM

36. K&R

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 05:10 PM

38. M$NBComcast are now discussing the manifesto

PHEW!!
Next they'll reach the twitter feed - I hope they show us the photo of the Con's name in Guns

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 05:10 PM

40. Another white male Trump supporting killer. Supported by DT and his constant hate.

It's scary that they are so mentally weak, easily influenced, and eager to scapegoat others. It's scary that the only response they come up with is mass murder. My heart goes out to the families and victims.

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Response to 58Sunliner (Reply #40)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 06:02 PM

57. There's an apparent .....

SAMENESS of a majority of these mass-murderers other than them being alt-right, nationalistic, racist tRump-loving assholes. Lemme think. What do many mass-shooters have in common 🤔


:large

Add another asshole to the list:


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Response to LenaBaby61 (Reply #57)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 07:45 PM

85. gonna be hard to keep that updated fast enough

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Response to LenaBaby61 (Reply #57)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 11:59 AM

101. check this out:



gilroy shooter, el paso shooter, wtf? they look like twins.

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Response to shanti (Reply #101)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 02:52 PM

112. They do. Ugh!

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Response to LenaBaby61 (Reply #57)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 02:51 PM

111. Actually-some pre-date Trump and several were not race related.

The Sandy Hook killer was mentally ill-most victims white. The theater guy-another mentally ill person, not race related. The Las Vegas shooter wanted infamy-mentally ill, not race related. Florida bank guy-mentally ill, all victims were women, had fantasies/dreams of killing students. Santa Fe school shooter was also mentally ill. Louisiana shooter killed his family members, girlfriend and her family , mentally ill, not racial. The Thousand Oaks shooter was mentally ill, was a vet, not race related. Yes they were white, but DT and nationalism did not play a part in these shootings.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 05:10 PM

42. This is not on trump. It is on republicans !

Trump is one mentally disturbed psychopath.

republicans are daily traitors.

THEY could stop this in one minute !

SPREAD THAT !!!

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 05:17 PM

44. "The El Paso shooter was an alt-right terrorist who supported Trump and feared the Mexican invasion

This is the treatment BLACK male Eric Garner got after he was MURDERED--choked to DEATH--by a racist cop for selling 'loosies' on a street corner in New York City.



When even a white, racist, POS, alt-right, mass-murderer gets better treatment than a black male in the USA.

Thanks tRump for helping to stoke the flames of racism, hatred and bigotry.

The rise of alt-righters who feel they can do what they WANT to thanks to their Dear Leader tRumputin.

SMDH.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 06:05 PM

59. This is what what it looks like whena

A murdering corrupt criminal foreign dictator installs his candidate to incite hate and fear and violence against its own for him.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 06:17 PM

61. Idiocracy

ďIn general, I support the Christchurch shooter and his manifesto. This attack is a response to the Hispanic invasion of Texas. They are the instigators, not me. I am simply defending my country from cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion. Some people will think this statement is hypocritical because of the nearly complete ethnic and cultural destruction brought to the Native Americans by our European ancestors, but this just reinforces my point. The natives didnít take the invasion of Europeans seriously, and now whatís left is just a shadow of what was. My motives for this attack are not at all personal. Actually the Hispanic community was not my target before I read The Great Replacement. This manifesto will cover the political and economic reasons behind the attack, my gear, my expectations of what response this will generate and my personal motivations and thoughts.Ē

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Response to Marcuse (Reply #61)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 08:19 PM

89. Texas was once part of Mexico

I guess it's a waste of time to point that out to idiots like this. There were Spanish speakers in Texas for hundreds of years before there were English speakers.

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Response to TexasBushwhacker (Reply #89)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 08:35 PM

90. Exactly. They didn't cross the border, the border crossed them.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 06:32 PM

66. the media calls white suprematists 'shooters'

only muslim shooters are called terrorists

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Response to AlexSFCA (Reply #66)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 07:01 PM

76. All are murderers with guns. In this case a white supremacist MURDERER with a GUN


Media needs to say "murderer with a gun" from the very start of an incident. Then if they have a manifesto they are a terrorist. Period.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #76)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 07:20 PM

81. media would immediately call this as terrorism

if the shooter was muslim, manifesto or not would be totally irrelevant.

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Response to AlexSFCA (Reply #66)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 07:07 PM

78. +1

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 06:50 PM

68. it fits perfectly into the plutocractic agenda.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 06:51 PM

69. And the NRA, a terrorist organization, helped this man commit murder

By ensuring his access to weapons.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 06:57 PM

73. Looks like they put the lockdown on the account.

Hoping this guys politics and motivations are fully captured.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 07:03 PM

77. Scary AF. I'm scared too.

We need leadership. It feels like we're just swinging in the wind and fending for ourselves out here.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 10:40 PM

92. Dontcha know they only qualify as terrorists if they're brown?

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 11:48 AM

99. This is tRump's legacy

n/t

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