Brian Williams on MSNBC said

[gopiscrap]

the hearing was a disaster for the Democrats what's with that? What did CNN say?

[uponit7771]

1. Fuck Williams, he's going to be face smashed for that

[gopiscrap]

6. He's always been a republican fuckwad

[dem4decades]

10. In all fairness, maybe Williams was dodging incoming at the time he said that.

[Iliyah]

2. MSNBC got their marching orders.

[BumRushDaShow]

3. Watch CSPAN3 without the bullshit spin.

[unc70]

4. CNN had a much different take on things

[gopiscrap]

5. Like how?

[GentryDixon]

31. CNN was actually quite balanced.

I don't normally watch any of the pundits, but after C-Span finished their feed, I had to go somewhere else. CNN was my first choice. The overall consensus was positive. I didn't listen to their take after the Intelligence session. After listening to my sycophant Rep Chris Stewart, my BP was elevated & my jaw was tight from gritting my teeth. I flipped the channel to Animal Planet. 🐶🐶

[Dennis Donovan]

7. I listened to it via radio

I thought it was a good-sized blow to Trump and his No Collusion/no obstruction claims.

[nini]

8. MSNBC hasn't been worth a shit for years

Turn PBS on - it's about as close as you can get to legit these days.

[StarfishSaver]

9. It's not news if it wasn't a disaster for the Democrats

[Cosmocat]

16. Yep

nm

[blogslut]

11. Well, he's wrong

I've grown quite weary of Brian. I used to really like him but in the last few months he's become quite a hack and the guests on his show are awful.

[brooklynite]

12. If you disagree, explain how it was a win for the Democrats?

[octoberlib]

18. Because the majority of Americans not in the Beltway bubble haven't read the Mueller report.

The hearings confirmed a lot of things. It can't be overstated that the President wasn't exonerated and was fine with Russian interference. Not to mention that Mueller shot down Trump's repeated statements that Mueller held a grudge because Trump turned him down for FBI Director.

[brooklynite]

20. And the majority of Americans aren't watching the hearing...

I'm willing to bet this doesn't radically change the number of people who support an Impeachment process.

[octoberlib]

25. They might see soundbites later on but you're probably right. I'm having problems with the media

framing . Cries of "disaster!" And almost no coverage of the questions from R's based on conspiracy theories that they got off of Hannity.

The R's were condescending and bullying to Mueller. Talk about bad optics.

[uponit7771]

34. Doesn't have to be a majority just a critical mass like Nixon

[brooklynite]

35. We're nowhere close to that number...

[silentEcho]

13. All I got from reading is Trump was guilty and could be charged out of office.

Seems to be the point on the whole to do.

I do not see how that translate to a Democratic fail.

[onecaliberal]

14. Q: Did you clear trump or obstruction and collusion A:No

Not even close to a disaster. They are two republicans talking.

[comradebillyboy]

15. The main flaw with Mueller's testimony is that it wasn't

exciting TV drama. The pundit class grows more vapid every day.

[octoberlib]

19. Bingo! I guess Chuck Todd was expecting an episode of Real Housewives : Congress

[Cosmocat]

17. Dems pick u 40 seats in congress and the midterms were ... a disaster

These media shitheads don't even get how programmed they are.

Bad news for the dems!

[Iliyah]

26. I remember that. Corporate media said it was a disaster . . .

They didn't chime in on how well the Democratic house did, until much later (maybe)

I have noticed it's always the fault of the Democrats.

[TheRealNorth]

21. I have never liked Brian Williams

He gives the crazy shit Trump says far too much airtime every night.

[Thrill]

22. They keep saying this because of the way mueller looks

Even Odonell said it

[manhattan123]

23. Because someone says something that makes you unhappy....

..doesn't mean it's untrue.

I think for the average viewer out there, someone not steeped in politics or the details of the case, the hearings have been meh. They are seeing a rather (sorry to say) frail, halting, sometimes confused seeming man who refuses to answer what seem like even simple questions.

The hearings will not move the needle.

If you watch Nicolle Wallace on a regular basis you know she despises Trump and the shell of her former party, has been pleading with the Democrats to be more forceful, has been asking why haven't they moved quicker, has said she will vote for the Democratic candidate's cat over Trump.

The hearings aren't over, but if they continue in this trajectory, it's not going to do anything to hurt Trump.

In their ongoing live analysis of the hearing, a NY Times reporter, Noah Weiland, said this: "I am trying to imagine what it feels like watching this as someone who did not closely follow the Mueller investigation. The Mueller team seemed to use the report as a way to communicate publicly in strict chronological terms. A public hearing of this magnitude should ostensibly serve a similar function. But the questions in both of these hearings have ping-ponged so much. And Mueller is uninterested in using his report as a storytelling device the way Democrats have wanted him to."

[UniteFightBack]

24. I sometimes am wondering if Mueller has read the damn report. nt

[mcar]

27. CNN is reporting reality

Providing good analysis. No idea why MSNBC is going all Fox.

[marlakay]

30. I saw a bit of it before

I left for dinner (in Ireland). Nicole was talking with Brian and she got it right. I didn't hear Brian say anything like that.

I think we keep hoping too much for a easy out with Trump. Hoping something anything will take him down. I think we are stuck with him at least till next election is over and maybe longer if they cheat again.

The republicans are a different party now and we have to face that.

[Different Drummer]

38. "...if they cheat again."

If?

[marlakay]

39. Your right no if

They will do whatever they can get away with.

[The_Counsel]

28. sigh. This Is a Real Hearing, Not an Episode of "Matlock..."

What are we expecting here? A tearful confession from Trump himself?

This is going exactly as can be expected. Mueller said his testimony will not stray from the written report, and it hasn't.

We expected Dems to ask real questions, and they have.

We expected GOP members to grandstand and try to discredit Mueller, and they have. Exactly HOW is this a "disaster?" I mean moreso than Trump being elected in the first place being one?

[Thomas Hurt]

29. because they really really wanted a smoking gun that they could sensationalize...

the disappointment is all in the media.

[Submariner]

32. Brian Williams is Best Buds with OxyRush Limbaugh...nuff said

[Hortensis]

33. He's changed his tune for the Intelligence Committee part,

he says it's damning for Trump. The rest of the MSNBC panel were also greatly encouraged and feel it's gone well so far.

[manhattan123]

36. Hmm...

...changed his tune or maybe was just noting, accurately, that the afternoon hearings (Intelligence Cmt) were different than the morning (Judiciary). Either because of the questions asked, or that Mueller had loosened up a little.

This is going to what I posted, probably inarticulately, a little earlier on this thread; that sometimes folks, especially partisans, have a tendency to hear something that doesn't make them happy and so immediately attribute a sinister motive to it.

I watched the morning hearings and was not particularly impressed, and I didn't hear any BW commentary.

[groovedaddy]

37. Christie said it on ABC as well, but

none of the other commentators on that panel said it.

[DeminPennswoods]

40. Heilman was on Deadline:WH and criticized

Dems for not asking why, if Barr already said he could, no one asked Mueller what his "determination" of Trump's cupability was. Then, when the show came back from commercial break, Heilman had to correct himself by saying he was told, yes, that question was asked.

So much for "hot takes"...