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Thu Jul 11, 2019, 11:09 PM

Do you think the current Democratic internecine war is organic and as reported or . . . . .

. . . . . do you think the Russians are fucking with us?

I think the Russians and the right are fucking with us, perhaps with help.

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Reply Do you think the current Democratic internecine war is organic and as reported or . . . . . (Original post)
Stinky The Clown Jul 11 OP
AJT Jul 11 #1
elleng Jul 11 #2
Salviati Jul 12 #3
CentralMass Jul 12 #4
hunter Jul 12 #5
Hekate Jul 12 #6
Stinky The Clown Jul 12 #7
Caliman73 Jul 12 #8

Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 11:12 PM

1. I agree. It's sad that we always buy right into it.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 11:15 PM

2. Not 'organic,' and with help.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2019, 12:44 AM

3. Regardless of how it got started...

I think that the chances are 100% that the russians are stoking the flames

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2019, 01:14 AM

4. What war ?

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2019, 01:24 AM

5. Something like this?

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2019, 03:01 AM

6. Mostly I thnk the Russkies just need to throw a little oil on the smoldering embers & watch us...

...do the rest. I am goddam sick of watching so-called Dems and so-called progressives self-righteously form the circular firing squad yet again. I'm way too old for this -- I just want to grab someone's shoulders and shake them till their teeth rattle.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #6)

Fri Jul 12, 2019, 01:56 PM

7. Yup, I am right there with ya!

I can't help but wonder if there isn't also some money exchanging hands to support some of this bullshit.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Fri Jul 12, 2019, 02:09 PM

8. I don't think it is Russians.

There have always been inter-generational struggles as well as struggles from within the spectrum of the Democratic Party. Remember that we represent everyone from Conservatives like Manchin, to Democratic Socialists. The left has always seen the "establishment" as being in the way of "true progress". The older experienced "establishment" have seen the younger, more aggressive lefties as impertinent and rash (the way they once were).

Remember what Will Rogers said back in the 1930's: I am not a member of any organized political party....I'm a Democrat.

Conservatives have one ideological imperative: Protect the power structure and allow the wealthy (and White) to remain wealthy and in power. That is it. That is what they are about.

Liberals of which most Democrats are have a multitude of issues and they pursue them with varying degrees of intensity. That always makes for conflict but it is what is needed for progress.

The difference in the modern age is that media is consolidated and corporate, and social media (also corporate now) is instantaneous. Fights that would likely have not made a blip on the radar back in the 30's or 50's or 80's or even the 90's are now amplified and analyzed and repeated by a 24 hour news cycle that thrives on conflict and for the most part is designed to maintain the status quo.

The Russians don't need to be involved in this aspect.

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