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byronius

(7,468 posts)
Sun Jul 28, 2019, 11:26 PM Jul 2019

Karl Popper on Trumpism.

From The Open Society And Its Enemies by Karl Popper, 1945:

Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. 

In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be unwise.

But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols. We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant.

We should claim that any movement preaching intolerance places itself outside the law. and we should consider incitement to intolerance and persecution as criminal, in the same way as we should consider incitement to murder, or to kidnapping, or to the revival of the slave trade, as criminal.


I find this passage quite moving at this moment in time.
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Karl Popper on Trumpism. (Original Post) byronius Jul 2019 OP
I have brought this up with my daughters. Who defines AJT Jul 2019 #1
great quote ProfessorPlum Jul 2019 #2

AJT

(5,240 posts)
1. I have brought this up with my daughters. Who defines
Sun Jul 28, 2019, 11:57 PM
Jul 2019

intolerance? By the time that the line is crossed it is too late.

ProfessorPlum

(11,315 posts)
2. great quote
Mon Jul 29, 2019, 01:04 PM
Jul 2019

and a perfect counter to the "intolerant left" nonsense.

Also, and I have to apologize beforehand, here is what Carl Poppa has to say:


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