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kentuck

(112,877 posts)
Fri May 17, 2019, 04:45 AM May 2019

It appears that General Flynn is about to help Trump and Barr get to the "origins" of investigation?

There is a recording and an unredacted portion of a transcript of a phone call, that has been ordered to be released by Judge Emmett Sullivan.

A "personal lawyer" has a conversation with the General that sounds a lot like witness tampering. It is my understanding that if he is charged, there is no "executive immunity". There could also be obstruction of justice.

It will be interesting to hear Robert Mueller's comment on this.

Also, it could implicate others, including Donald Trump, in the discussion with the Russian Ambassador, Kisylak. If there is a quid pro quo mentioned, that could be bad news for Mr Trump.

It is getting rather interesting.

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It appears that General Flynn is about to help Trump and Barr get to the "origins" of investigation? (Original Post) kentuck May 2019 OP
Not surprised if... Mike Nelson May 2019 #1
But the majority of Americans will care.... kentuck May 2019 #3
I agree... Mike Nelson May 2019 #4
The unrelenting flow of incriminating information through the holes in the dikes of empedocles May 2019 #14
Apparently Mueller didn't care either. dem4decades May 2019 #7
I always said... Mike Nelson May 2019 #9
You speak sense DeeDeeNY May 2019 #16
Exactly! justie18 May 2019 #20
Mueller gave General Flynn a big break for his cooperation... kentuck May 2019 #12
From what I heard on Rachel last night, madaboutharry May 2019 #2
Rachel seemed enthusiastic that the Judge was doing a good thing. empedocles May 2019 #13
i hear its john dowd. but unsure Kurt V. May 2019 #5
One of the guests on Lawrence last night watoos May 2019 #6
It all depends how much coverage watoos May 2019 #8
This is why I believe Nancy et al rainy May 2019 #19
Seems to me rownesheck May 2019 #10
Yip, it seems my college professor back in the 60's was wrong, watoos May 2019 #11
All this was known, yet we were stalled because Baitball Blogger May 2019 #15
Truth delayed is truth denied. kentuck May 2019 #17
Doesn't Flynn's plea agreement require him to cooperate DeminPennswoods May 2019 #18

Mike Nelson

(10,309 posts)
1. Not surprised if...
Fri May 17, 2019, 04:50 AM
May 2019

… the origins lead to the orange one. Trump supporters and most Republicans won't care, however.

kentuck

(112,877 posts)
3. But the majority of Americans will care....
Fri May 17, 2019, 04:51 AM
May 2019

..in my opinion.

And that could be bad news for the Trump Party at the polls.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
14. The unrelenting flow of incriminating information through the holes in the dikes of
Fri May 17, 2019, 05:53 AM
May 2019

trump's defenses can hurt trump. I agree.

Mike Nelson

(10,309 posts)
9. I always said...
Fri May 17, 2019, 05:09 AM
May 2019

… he released one statement during the investigation - supportive of Trump. He may not have leaked the disappointment in Barr stuff - that could have been people on his staff. My jury is still out on Mueller - he has a telephone and he can look up the phone numbers for the NYT, WP, 60 minutes, or anyone else... the person in the office of President matters; the security of the country matters - there should be no margin of error.

DeeDeeNY

(3,516 posts)
16. You speak sense
Fri May 17, 2019, 06:47 AM
May 2019

Not questioning Don Jr was strange. And he is not looking to set the record straight on anything, judging by how his negotiations” to come in and testify to the House are dragging on. There are a lot of unanswered questions.

justie18

(169 posts)
20. Exactly!
Fri May 17, 2019, 07:22 AM
May 2019

We should not get our hopes up. Not questioning Don Jr. was inexplicable. How would he know Don Jr. was ignorant of campaign finance laws if he was never interrogated. He also left the sharing of poling data with KK unresolved. Also, what happened to the counter-intelligence investigation?

kentuck

(112,877 posts)
12. Mueller gave General Flynn a big break for his cooperation...
Fri May 17, 2019, 05:30 AM
May 2019

...and the Judge did not agree with it at the last sentencing.

Mueller seemed to be partial to generals and military service?

He didn't charge Flynn with "possible obstruction" because of the cooperation agreement he made with him, perhaps?

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
6. One of the guests on Lawrence last night
Fri May 17, 2019, 05:01 AM
May 2019

threw out Dowd's name, maybe it was even Lawrence himself, I forget.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
8. It all depends how much coverage
Fri May 17, 2019, 05:04 AM
May 2019

the complicit M$M gives this. I would hope that an audio recording would get more coverage but the M$M is complicit with the right wing traitors.

rainy

(6,217 posts)
19. This is why I believe Nancy et al
Fri May 17, 2019, 06:58 AM
May 2019

are so reluctant to make bold moves. The press protects the right because of their owners and donors and advertisers.

rownesheck

(2,343 posts)
10. Seems to me
Fri May 17, 2019, 05:09 AM
May 2019

the ratio of evidence to convictions is way off. If we were looking at a scale, the evidence side has fallen through the floor. Our justice system operates like molasses when you're rich and white.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
11. Yip, it seems my college professor back in the 60's was wrong,
Fri May 17, 2019, 05:28 AM
May 2019

when he told us there were 2 systems of justice, there are 3. 1 for the poor, 1 for the rich, and 1 for Republicans.

Baitball Blogger

(48,200 posts)
15. All this was known, yet we were stalled because
Fri May 17, 2019, 06:37 AM
May 2019

The truth was withheld from us. Think about how much of Trump’s agenda has been executed because we were denied the truth at the time that the investigators knew it. Someone should pay for this.

DeminPennswoods

(16,333 posts)
18. Doesn't Flynn's plea agreement require him to cooperate
Fri May 17, 2019, 06:54 AM
May 2019

with all investigations? I know Nadler, Schiff, etc want Mueller and McGahn first, but since Flynn is legally obligated to cooperate, he might make a very nice leadoff witness for the Judiciary Committee. Given his case is being handled by Judge Sullivan, who could decide to throw the book at him and who literally suggested Flynn should find ways to cooperate more, he might not be willing to comply with Trump's order of "omerta". His testimony could be as significant as John Dean's was during Watergate.

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