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[lame54]

1. And your sources are?

[DontBooVote]

2. Me. Myself. And I. Now what?

[UniteFightBack]

23. How bout your check your own self instead of telling everybody else to. nt

[lame54]

66. Hardly the BBC...

By the way it was a legit question and a chance for you to steer us toward legitimate sources

But I guess you went another way with it

[TheBlackAdder]

43. Hmm. If I read this OP, then I support this OP and contribute to the mind fuck that this OP is.

[Wounded Bear]

3. Your opinion is duly noted...

[DontBooVote]

4. If you support cable news, you are part of the problem. Do you support cable news?

[Wounded Bear]

6. I watch who I choose to...

[DontBooVote]

8. If you watch cable news, then you are helping them to catapult the propaganda. Are you

proud that you contribute to their ratings?

[Wounded Bear]

13. As I said, your opinion is noted...nt

[DontBooVote]

14. I detect derision in your response based on my low post count. Are you proud that you contribute

to the ratings of cable news orgs and continue to manipulate and propagandize and disparage our party and our people?

[Wounded Bear]

30. You noticed...

I'm not a fan of declarative internet posts that attempt to shame me into making a false decision based on somebody else's opinions.

Post count doesn't have much to do with it. Content is what is suspect.

[Dennis Donovan]

5. You're clearly conflating all cable news networks...

MSNBC is not Faux News...

[DontBooVote]

9. Only 1/8 of all MSNBC programming is worth even a tiny bit of serious consideration. The rest is

propaganda and mind-fuck.

[watoos]

47. I agree with that statement,

msnbc isn't much better than Fox. I only watch Nicolle Wallace and Rachel Maddow.

I have used this analogy before.

Fox says that Obama beats his wife.
Cnn says it needs more information.
msnbc says No he doesn't.

All 3 networks are talking about the same far right talking point. msnbc merely puts a liberal slant to the right wing narrative.

It isn't about ratings, it's about American oligarchs controlling the message.

Phil Donahue, Olbermann, Uygur, Ed Schultz, Brashear, Dylan Ratigan, Harris/Perry were all popular. msnbc fired them because they all strayed from the right wing narratives.

As far as boycotting them, I will continue to watch Nicolle and Rachel, and even tune in to Don Lemon or once in a blue moon Shep Smith. Basically I only watch 2 shows.

[redstateblues]

99. Ed Shultz? Really? The same guy who was on Russia TV

[chillfactor]

7. Sorry but I strongly disagree

if you had said FAUX "news" then I would have agreed.

[DontBooVote]

10. 7/8 of the programming on MNSBC is mind-fuck propaganda. They are 7/8 guilty.

[manor321]

11. I've been doing that since the early 2000s

So I try to only watch consistently good shows. I'm really just down to Rachel and Lawrence with the occasional Nicole Wallace on big news days. So much else is trash. CNN is a dumpster fire.

[UniteFightBack]

17. Oh look you and rump both agree that CNN is a dumpster fire. nt

[obnoxiousdrunk]

12. Some say

RT is a good source and they don't care about ratings.

[defacto7]

61. uh... no.

[Separation]

122. In best Boris from Bullwinkle show

Da, ra, yes. RT is most trustworthy of all the news that is good g'news. It is strong like Russian winter, and potent as strong bull.

There are more than one way to Начистить репу.

[ismnotwasm]

15. What happened to the pit bull thread?

[DontBooVote]

18. I don't know. I don't think I participated in that thread. I know I was going to say that they seem

to be favored by certain demographics of people but decided I didn't have more than my own observations in my own world and that I would need a bigger sampling than I had from which to draw a reasonable conclusion. So I deferred. IIRC.

[jberryhill]

27. There was a pit bull thread?

[DontBooVote]

36. IKR! I ❤ Pittbull!

[jberryhill]

80. Mr. Worldwide!

[ismnotwasm]

62. Yup

As glorious as usual. It seems to have faded early though

[jberryhill]

79. We haven't done circumcision in a while.

[A HERETIC I AM]

84. Or Hooters

[ismnotwasm]

131. Or breast feeding in public

Or kids in theaters for that matter..on edit was it kids in restaurants?

[UniteFightBack]

16. Please stop repeating right wing talking points. nt

[DontBooVote]

21. Cable news is a mind-fuck. That's not a right-wing talking point, it's a fact. But, ...

...thanks for playing.

[UniteFightBack]

26. Ok but I'm not the one carrying on like my mind is fucked....good day to you. nt

[DontBooVote]

33. I didn't say you were. I said cable news is a mind-fuck and if you watch them, you support their

ratings, therefore you support them.

That's what I said.

Do you support cable news?

[UniteFightBack]

35. Yes I do. I support ALL MEDIA....especially in this current climate. Not sure what people aren't

getting about that. They'd rather stand on their soapboxes and say how 'news pure' they are. Just ugh.

[DontBooVote]

37. Perhaps you should go back and read where I said "cable news". I didn't include ALL MEDIA. But,

you knew that.

[UniteFightBack]

38. Maybe you should go back to where I said. YES I DO...meaning cable news...then I went on to say I

support ALL MEDIA. Got it now?

[DontBooVote]

41. Cable news actively manipulates its audience. Do you deny this?

[UniteFightBack]

46. I'm doing just fine thanks....and I'm done here. See you around no doubt! nt

[DontBooVote]

49. Okie-dokie, then, see you 'round.

[Eko]

136. What media doesnt?

[watoos]

59. I'm with you 7/8 of the way,

however it's not about ratings. The 3 cable news networks are complicit with right wing talking points (propaganda)

You can flip channels at the top of the hour and see the same code words, the same phrases being used on all 3 networks. If it was about ratings Keith Olbermann would be on a 9 PM slot. American oligarchs only care about controlling the narrative. The people on cable news are robots reading from a script.

The notion that cable news networks are in it for the ratings is a right wing talking point.

[DontBooVote]

63. And yet when I post about it, I'm all of a sudden a right-wingers whose comment is "duly noted"...

What the actual goddamned fuck?

I'm scared to death for my children/grands! And I see the very same complaints here daily!

[watoos]

82. I'm 71 years old,

I remember back when Phil Donahue and Tweety were at odds. Tweety was pro Iraq war and Donahue was anti-Iraq. msnbc fired Donahue.

Sweet Judy Miller who got a pro war article from Dick Cheney printed it in the NY Times under her name, then Cheney and his neo-con buddies hit all the talk shows and quoted sweet Judy. That article was a big catalyst for our invasion of Iraq.

[Hekate]

28. You may have spotted the problem

[DontBooVote]

31. Cable news is the problem. If you watch them, you support them.

[Hekate]

32. Enemies of the people, eh?

[DontBooVote]

34. Do you support cable news, which lies to us and manipulates us every day? Do you contribute

to their ratings?

[Hekate]

40. I don't support anonymous posters who make broad brush smears with zero attempt to distinguish...

...one station from another, much less one journalist or panelist from another.

It comes across as a pointless exercise by a bored person just seeking to stir up some...excitement.

[DontBooVote]

44. I see thread after sub-thread saying the same thing yet, curiously, I've somehow committed a crime

by making an OP about it.

Whatever.

[DontBooVote]

39. BTW, I'll put my Democratic/Liberal bonefides up against yours any tine you're ready. Bring it.

[Hekate]

42. Oh, please

[DontBooVote]

45. Let's get started.

[Hekate]

48. Whatever for?

[DontBooVote]

53. Because you've made an accusation against me. Why are you now atempting to dismiss it?

[Hekate]

68. Waste of time. I'm taking your advice about not supporting mind-fucks.

Dear Jury: please read the OP calling all cable news a mind-fuck, which I originally called out as a broad-brush smear and which the OP has vigorously defended. I'm done engaging, and merely quoted his term back at him.

[DontBooVote]

72. Oh, so I've been juried for stating a known fact about cable news that is repeated by others here on

a daily basis?

Talk about running off your friends!

[Hekate]

77. Uh, no. That was in case someone took exception to my own post. I'm leaving it to others ...

...to deal with you.

Bye.

[defacto7]

86. It not that you're doing it, it's how you're doing it.

It's unfortunate that we can't just kick ass but there are reasons from past experience that we just don't haul off and not have it backfire. This place has found a niche that balances trolls, attackers and good input. It's not perfect but it's working.

[DontBooVote]

89. And good people are punished for desperately trying to protect fellow Democrats and our KIDS!

[defacto7]

118. Unfortunately there's no crystal ball to know who's who.

So sometimes it happens. I get the impression you're one of the good ones. But I also think some here get the impression your on attack in a personal way. Read the TOS watch the way people are interacting then decide if this place will work for you. I haven't seen any views on your part that are off the mark for the site, but it feels like past bad times and people are reacting to it. Maybe...

[DontBooVote]

120. I feel desperate and hopeless. I feel like our coutry is being taken away from us. I fear for my

kids and grandkids.

I've tried to make this point before on threads that complain about the news media, including today. So I made an OP stating an obvious fact. I have not insulted a single poster that has been cruel in this thread. I had no idea I was going to be treated in such a mean and ferocious way by people that are supposed to be my compatriots.

Now I guess my rep here is ruined.

[defacto7]

124. No not ruined or you'd be off here already.

It would help if you lightened up just a notch or two or three and let people get to know you.

I feel the same about my kids and idiotic direction America and the whole human race has taken. I'm shit angry and pissed but not defeated.

[DontBooVote]

126. Thank you for your calming words of support and caring, defacto7. I hope you're not accused of Ping-

ponging with me, as Chin music was.

I'm done with this. If people want to continue consuming that garbage, I guess there's nothing I can do about it.

[defacto7]

134. I'm not worried about accusations.

Just let it roll off until people get to know you. Don't react when people disagree, just make your point and move on. And use one of these now and then:

[50 Shades Of Blue]

19. Donald Trump, is that you?

[DontBooVote]

25. Nope, life-long Democrat, current PC, and hard-core liberal.

[.99center]

50. Current PC?

[DontBooVote]

57. That's right. I am currently a Democratic Precinct Chair. Problem with that?

[.99center]

69. Calm down.

I was simply asking what PC stood for.

[DontBooVote]

78. No need to calm down. With the same complaint as my OP stated here daily, I am not wrong. So,

I have no reason to calm down because I know I am right, with only scant exception being MSNBC prime time.

[50 Shades Of Blue]

55. Duly noted.

[Raine]

20. Cable news, same thing everyday

all day long ... I'm sick to death of them.

[Hekate]

24. Don't watch all day, then

[Raine]

51. I don't I quit

because I was so sick of them. A half hour of network news brings me up to date and I fill in the time I spent on cable news with other things. It was a way to save my sanity.

[Hekate]

22. The most intelligent tv journalist working today is Rachel Maddow, an MSNBC host. The best guests...

...and panels on tv, with the most ability to express their thoughts without being cut short, show up with Nicolle Wallace and Rachel Maddow.

There are others as well, but I trust you get my point.

Your concern for our intellectual purity and sanctity of our minds is duly noted.

[DontBooVote]

29. Another derisive comment (you were doing well 'til then), duly noted.

[demmiblue]

52. Lol!

[DontBooVote]

56. Do you disagree that cable news manipulates its viewers? Do you deny that, by watching, one

contributes to their success in the propagation of that very manipulation?

Also, this very same sentiment is repeated many times a day (including today). Why now am I being LOL'ed because I post an OP about a known, oft-lamented sentiment that occurs here daily?

Is it my low post count? I suspect it is.

[watoos]

71. I don't inhale,

Ratings are secondary, controlling a far right narrative is primary.

If cable news truly was fair and balanced Trump would be impeached by now.

Nicolle Wallace is better than Rachel but Rachel is good. I know enough not to watch the other robots.

[dewsgirl]

54. I would never, ever miss Rachel.

[DontBooVote]

67. I've said 1/8 of MSNBC is watchable. The rest is crap.

[defacto7]

58. Hey, I absolutely agree. Every station change is a ratings notch.

Surfing? A person's making a lot of rating points.

Now that said... people here don't like to be told how to do things or how to think. It gets to be rough in those waters. Give some alternatives maybe. I refuse cable, facebook and all other social media, but I do DU and read a lot of internet sources with my java script off which stops the usery.

It's good to be proactive and I appreciate your candor. Just be careful and make a difference where you can.

[Kurt V.]

60. now what is this? the initial argument devolves

[kimbutgar]

64. After November 2016 I personally cut back majoron watching cable news

I watch AM Joy on the weekends and maybe 5-10 minutes occasionally. I used to be a sold 3 hour viewer not anymore. I also like to watch Vice news and I need my comedy news shows.

But am cable shows are not watchable. Too much fawning over the orange maggot.

[stonecutter357]

65. Is this whataboutism ?

[TheBlackAdder]

81. What does that say, Anaya?

.

It sure is.

.

[VOX]

70. I have two eyes and a critical mind, which is one eye & a mind more than my TV has...

I also have opposable thumbs, so I control the video feed, not the other way around. I’m wise enough to avoid all the toxic shit, and it exists in tonnage figures.

But Rachel Maddow and Lawrence O’Donnell do not traffic in bullshit. They, and their guests are genuine.

And I mute all the big pharma commercials.

[Demit]

73. How does watching cable news enable the downfall of our entire way of life?

Walk me through that.

[DontBooVote]

76. Nope. I've been informed that I'be been juried for stating a known fact about cable news that

is repeated many times here on a daily basis.

I have been treated like shit and called a right-winger but I'm the one juried.

I'm out of this one before DUers put the knife in my back for good.

[Squinch]

74. You think we need LESS press? Where have I heard that before?

[dewsgirl]

75. +1000

[DontBooVote]

85. What exactly are you insinuating?

[DontBooVote]

83. Here we go again, yet another baseless accusation of being tRump/right-wing. I. GIVE. UP!

[cwydro]

90. Familiar, no?

Interesting.

[DontBooVote]

92. What is familiar about it? And what's "interesting"? What are you insinuating here?

[cwydro]

95. I was responding to another poster.

Not you.

Carry on.

[DontBooVote]

97. And now I'm addressing you. So, please, answer my question: What are you insinuating?

[cwydro]

102. Nah, getting ready to tune in Anderson Cooper...

Later.

[DontBooVote]

103. The poster's decision to ignore my question is "duly noted", as well as "interesting".

[Chin music]

87. Clearly the poster is upset today. Seems he feels the news is whats pushing it.

We can all have opinions. We're all human here (I hope). Instead of fighting w boo...why not a little more solace? Lord only knows when our day of tightness will come, and, we'll all want to be loved here. Fighting w each other isnt the answer, and snappy answers to silly questions went out w Mad magazine in the 70s. Deep breath.
Desperation without an outlet leads to less Democrats, for a variety of reasons. Netflix and Amazon Prime is good for a break.
JUST mho.

[DontBooVote]

88. I AM TERRIFIED FOR MY KIDS/GRANDS! You're damn right I'm upset. I'm doing my part by not

supporting cable news.

Am I wrong? Do they not manipulate and obfuscate and trick us and build a dangerous future for my kids? YOur kids??

[Chin music]

91. They sure do Boo.

We're on the same page i think. It's all so mind numbing. Yes we owe an obligation to the next generation to not just shut the door on America and turn the porch light off. Remember...REPUBLICANS read this page as lurkers. No chinks in the armor. We got your emphasis I think. It's going to be alright.
Nobodys going to sink tonight. Loud music helps.

[DontBooVote]

96. I cry every fucking day from fear. I can't take it that good people (here on DU) continue to support

the propaganda and the manipulation and it breaks my heart to be accused of being something I am not.

I'm supposed to be among friends and compatriots here for fuck's sake!

[Chin music]

100. We got you. Just watch what you say a little is all....

We got your back today. Despite the comments from some, it's meant to back you down lovingly. Don't see it as an attack. Get some rest. Drop a xanax, or something to sleep. Benedryl or melatonin. Hug those kids tonight and show them a strong person. Tough times dont last, tough fuckers really do though. When youre ready to march to Wash Dc....Maybe i can meet you there. We can shout and scream and have fun w it. Nothings going to happen tonight. YOU,ME,WE, are all safe for tonight.

[DontBooVote]

101. There sure are some mean, cruel people here. Thanks for caring, Chin music. When I do hug the kids I

can't help but break down into tears because I feel so helpless.

I'll try to stay strong and I will go to DC if the call goes out.

[TwilightZone]

104. You told people they were poisoning their own minds...

and are responsible for "the downfall of our way of life"...

and you think *others* are being mean?

Might want to look in the mirror.

[demmiblue]

107. It's an act.

An obvious one, at that.

[DontBooVote]

110. What do you mean? In what way is this "an act"?

[Chin music]

109. The mans upset. He went a little too far on the descriptors, but, we are called on to be

understanding arent we? The news is frustrating. And it's seeping out. Im glad nobody flagged him. Its an exercise in grace.

[TwilightZone]

113. Nah, he picked a fight, then complained about it when people responded in kind.

The intent is clear.

[DontBooVote]

115. What is the intent?

[demmiblue]

116. His ping pong partner is obvious, as well n/t

[DontBooVote]

119. Oh yea, here we go. Just come out with your accusation. Spell it out clearly.

[Sherman A1]

93. While I agree that Cable Noise is

Simply Infotainment to fill airtime between ads for drugs that we never knew we needed, what people choose to watch or not watch is up to them. I don’t waste my time with it, but if some find it to their liking it is their choice.

[OilemFirchen]

94. ...

[Tipperary]

125. Lol! I love that skit! Perfect and spot on.

This thread is funny as hell.

[OilemFirchen]

127. No you don't.

[Tipperary]

132. ...

[DontBooVote]

129. I'm glad my fear for my kids/grands is so funny to you. Thanks a lot.

[Captain Stern]

98. I don't think what you just said is correct. n/t

[nini]

106. I have not had CNN/MSNBC on since election night of 2016

Fox has never been on any TV of mine - ever. I get most news online and watch PBS or BBC if I feel like watching.

That being said.. it's not just cable news that is poisoning minds. Major newspapers, blogs, social media etc all play a part in the BS going on these days. It's everywhere and it's one's responsibility to do their own fact checking anyway. DU is a place to help do that so telling people here to 'check yourself' here really doesn't make sense.


I completely understand your frustrations but I don't think it's as simple as you say.

[DontBooVote]

108. I've been accused of being a right-winger and a dtRump doppleganger, FFS! I though I

was among friends here who understand the frustrations.

I guess I'm not.

[Chin music]

111. You are, We are here. Nobody flagged you bc your still posting. Try to lighten up my friend. Turn of

f the DU for tonight. See you tomorrow Boo?

[DontBooVote]

112. You are the only one defending me against heartless posters. But my shit is just an act, don't

you see?!

Thanks you, Chin music.

[Chin music]

114. No problem. You had me there.

See you tomorrow.

[nini]

117. I would assume it's more the way you said this

I think we all agree major media outlets suck.

[DontBooVote]

121. The downright cruelty and suspicion and accusations and lack of understanding though is

heartbreaking to me. I've never been treated this way IRL. I fight my ass off (and did for 2018) for Democrats and for our electoral victories.

I can't believe this shit. And now my rep is ruined.

SMH. Wow.

[Tipperary]

130. Dude, you started a thread lecturing everyone about what they should or should not watch.

You said, “check yourself” to posters you do not even know. And now YOU are the victim? Lol. Perhaps work on how you phrase your ops in the future?

[DontBooVote]

133. I didn't lecture anyone. I stated a hard fact. "Check youself" is a colloquilism I admin may have

been a bit harsh-sounding to some. But it can be used and interpreted both ways. All I did was ask DUers to think about it. That's all.

Can some people not look and see that I was upset, perhaps at another post(s) that decried the manipulations cable news engages in on a daily basis. I quit watching them a while ago and I am no worse off for not giving them my ratings vote.

But to accuse me of being a right-winger and a dtRump doppleganger? That is not fair, not even a little bit.

[Tipperary]

135. Well, I did not do that. However, it really is not that unusual, seen it before.

Try not to take it personally. I have seen long-time duers called trolls. I think posters should not call one another trolls...seems easier to just disagree or not engage.

[highplainsdem]

123. I like to get news as quickly as possible, from as many sources as possible, and I trust myself to

spot the biases and propaganda.

But if you're so easily swayed that simply watching cable news will "poison your mind," then you should certainly avoid it. And avoid every other source of information -- books, magazines, newspapers, radio, online sources, and any chance conversation you might overhear about current events (you might want earplugs some days) -- because God forbid you let yourself be brainwashed.

[DontBooVote]

128. I stopped watching long ago. But I see their bullshit here on DU every single day. And I see the

same calls from others here to "turn that shit off".

I'm sick of the lies and the manipulation.

[DontBooVote]

137. Deleting OP 'cause I'm out... Original post herein...

If you watch cable news, you support cable news and if you support cable news, then... [View all]

Last edited Wed Mar 27, 2019, 07:17 PM - Edit history (1) - EDITED to remove "Check yourself."

...you are contributing to the mind-fuck that cable news is in business to perpetrate.

Think about it. Thank about how you contribute to the poisoning of your own mind. Think about how you, as a supporter, enable the downfall of our entire way of life.