It is painfully obvious to everyone here

[Ohiogal]

That this cruel and vengeful shit stain couldn’t care less about people being able to afford healthcare.

“The GOP will be the party of healthcare!” he recently crowed. Give me a goddam break! Haven’t we heard this before? “I have a plan that will cover everyone beautifully for a lot less”?

More like “The Republican Party will be the party that takes AWAY your healthcare and replaces it with ....NOTHING.”

How can anyone support this cruel policy? How can anyone be fooled not once, but TWICE by this disgusting POS?

Isn’t it painfully obvious that the only reason Shit Stain wants to gut Obamacare is because his whole mission here is to wipe out any trace of our beloved 44th President? He just can’t stand the fact that Obama accomplished something that most people like and doesn’t bear his name.

Sorry, this just makes my blood boil!

[Tipperary]

1. I think he is making a major misstep here. Many of his base are enrolled in the ACA.

This may boomerang on him, at least I sure hope so.

[TreasonousBastard]

4. Well, don't forget that famous quote from a wingnut...

"Don't let the government touch my Social Security"

[Tipperary]

8. Lol. Yes.

We are living in curious times.

[2naSalit]

54. Best one I've heard...

"Don't tell me the federal govermint has taken over the Social Security!"

Actually heard that in a live discussion recently.

[Bengus81]

31. If the numbers are right 26 million Trump voters would LOSE pre-existing conditions........

Wonder when that reality will sink in?

[0rganism]

44. Trump voter: 'He's not hurting the people he needs to be hurting'

remember this gem from the January shutdown extravaganza?
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-voter-hes-not-hurting-the-people-he-needs-be-hurting
that article has another special quote from a very special snowflake:
“I just feel so betrayed,” he said. “If we fail because the company is being harmed by the government, that just makes me sick.”

but the crown jewel is definitely this:
“I voted for him, and he’s the one who’s doing this,” she said of Mr. Trump. “I thought he was going to do good things. He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.”

reality, on the off chance that it happens to sink in, sinks to a different place for these folks.

[Miguel M]

34. Yes, they are ACA enrollees, not Obamacare.

This ‘Murican idiocy knows no bounds.

[dalton99a]

2. The sadistic monster is the American Caligula

[FakeNoose]

38. Wow - awesome name

American Caligula - very succinct and appropriate for the orange turd. I wonder how many "youngsters" have even seen that movie by Bob Guccione? Well it was X-rated at one time but now it's sort of tame compared to current porn.

[spanone]

3. republicans have no plan at all. trump has set them up for a huge failure.

[keithbvadu2]

12. Their plan is a-l-m-o-s-t ready

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/16/trump-reportedly-insists-healthcare-replacement-will-have-insurance-for-everybody.html


January 16, 2017 Fox News

President-elect Donald Trump revealed in an interview with The Washington Post that he’s almost finished with a plan to replace ObamaCare and vowed to have “insurance for everybody."

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The president-elect insisted that his plan for replacing the Affordable Healthcare Act is all but finished, and added that care would have “lower numbers, much lower deductibles.” He went as far to say that he’s ready to reveal it alongside Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and House Speaker Paul Ryan.

[spanone]

13. Bwahahahahahaaa

[lastlib]

56. "GOPeeDon'tCare"........

That's their plan 1) Don't get sick. 2) If you do, die quickly, on your own dime.

I've been calling it that since 2009.

[safeinOhio]

5. It has taken 10 years for them to come up

no plan to replace. The only reason they can't give us a plan is because the ACA works.

Every one, including them, know the only thing better would be Medicare for everyone.

[scrutineer]

7. Republicans DO have a healthcare plan

The Republican healthcare plan:

If you ain’t rich, go die in a ditch.

That’s not the whole plan. There’s small print:

But for gods you poors, please pick a ditch that's away, far away, from my beautiful mind. I don’t want to be around you peasants when you’re living and healthy, what makes you think I can tolerate you sick or dead?

[Delmette2.0]

28. OMG, you nailed it !!!!

[FakeNoose]

39. They did have a bill but it was total garbage

Remember the one that was written by the healthcare/medical industry lobbyists? THAT was their bill! McConnell wouldn't let anybody even see it before they voted on it. Once people actually saw the bill (after it was defeated) they realized how bad it was, and it didn't even save the gov't any money.

The amazing thing was that most of the GOP Senators and Congresspeople didn't even want it, they knew it was poison. We need to link THEIR insurance to whatever they give US. If they give us garbage, they should get the same. Right now there's no risk to them because they all have the Golden Parachute - free Obamacare benefits for life.

[progree]

49. Actually we've seen two Republican replacement health care plans -- AHCA and BCRA

trouble was both were awful

The American Health Care Act (AHCA) introduced in the House and voted down

and the Better Care Reconciliation Act (BCRA) introduced in the Senate and voted down.

even though the Republicans were in the majority in both chambers

and I forget how many 10's of millions of people would have lost their health care under each of these bills, according to the CBO estimates.

Exposing the repulsive face of Republican genocide.

[forgotmylogin]

53. Yeah, the "party of healthcare" my ass.

If they pull the rug out from under the ACA and people lose healthcare, then any stupid ass thing they take their sweet time to put forward would seem an improvement.

[lostnfound]

6. I don't think that's the "only reason"

He’s doing the bidding of certain plutocratic ideologues that view all social safety nets including Obamacare as evil and dangerous.

The rightwing billionaires that oppose it
1) don’t want to pay higher taxes,
2) are afraid that the masses will get bright ideas about taking over government “for the people”
3) don’t want the trillions in market cap of health care and health insurance stocks to decline
4) view the federal assumption of such programs as unsustainable and demotivating to the public and
5) Prefer dependent and desperate workers to ensure the supply of cheap and meek labor

[watoos]

14. That's not the only reason,

but I agree with the poster, that is Trump's reason. Trump still hasn't gotten over the beat down that president Obama gave him at the correspondence dinner. I agree with the poster 100% that Trump has been working to undo everything that president Obama did.

It isn't just Trump though. Think back to when Barack Obama was elected. What's the 1st thing that Republican leaders immediately did? The leaders held a meeting and took a vow to oppose "everything" that Obama proposed, even if it was good for the country. At that meeting Republicans took a vow to obstruct, to make everything political. My question to everyone; why did Republicans feel the need to obstruct everything that Obama did? He really wasn't responsible for any momentous legislation, he wasn't known as a liberal ideologue. He didn't really have time to garner a reputation, he was young and new on the job.

Why did Republicans feel the need to have this meeting? Think about it. What was different about president Obama? Did Republicans fear what president would do, or did they fear who he was? Think about it.

[SWBTATTReg]

25. These attempts to dismantle the ACA will simply backfire on the repugs and rump...haven't they ...

learned the lesson from the 2018 Nov. elections? I think not. I think what the repugs and rump are doing are signs of them getting desperate (why are they still playacting in front of their so called, supposedly solid base of voters)? The voters do see what's going on, and have seen their blatant attempts to cover up the Mueller report.

A massive number of independents (and some repugs too) are asking why the cover up? Why not provide the Mueller report in full if the report concludes that rump is innocent as they so call say? Obviously not. George Conway is right, in that there is something in this report (or multiple things) that were found and would damage the repug and rump brands. Otherwise, why the cover up?

Get Mueller in to testify in front of a house subcommittee. I expect that eventually a version (if you can call the severely edited / changed original Mueller report that still) of the report will make it out into the public eye/Congress' eye. But it will be worthless, especially when you let the crook look at it first via his attorneys. If I were the House of Rep (a democrat of course), I would definitely state out publicly to any attorneys or entity who alters or participates in any modifications to the Mueller report, that they shall be charged with a crime of contempt of Congress (the House of Rep), immediately.

[watoos]

30. Yes, get Mueller to testify, in public.

Just imagine the difference between listening to someone like Bob Mueller speak and then follow that up with a Rudy Ghouliani rebuttal. Republicans know they will be toast if Mueller gets to testify, they will fight it to the SC.

Better yet, picture Mueller going on Nicolle Wallace or Rachel Maddow, the ratings would beat the super bowl.

[mathematic]

37. Trump doesn't care about anyone's wealth but his own

Trump doesn't care about anything but his own aggrandizement and he would gladly beggar all those plutocrats you think are running the show if he thought he could.

Trump wants to be king of the ashes.

[gtar100]

9. What a great time to bring this shit up again, just after the Mueller report was turned in.

They use our healthcare as a political football. Perfect time to attack on another front, eh.

[myohmy2]

10. here, here...

...republicans are an unmitigated evil...

...why are these people even in this country yet alone governing us?

...they're sucking the life out of us...

[Grins]

11. "How can anyone support this cruel policy?"

Hey! They're Republicans! It's part of their DNA. Those tax cuts aren't going to pay for themselves.

[Leith]

18. rethugs keep saying that tax cuts DO "pay for themselves"

because they kick off wondrous economic growth where everyone benefits, jobs are plentiful, pixie dust for desert every meal, and a unicorn in every garage.

Of course, we have yet to see the slightest evidence of it, but that doesn't keep them from repeating that same ol' lie.

[watoos]

23. 3 Republican presidents did the same thing,

Harding, Coolidge and Hoover. We had the roaring 20's. Back then tax breaks for the rich was called "The Horse and Sparrow," plan. If you feed the horse more oats the sparrows will get more seed from his shit.

Nothing has changed. Today we call it trickle down, voodoo economics.

[ooky]

40. And yet, we see the evidence in plain sight every day in the form of the rising budget deficits

under their tax cuts, which is totally ignored, until a democrat takes office - then the deficits and the debt is falsely blamed on the dem.

[McKim]

58. Time to Push the Messages

It is time for we Dems to start framing and naming to win the election. The idea that the Republicans are cruel, that their budget is cruel needs to be repeated constantly throughout the campaign. Sad thing is that Americans think being poor and without health care and without the normal benefits that everyone in Western Europe is somehow their own fault. This frame needs to be challenged. Government is there to serve US!!!!!

[yaesu]

15. The religious fanatics will always support him no matter what because they believe the rapture

is coming & nothing matters because everyone & everything is going to be wiped out. They don't care about health care, the environment, nothing. These nut jobs are as big a problem as the uber rich.

[KPN]

16. It seems like Alan Grayson was right. The GOP plan IS "Just Die". It's getting hard any longer to

believe that IS NOT what they want. It's the GOPs (read Kochs') final solution for "over-population", i.e., too many dumb, lazy people to keep alive and still have our massive fortune.

At least it sure seems that way. And the real dumb, lazy people keep voting for them!

[mac56]

17. Yup

[Leith]

19. How long will it take before chumpy says

"Healthcare is complicated! Who knew how complicated it was?"

If he gets started today, my prediction is that he will say it around the end of May.

But, my other prediction is that he won't get started on it (or, rather, talk about it publicly) until early next year when election season heats up.

[csziggy]

20. Remember - he took healthcare away from his nephew's family

After they tried to fight against the will Trump wrote for his father that left them out.

The Trump Files: When Donald Took Revenge by Cutting Off Health Coverage for a Sick Infant
Classy.
Natalie Schreyer
August 25, 2016 10:00 AM

The story begins after the death of Trump’s father, Fred Sr., in 1999. As David Cay Johnston explains in his book The Making of Donald Trump, Fred Sr. had written a will after the death of his oldest son, Fred Jr., known as Freddy, in 1981. The will left the majority of Fred Sr.’s wealth to Donald and his surviving siblings. Freddy’s family was largely cut out.

When Fred Sr. died, Freddy’s children sued, claiming that the will “had been ‘procured by fraud and undue influence’ by Donald and the other surviving siblings,” according to Johnston.

Johnston writes that medical insurance had consistently been provided to the family through Fred Sr.’s company. This coverage was crucial for Freddy’s grandson (Donald’s grandnephew), who suffered from seizures and later developed cerebral palsy. So crucial, in fact, that a letter sent from a Trump lawyer to the insurer after the patriarch’s death in 1999 said that “all costs” for the sick child’s care should be covered, regardless of caps on the plan or medical necessity, according to Johnston. That didn’t last long.

A week after the lawsuit was filed in court, Freddy’s son (Donald’s nephew) received a letter informing him that the health insurance would be discontinued, meaning his ill son would be left without coverage. Donald openly admitted to the New York Daily News that he and his siblings took this action out of revenge.

More: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/trump-files-donald-sick-infant-medical-care/

Why should he worry about taking healthcare away from people he doesn't even know - even if they voted for him?

[Taraman]

21. Heartless Republicans

We got tagged with "bleeding heart liberals", and never got rid of it. It's only fair we tag them as "heartless Republicans" (which they are).

[LibDemAlways]

22. Makes perfect sense from a Repuke ideological perspective.

Doing away with the ACA forces healthy people who can afford it to pay higher premiums and co-pays, thus enriching the coffers of insurance industry CEOs. Repukes don't give a shit about those who can't afford to pay or those with pre-existing conditions who'll never qualify. They can suffer and die as far as Trump and his cohorts are concerned. The Repuke mantra on the campaign trail will be "The Democrats want evil socialized medicine," and the dumbasses will fall for it. If the ACA did go away, those same dumbasses would just keep waiting for the better healthcare the Repukes promised. It would obviously be a very long wait.

[maddiemom]

24. The Affordable Care Act "bears Obama's name"

because the Republican's dubbed it that, thinking it would be an insult when they caused it to fail. It was the same with "Hillarycare."

[area51]

27. +1

"Obamacare" isn't even the name of the program; he and Faux propaganda channel can just rebrand it as "Trumpcare".

[ancianita]

26. It's obvious that the GOP IS THE DPP -- DEATH PANEL PARTY.

[FM123]

29. The GOP is all about gun care & health control instead of the other way around!

[Different Drummer]

45. Well said!

[Lonestarblue]

32. I wonder if Trump's core supporters even know about this plan.

I can’t stomach Fox News so if they have not reported that Trump wants to take away their healthcare, how would they know about it? They don’t get news elsewhere, and I suspect many of them do not bother reading a print or online newspaper. When you live in a bubble, all you know is what’s on the inside of that bubble.

[guillaumeb]

33. It is not just Trump.

It is the GOP in general.

What affects them personally is what matters.

And a large part of the GOP is still outraged that a black man was President.

[Skidmore]

35. Not just him.

Don't forget his Cabinet of billionaires and multi millionaires who think govt service is the same as being on a corporate board or serving as a trustee. Then there are all of their fixers in Congress.

[Delmette2.0]

36. Who do they think will take care of them?

When they are in their expensive gated community or VIP hospital room who will wipe the drool from their face, the shit from their butt? Do they really think that their pampered children and grandchildren will take turns? Have they ever stood by while someone dies slowly from a prolonged illness? It will not be their doctor but a doctor on call who doesn't know the patient, perhaps a couple of family members, the brunt of the unpleasant work will be done by someone who will not be granted the same care and consideration.

Rant over. Thank you for reading and understanding.

[samplegirl]

41. Yes mine too!

Ohio being the most gerrymandered state makes me lose
more faith in democracy each day. In our town the food banks were wall to wall on Monday.
Lost jobs, and no healthcare for many again.

[Ohiogal]

42. Right on, samplegirl.

I sure would like to know where this “booming economy “ is that the rethugs keep crowing about. Must be on another planet ...

Chicken shit coward doesn’t dare come to Lordstown, I’ve noticed.

[ginnyinWI]

43. This is a gift to the Democratic party.

Thanks, you idiot! Nobody is going to be better than the Dems on healthcare.

[Dr. T]

46. Repuglican plan: euthanasia for the poor and middle class

followed by Soylent Green as a food source for all children in public schools.

[keithbvadu2]

47. Would Reagan classify it as a vegetable?

Would Reagan classify it as a vegetable?

[jimlup]

48. yes but it is far worse

Shit stain has no fucking clue what he is doing. He is a yahoo who serves only the momentary political gain from his drooling right wing terrorists.

[Initech]

50. This isn't so much as mandating healthcare as it is giving Obama the finger.

Which Trump should just do and get it over with, and that would be so much easier than trying to take away health care.

[sheshe2]

51. Beautifully covered.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211963444

[Gothmog]

52. I totally agree with the OP

Great post

[rabid_decline]

55. It seems to me

That he’s gonna do the same he’s had a tendency to do: decry what he calls “bad” like he did with NAFTA, threaten to dismantle and disrupt, pick apart things here and there, then leave it in place and re-name it so he can claim victory for optics. I’m not saying this as someone who would defend NAFTA, or as a full out proponent of that policy. But I’m seeing his tendencies to do this with many policies foreign and domestic. It’s his form of disruption, gaslighting, and more smoke and mirrors. I believe he’ll do the same with the ACA; threaten to dismantle, (“we’ll see what happens”) leave most of it in place, and then rename it and claim victory.

[Vinca]

57. In all their years of railing against the ACA, they haven't produced one viable solution. Not one.

In any case, the problem isn't the ACA, it's that it's known as "Obamacare." If someone suggested to Dear Leader that he adopt Romney's Massachusetts plan and call it "Trumpcare," he'd be all over it.

[keithbvadu2]

61. The naming is important

[The Wizard]

59. He really means

sick care. To Repubics, comprehensive health care is a communist plot. At least that's what Pox News and hate radio says.

[Oneironaut]

60. And also that there's not going to be an ACA replacement.

They’ll have a token vote, not pass it, and then try to claim it’s the Democrats’ fault there was no replacement.

They don’t care if people die. They’ve got theirs.

[BlueFlorida]

62. It is not just him

some supposedly on our side are also willing to throw the ACA under the bus for ideology and ego.

[ck4829]

63. K&R

[malaise]

64. Great post

but the reason they hate any and everything connected to Obama is racism.