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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 12:22 PM Jun 2019

Oh, I'm Sorry, MAGAflakes, Did "Concentration Camps" Bother You?

Well, you’d better pull on your big boy hoods, because there’s another word you’ll be crying about soon.

The conditions described by doctors, lawyers and others who have witnessed first-hand the camps holding detained asylum seekers—sleeping on bare concrete, deprivation of food, sleep, hygienic conditions—are techniques of torture and, whatever the opinions of a Cheney or a Yoo, are against United States law and treaties of which the US is signatory .

So, I’m sorry you got so upset when it was pointed out, correctly, that the US is now running concentration camps, but, as it becomes clear what is going on in those camps, every supporter of the current administration must be made to answer:

Why do you support torturing children?
Why do you support torturing children?
Stop torturing children.


[link:https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/6/24/1866874/-Oh-I-m-Sorry-MAGAflakes-Did-Concentration-Camps-Bother-You?utm_campaign=recent|

Child Torture is not a good look....
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Oh, I'm Sorry, MAGAflakes, Did "Concentration Camps" Bother You? (Original Post) Soph0571 Jun 2019 OP
They're triggered snowflakes. Initech Jun 2019 #1
Nothing wrong with going Coach/Drill Sargent on them now underpants Jun 2019 #2
fuck them; I'm not pulling punches anymore anarch Jun 2019 #4
FB Frienemies snowybirdie Jun 2019 #3
If they say that to you lunatica Jun 2019 #14
They got that from Benghazi treestar Jun 2019 #26
If you look up the definition...they are fitting within it so it's not trying to trigger anyone it's UniteFightBack Jun 2019 #5
To be truthful, the term 'Concentration Camps' bothered a number of folks right here as well. pangaia Jun 2019 #6
It makes one wonder if they know history lunatica Jun 2019 #16
A few of the comments were from folks here who had some direct connection pangaia Jun 2019 #18
"Not yet" happening is right lunatica Jun 2019 #20
disease is cheaper than bullets... pangaia Jun 2019 #22
In Argentina, the junta gave the children of the "disappeared" to wealthy families and officers dawg day Jun 2019 #31
Yes, they did lunatica Jun 2019 #32
I posted this is another thread. saidsimplesimon Jun 2019 #7
Check the Unitarians. Check Tikkun. Google... Hekate Jun 2019 #10
My first category was Protest Leadership, saidsimplesimon Jun 2019 #11
Perhaps a few will, eventually. Duppers Jun 2019 #28
You're forgetting: they're not children. Still In Wisconsin Jun 2019 #8
The National Trumpist White Peoples' Party Traffic Interruptus Jun 2019 #9
Child neglect, child abuse, contributing to a child's death. Fla Dem Jun 2019 #12
I thought they hated PC. Loved Trump for "telling it like it is." Suck it up, suckers! Nitram Jun 2019 #13
Yeah remember these guys? Initech Jun 2019 #15
They must have great rage sex! lunatica Jun 2019 #17
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2019 #24
Here's a few more words that may cause pause with the MAGAt snowflakes... Raster Jun 2019 #19
Exactly. Nitram Jun 2019 #21
I hate to say it but Danascot Jun 2019 #23
The gop representatives Scarsdale Jun 2019 #25
Former Chief of Staff Kelly is involved in this, I forget how but he is. redstatebluegirl Jun 2019 #27
I am certain 2naSalit Jun 2019 #30
No, what really bothers them is hearing from a WOMAN with a backbone. Ferrets are Cool Jun 2019 #29

underpants

(182,802 posts)
2. Nothing wrong with going Coach/Drill Sargent on them now
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 12:28 PM
Jun 2019

It won't change their cult minds but someone near might here it.

anarch

(6,535 posts)
4. fuck them; I'm not pulling punches anymore
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 12:58 PM
Jun 2019

I'm done being "polite;" these fuckers need to know what the civilized world thinks of them.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
14. If they say that to you
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 02:24 PM
Jun 2019

you should respond with derision at their personal gullibility. Just do the equivalent of pointing a finger at them and doubling over with side-splitting laughter.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
5. If you look up the definition...they are fitting within it so it's not trying to trigger anyone it's
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 01:25 PM
Jun 2019

what it is.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
16. It makes one wonder if they know history
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 02:35 PM
Jun 2019

Being ignorant of how history actually plays out can be fixed.

The Holocaust Museum claims it can happen again, to any group. Or is there something specific that needs to happen to convince some people that a group of people are deliberately being treated in cruel and inhuman ways, though they have broken no law? What does it take to convince? How bad does it have to get?

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
18. A few of the comments were from folks here who had some direct connection
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 02:43 PM
Jun 2019

to the concentration camps during WW2-- relatives, friends, etc. Some expressed the fact that there is not mass intentional murder happening here...but I would add...not MASS, and YET.

So I can certainly understand their emotional connection, and their "taking offense,' or umbrage, at the current situation being compared to Nazi concentration camps.

Nevertheless, these ARE, by any definition, just that.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
20. "Not yet" happening is right
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 03:11 PM
Jun 2019

I haven’t seen any believable exit plan for those children. When will the children be released? Obviously not when their parents claim them because the children have been forcibly taken from said parents in the first place. And the parents, seeking our government’s help are being held also, like criminals.

On the contrary, our government is privatizing the treatment of these children, opening long abandoned internment camps, building “camps” far away in the desert, difficult to access and which are off limits to everyone, run by cruel people whom our government picks. People who apparently have the permission to punish them at will, with no justification. People who think it’s their right to abuse and mistreat children. Children who are lost in the Trump system. Who can't be found.

What does Trump plan for these children’s future? They aren’t keeping track of the family ties, so who are they going to give the children to?

If children are denied the most basic needs which are fundamental to health how long before they start dying of contagious diseases? Especially when their health is in the hands of jailers who deny them fundamental hygiene tools. What is the purpose of rushing disease on these children?

What is Trump’s end game. What does he plan to do?

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
31. In Argentina, the junta gave the children of the "disappeared" to wealthy families and officers
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 12:00 PM
Jun 2019

supposedly to be adopted.

One of Trump's guys months ago was intimating they might do something like that here.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
32. Yes, they did
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 02:03 PM
Jun 2019

Interestingly enough their grandmothers, the Mothers of Plaza de Mayo, were the ones who asked doctors to find their grandchildren through Genetic testing. I saw a documentary many years ago that claimed it had never been done before. This group of grandmothers, who were the Mothers of the Plaza de Mayo is still active today.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandmothers_of_the_Plaza_de_Mayo

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
7. I posted this is another thread.
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 01:30 PM
Jun 2019

It seems like I get stuck in the research phase and et viola.

I have been doing some personal research of religious organizations looking for published articles, speeches or other actions from their leadership. Checked Rome, nada word, and down my list I go, looking for any sign any church has done anything for our precious children. If they don't stand to defend the children then they will never stand for anything. imo

Hekate

(90,681 posts)
10. Check the Unitarians. Check Tikkun. Google...
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 01:51 PM
Jun 2019

Google "religious denominations opposing Trump immigrant prisons"

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
28. Perhaps a few will, eventually.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 11:42 AM
Jun 2019

Perhaps. But most of them seem to feel Trump is their lord and savior.

Atheist groups, on the other hand, will be quick to condemn this.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
8. You're forgetting: they're not children.
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 01:40 PM
Jun 2019

No, they should be thought of as future rapists and drug dealers. TRUMP said so.

Fla Dem

(23,666 posts)
12. Child neglect, child abuse, contributing to a child's death.
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 01:55 PM
Jun 2019

If any parent had done these things they would be arrested and the children taken away from them. Trump and all those who have a hand in this disgrace and abuse should be arrested. No congressional hearings, just outright arrested by the police forces in whatever local this is happening.

To not do so is a dereliction of duty by those municipalities.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
19. Here's a few more words that may cause pause with the MAGAt snowflakes...
Mon Jun 24, 2019, 02:50 PM
Jun 2019

...CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.

Danascot

(4,690 posts)
23. I hate to say it but
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 10:04 AM
Jun 2019

someone has to get out photos and video of these kids and the conditions they're living in. It's one thing to read about these horrors but it's another thing to see it.

TV coverage helped swing public opinion to end the Viet Nam war by bringing it into people's living rooms. Photos and video would help end this outrage.



Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
25. The gop representatives
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 11:30 AM
Jun 2019

for these areas need to answer some questions. Why is it costing $700 a day per child for this sub par treatment? Who is in charge of these facilities, and being paid? How do they intend to reunite these kids with parents, and how soon?

2naSalit

(86,605 posts)
30. I am certain
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 11:47 AM
Jun 2019

that they are intended to be trafficked into some kind of horrid slavery where they aren't meant to survive their childhood. I am certain that there are many in this regime who are involved in the global network. perhaps Epstein would reveal that if he were convicted.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
29. No, what really bothers them is hearing from a WOMAN with a backbone.
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 11:44 AM
Jun 2019

That is what they hate. (as well as 1000 other things that might help anyone other than themselves.)

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