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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy aren't the Bushes, Reagans, McCains, Romneys, Christie
and other erstwhile GOP leaders including every other R 2016 Prez candidate out on the stump railing against trump (it's rhetorical, I know..)?
They should be out front screaming at the top of their lungs about this monster! Chicken shits. Not a patriot among them. The Bushes know better...
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)The "Freedom Caucus" is the rethuglicon way forward and they must be stopped.
mountain grammy
(26,728 posts)Its that simple. Greed wins.
abqtommy
(14,118 posts)Bushes, Reagans, McCains, Romneys, Christie et al among those who support him.
Funtatlaguy
(10,928 posts)riverine
(516 posts)the 11th Commandment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eleventh_Commandment_(Ronald_Reagan)
BlueJac
(7,838 posts)they just don't care, winning and money is all they really want!!!
ScratchCat
(2,049 posts)I mistakenly believed that all living ex-Presidents and all living former GOP Presidential Candidates would have privately or publicly begged Trump to resign by now. I actually envisioned the Bushes, Carter, Clinton and Obama going to the Oval Office and telling him he has to for the good of the country, and then go public shortly afterwards. Seriously, I thought we'd be there by now.
I keep saying, it makes NO SENSE for them to not dump Trump and move forward with Pence. And at some point when Don sees he isn't winning in 2020, it will happen.
WyattKansas
(1,648 posts)Getting everything that they have always wanted all their way. From locking up judiciary picks for decades to dismantling everything the American People gained the last decade in spite of republican obstruction. Simply put, they want the bottom 70% to be subjects to their abuses and the 25% above them to be soldiers that enforce their way.
Even if you think republicans are in agreement with you, they will crawfish on you and knife you in the back at their first opportunity. Every republican even has the audacity and delusional dysfunction to think they are in the top 5% and think they have the right to bully everyone below them.
Chin music
(23,071 posts)java108
(129 posts)It's the right wing credo.
Autumn
(45,132 posts)matt819
(10,749 posts)Cowards.
And hypocrites.
OK, three words.
Irishxs
(622 posts)Generic Brad
(14,281 posts)Sometimes theres just not enough rocks.
Blue Owl
(50,855 posts)IronLionZion
(45,802 posts)what else do they want?
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)tblue37
(65,678 posts)Farmer-Rick
(10,302 posts)They don't represent the people. They only try to get crazy stupid people to vote for them. They don't represent them. They use propaganda and foreign spies to get guliable people to support them.
So, the answer is....... the richest, the most succesful, the wealthiest, the Koch bros, Waltons and all the other wealthiest Americans, no matter what foundations or bits of charity they dribble out, are Very, Very Happy with Trump and the GOP.
The American capitalist kings are the ones who want this. They are orchestrating this. They are stranggling democracy because they want to be rid of it. They All are Involved, even your favorite uber rich person is involved.
It's Not a political party or philosophically conservative group that is behind Trump. It is the 0.7% richest, most lucky, most blessed with so much wealth they could never spend it all in a lifetime, that is doing this to the rest of us. Notice hardly a peep from them?
This is the goal of their class warfare and it is nearing the end....destruction of democracy with the American capitalist kings carefully hidden behind the GOP.
jalan48
(13,967 posts)cilla4progress
(24,878 posts)spanone
(136,086 posts)kairos12
(12,947 posts)Nitram
(23,204 posts)melm00se
(5,002 posts)I would wait until the last moment and then collectively (and metaphorically) stick a knife in him. If you give the jerkweed time to recognize the threat, you run the risk of him avoiding the desired outcome. If you sneak up on him, you can get the one blow needed to take him out of the race.
I have relatives who are as rightwing as they come and they are not really interested in voting for him again.
LakeArenal
(28,992 posts)And Dick Cheney. Not much chance they will openly turn.
McCain followed the GOP and gave us Palin with no vetting and Meghan
EleanorR
(2,406 posts)She worked for him for 8 years both in Texas and in DC. Bush personally called Susan Collins to encourage her to back Kavanaugh's confirmation. Not that she likely needed much prodding.
spanone
(136,086 posts)ANY republican upset by what trump is doing to our country???? Bueller?
dogman
(6,073 posts)t-Rump is just the boil surfacing. Does anyone really believe the gop will ever surrender their total power?
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)are expendable, so they don't give a F about them. Their main interests are money and power. As long as tRump has an R behind his name, he can do anything he damn well pleases. Don't look for any of them to do a damn thing. And many are outright cowards.
elleng
(131,823 posts)The Reagans are, I've heard both Ron and Patti.
NNadir
(33,621 posts)Christie has never even dreamed of having a shred of integrity. Why would he do so now?
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)most strikingly being revealed in Nixon's presidency, but growing in strength and building on itself over the decades. Maybe read John Dean's "Worse than Watergate" about W's presidency, the authoritarianism, undermining of democracy, imbedding of corruption. It's not all that long, a fascinating read, and some of the same people are still in government and/or influencing policy from outside today.
As always, Trump is a symptom of the disease, not the disease itself. The world's wealth has more than quadrupled over the past 40 years, and much went into creating new ultra-wealthy classes whose very existence is inimical to democratic republics.
This anti-democracy, authoritarian cancer was always with us in weak form but now is spreading around the planet, funded by the enormous new wealth and powered by the great new anxieties and angers of billions, many of whom turn to destructive populist movements that feed off it to gain power.
The Tea Party was a populist "anti-elite" movement that was actually secretly organized, funded and directed by the Kochs and their allies, and they used it to defeat Democrats and gain great power. Trump is a populist "anti-elite" leader also meant to be a rebellion against those who control the Republican Party but whose presidency is also mostly directed to the benefit of the very wealthy and their allies in seeking power, the religious right and white nationalists.
I'd hoped that two terms of Hillary following Obama, with Democrats holding the senate and much of the house, would reestablish enough sense of stability and wellbeing to calm a lot of the anxiety here and continue the cutting of the wannabe kleptocrats and oligarchs down to size that Obama had started.
Nancy Pelosi at her swearing-in:
Let us declare that we will call upon the bold thinking needed to address the disparity of income in America which is at the root of the crisis of confidence felt by so many Americans.
As Justice Brandeis said, We may have democracy, or we may have wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we cant have both.
We must end that injustice and restore the publics faith in a better future for themselves and their children.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)But Patti Davis and Ron Reagan, Jr. have still been very vocal in their crtiticism.
Christie's too busy defending him.