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IndyOp

(15,525 posts)
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 09:31 AM Apr 2019

So, apparently, we are his enemy

Saying that “those people” - any enemy - kill babies is what warring factions say about each other. Saying this elicits deep disgust and rage.

Remember the propagandists swaying much of the American public to believe invading Iraq was necessary because the Iraqi army was pulling babies out of incubators in Kuwait and leaving them on the floor to die? Journalists who rushed to the hospital were met with nurses who showed them babies occupying most incubators and some empty incubators and said that no one had disturbed the ward. But it was too late.

This type of message is extremely effective with individuals who see themselves as vulnerable targets in a world that is often overwhelming - the same individuals who identify with “vulnerable” fetuses and see themselves as trying to rescue “babies” by stopping all abortions.

Journalists have long been Trump’s enemy. Now he has declared that we are his enemy.

Decades of “pro-life” messaging has prepared millions and millions of Americans to see other Americans as the enemy.

Now, the dear leader is speaking the message aloud.

To anyone talking about letting investigations or impeachment hearings go on for months or a year or more - time is up. Jail personnel who will not respond to lawfully issued subpoenas. Subpoena Mueller and a dozen of his lead investigators. Impeach Barr. Demand a psych evaluation of the President and get him out of office.

I sincerely fear that the level of violence is going to rise. (I’m tempted to say more, but don’t want to add any more fuel to the raging fire.)





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So, apparently, we are his enemy (Original Post) IndyOp Apr 2019 OP
Talk Radio & Faux have demonized Liberals for many many years. Boxerfan Apr 2019 #1
And Liberals/Democrats need to realize that their trump loving family members hate them too nt maryellen99 Apr 2019 #2
Yes, they do. Lars39 Apr 2019 #4
My sister threw me out of the family, "because we no longer had anything in common" pazzyanne Apr 2019 #9
Suits me. The feeling is mutual. (nt) Paladin Apr 2019 #10
He was speaking to his "troops" at the time. Mopar151 Apr 2019 #3
Regrettably, I agree. The time to act is now, swiftly and with no mercy. Firestorm49 Apr 2019 #5
This type of message is extremely effective with individuals who see themselves as vulnerable target pangaia Apr 2019 #6
IMO that's why multiple nonstop investigations of tRumpy NoMoreRepugs Apr 2019 #7
He will do anything to keep from being exposed for what he is, LuvNewcastle Apr 2019 #8
In a way, he sort of is FakeNoose Apr 2019 #12
Too many amphetamines can make you psychotic. LuvNewcastle Apr 2019 #13
Post removed Post removed Apr 2019 #17
They've been using war language for a while now IronLionZion Apr 2019 #11
Yep. From the time he started his campaign. GoCubsGo Apr 2019 #16
This is even more graphic than ripping babies from wombs rhetoric salin Apr 2019 #14
tRump & his fellow fascists enemies of Democracy. nt yaesu Apr 2019 #15
Nowhere is the bible does it substantiate life before birth and it's first breath. TheBlackAdder Apr 2019 #18
Unfortunately true. calimary Apr 2019 #19

Boxerfan

(2,533 posts)
1. Talk Radio & Faux have demonized Liberals for many many years.
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 09:34 AM
Apr 2019

This is a tree that they know will bear "strange fruit".

If you are just realizing that-welcome to reality-but it is not new.

Lars39

(26,109 posts)
4. Yes, they do.
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 09:47 AM
Apr 2019

Saw this firsthand when my husband revealed that he was a Democrat. MIL tried to take it out on me. Her passive-aggressive anger was something to behold.

pazzyanne

(6,556 posts)
9. My sister threw me out of the family, "because we no longer had anything in common"
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 11:49 AM
Apr 2019

and because I couldn't say anything nice about the tRump. To my credit, I did not say anything that I could not prove, and reminded her that I knew things about tRump starting from the 1960's. She is right about having no common ground for the orange POS.

Mopar151

(9,990 posts)
3. He was speaking to his "troops" at the time.
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 09:40 AM
Apr 2019

The "Cold, Dead Hands!" chumps are being primed up to wave their penis substitutes high when "Oh, Dear, Leader!" is cuffed and stuffed!

Firestorm49

(4,035 posts)
5. Regrettably, I agree. The time to act is now, swiftly and with no mercy.
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 09:56 AM
Apr 2019

This clown show had only gotten worse by the day. Republicans who chastised Obama for utilizing executive orders when he could get nothing done with the House and Senate against him, are the same ones flagrantly defying the laws that are meant to govern us all.

It’s time to put up or shut up or go down in flames.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
6. This type of message is extremely effective with individuals who see themselves as vulnerable target
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 10:49 AM
Apr 2019


WE need to do something of this type of messaging, but with THE TRUTH.

OVER AND OVER AND OVER, DAY AFTER DAY, HOUR AFTER HOUR.... BEAT IT INTO CITIZENS what the fuck is going on...

NoMoreRepugs

(9,438 posts)
7. IMO that's why multiple nonstop investigations of tRumpy
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 11:23 AM
Apr 2019

and his minions are so necessary. Flood the airwaves every day all day with their misdeeds and primarily the TRUTH and sentiment will swing our way. If the case is built through the investigations by following the Mueller roadmap than Impeachment it is. But fact spilling investigations first.

LuvNewcastle

(16,847 posts)
8. He will do anything to keep from being exposed for what he is,
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 11:41 AM
Apr 2019

even if it means starting a civil war. He has absolutely no scruples and there is no depth to which he will not sink. Donald Trump is an antichrist, and we'll be lucky if he doesn't drag this country to hell like Hitler did to Germany.

FakeNoose

(32,659 posts)
12. In a way, he sort of is
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 12:15 PM
Apr 2019

He seems to be showing a Satanic side anyway. Speculation about Chump being the "anti-Christ" is goofy IMHO, but there's definitely something evil & crazy that we're seeing now.

Hitler was completely demented, and his generals all knew they would lose the war. Any of the military who suggested they would lose got taken out and shot, because Hitler wouldn't hear of it. So they all lied to him and many of them made plans to get out before it was over.

LuvNewcastle

(16,847 posts)
13. Too many amphetamines can make you psychotic.
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 12:25 PM
Apr 2019

I think it's interesting that Hitler was hooked on them just as Donald is hooked on Adderall. I'm wondering if the military is going to have to step in and do something about this. Donald doesn't respect or even recognize any civilian authority over him. I'm much more afraid for this country now than I was on 9/11.

Response to LuvNewcastle (Reply #8)

IronLionZion

(45,466 posts)
11. They've been using war language for a while now
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 12:11 PM
Apr 2019

to encourage hate and division because it makes it easier for people to accept the unacceptable since terrible atrocities happen in war.

Since it's war and we're the enemy, it makes it easier for Trump supporters to normalize hate crimes.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
16. Yep. From the time he started his campaign.
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 12:44 PM
Apr 2019

It has been obvious from the start that anyone who is not part of his cult is "the enemy."

salin

(48,955 posts)
14. This is even more graphic than ripping babies from wombs rhetoric
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 12:28 PM
Apr 2019

that he used in the third debate. Just as ugly and caustic - but amped up/and further weaponized.

I read a tweet response that was perfect. (my paraphrase) Imagine a president really believed this was happening, in his country, in real time, who went golfing every weekend.

It captures the disconnect between the ugly words, and gap between serious concern via actions, that allow for a bit of cognitive dissonance to creep in. Too bad the cultists are unlikely to see/hear/read such thoughts.

Side note - it is good to see you IndyOp. I hope you are well.

TheBlackAdder

(28,209 posts)
18. Nowhere is the bible does it substantiate life before birth and it's first breath.
Mon Apr 29, 2019, 01:11 PM
Apr 2019

.

But Numbers 5:11-31 supports the case for abortion.

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