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Lex

(34,108 posts)
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 09:15 PM Aug 2012

". . . probably sounded better in the original German." -- Molly Ivin's quip re: 1992 GOP Convention

when Pat Buchanan spoke one night during the Convention. I remember that quote so well and now think of it at EVERY Republican Convention since.


More context from Wikipedia:
On the subject of Pat Buchanan's famously combative Culture War Speech at the 1992 Republican Convention, which attracted controversy over Buchanan's aggressive rhetoric against Bill Clinton, liberals, supporters of reproductive and gay rights, and for his comparison of American politics to religious warfare, Ivins famously quipped that the speech had "probably sounded better in the original German," noting the similarity between the concept of "culture war" and the Kulturkampf of Otto von Bismarck's Germany.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molly_Ivins

I miss her!


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". . . probably sounded better in the original German." -- Molly Ivin's quip re: 1992 GOP Convention (Original Post) Lex Aug 2012 OP
A jewel! CrispyQ Aug 2012 #1
how I wish she were here Skittles Aug 2012 #2
I chuckle every time I'm reminded eissa Aug 2012 #3
Yes, I miss her and wish she'd got to see Obama elected. She'd've made epic comments on the Teas. freshwest Aug 2012 #4
Sadly, her statement might be more true today. The GOP is working to blame JoePhilly Aug 2012 #5
Kulturkampf had the opposite goal of Buchanan cojoel Aug 2012 #6
I remember reading that column Le Taz Hot Aug 2012 #7

eissa

(4,238 posts)
3. I chuckle every time I'm reminded
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 09:34 PM
Aug 2012

of Molly's many wonderful quotes, particularly this one. How I wish she could have witnessed the Obama presidency.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
4. Yes, I miss her and wish she'd got to see Obama elected. She'd've made epic comments on the Teas.
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 09:49 PM
Aug 2012

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
5. Sadly, her statement might be more true today. The GOP is working to blame
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 09:53 PM
Aug 2012

various groups for the issues we face as a nation, in an attempt to create a nationalistic group of "patriots" who must destroy the "scary others".

cojoel

(972 posts)
6. Kulturkampf had the opposite goal of Buchanan
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 11:06 PM
Aug 2012

Bismarck's goals of the Kulturkampf was to eliminate church (specifically Vatican) influence in German political affaris, but better unify the German states into a nation. Buchanan's (and much of the Right-wing GOP it would seem) wants to have greater church (not necessarily limited to or in the view of some even including Vatican) influence in American political affairs.

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