Woman arrested for assaulting man wearing MAGA hat on Cape Cod

[pintobean]

FALMOUTH, Mass. - A woman on Cape Cod is facing charges for assaulting a man wearing a "Make America Great Again" hat.

Rosiane Santos, 41, of Falmouth was charged with disorderly conduct and assault and battery.

Santos told police she was upset the man was wearing the hat in a Mexican restaurant.

The man wearing the hat, 23-year-old Bryton Turner of Mashpee, was so annoyed with the woman's antics that he pulled out his phone and started recording her.

The incident occurred last Friday at the "Casa Vallarta" Mexican restaurant in Falmouth.

Turner says he was minding his own business, when Santos started yelling at him because of his hat, which bears the theme that President Donald Trump campaigned on.

More, plus video: https://www.boston25news.com/news/woman-arrested-for-assaulting-man-wearing-maga-hat-on-cape-cod/923965262

[mr_lebowski]

1. Yeah, maybe not the smartest move, but that assault charge is going nowhere.

AFAIC, the more unwelcome people feel, wearing that stupid hat public ... the better.

Just gotta play it cool ...

I prefer the walking by and pretending to cough 'you're a dick!' approach ... then again I'm 6'5" 230lb, so I can kinda get away with a lotta shit most of the time, lol ...

[pintobean]

2. The only way it goes nowhere

is if the young man doesn't follow through.

[mr_lebowski]

4. Have to consider likelihood that a jury is going to convict a young immigrant woman for

"disorderly conduct and assault and battery" ... just because she snatched the MAGA hat off of a white male, sitting at a bar, and walked away?

With no blows, no threats of violence, just taken the hat and walking away?

Do you honestly think a prosecutor is going to pursue those charges, even if Maga-Boy wants to?

My bet, on all the above is NO. MAAAAAYBE disorderly conduct, with a tiny slap on the wrist, but assault and battery ... is going nowhere, is my guess.

But I suppose we'll see ... and we'll also see how much the guy wants to 'be famous'.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

8. incitement to violence

MAGA hat is now an emblem of discrimination against non-whites, up to and including acts of violence by the wearers. Seems to me the MAGAt was trying to incite violence in order to claim victimhood.

[smirkymonkey]

12. Exactly. He knew what he was doing wearing a MAGA hat in a Mexican Restaurant in

eastern MA. He was looking for a confrontation. Next time he tries it, he might not run up against someone who just takes his hat off. Pretty bold and stupid move.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

29. Nonsense.

Woman arrested for assaulting man wearing MAGA hat on Cape Cod
Updated: Feb 25, 2019 - 4:16 AM

[tritsofme]

31. Good thing the First Amendment protects us from folks like you!

I think Trump’s Department of Justice might have a different idea over which political slogans might constitute “incitement to violence”

[Hermit-The-Prog]

32. things are always ridiculous until they are not

See, e.g., the Lorena Bobbitt verdict.

The First Amendment, just like the 2nd, is not absolute.

[tritsofme]

36. What the heck are you even talking about?

No, you can’t ban political slogans you don’t like, even if you really don’t like them.

From what I hear, our local community colleges offer some great introductory civics courses for adults, might be something to check out.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

41. people can incite others to violence

A judge rules Trump may have incited violence … and Trump again has his own mouth to blame


Freedom of speech is not absolute. MAGA hats and their wearers are notorious. Sooner or later, a defense lawyer somewhere is going to argue that an emotional, somewhat violent reaction to such a hat is not assault because of that notoriety.

[tritsofme]

45. And sooner or later that person is going to be laughed out of court.

The case you cite was dismissed, and Trump’s speech ruled to be protected under the First Amendment.

http://www.opn.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions.pdf/18a0202p-06.pdf

Freedom of speech is not absolute, but the threshold for incitement is quite high. It is not a loophole for authoritarians such as yourself to ban speech you don’t like.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

46. the ad hominem attacks end this discussion

[tritsofme]

47. How else to describe someone looking to ban speech they dislike but an authoritarian?

If you don’t want to be labeled an authoritarian, stop advocating authoritarian positions.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

50. nowhere did I propose banning speech

Incitement is an alternative defense.

You seem unwilling or unable to discuss that without name-calling, which does not interest me at all.

Have a good night.

[onenote]

51. wearing a hat isn't incitement.

Not even close. Seriously. Give it up.

[X_Digger]

39. Yeah, no. Legally that's a shit argument.

I can wear the most offensive, fuck you hat in existence, that doesn't legally justify assault.

[aikoaiko]

53. No, not in a legal sense. No where close to "fighting words"

[Eliot Rosewater]

35. Filthy fucking MAGA are attacking decent people every fucking day, wish we had all those reports

here

[The Truth Is Here]

3. Case dismissed.

Charges are needed to be brought to the moron wearing the MAGA hat. assault to humanity.

[mahina]

5. I'd have to whack him with my NPR tote bag.

Dont remember whose line that was.

[jcgoldie]

20. hehe

I think that may be from an old PHC skit.

[walkingman]

6. If you took a tennis racket and just bonk someone on the head with a MAGA hat would that be assault?

Just kidding, just kidding, but after seeing the Catholic boy in that Native American's face, I'm prejudice.

[elias7]

17. That Native American walked up to that Catholic boy and got in his face

Not popular opinion here, but I have watched the longer video from multiple angles and that’s what happened. Just sayin’

That’s the danger of prejudice. Sometimes we only see what we want to see.

[walkingman]

18. Agreed - what I saw (maybe prejudice) was a smart ass kid with a MAGA hat.

[elias7]

19. I saw a kid with a MAGA hat, all his classmates too.

The smart ass characterization comes in because it appeared from the initial clip that he walked up into the face of Phillips and scornfully grinned in a condescending manner. But that is not how it went down. His was a nervous smile, uncertain of what to do, trying to project some good will.

Is Diane Feinstein more deserving of reconsideration of an edited or truncated video than this kid?
I just don’t think it works both ways. I would like it if people could watch the whole video and tell where they see him being a smart ass. I don’t like privileged white kids wearing MAGA hato any more than you do, but we still have to treat every situation fairly.

[walkingman]

22. OK, I watched the entire video before and after the incident

The Black Israelites looked to be the primary instigators during the entire gathering. However, the Covington students were definitely mocking the Native Americans and the kid in no way was trying to project good will.

If the school administration was involved (not sure if they were) then I blame them for allowing the mob mentality that transpired. Not any way I would want my child to act and would hold the school responsible for allowing it. Not the action of adult leadership much less school leadership. I agree it is not a "Black or White" issue but IMO the fault lies with the nasty comments of the Black Israelites and the Catholic School kids - both were wrong and unacceptable behavior.

If there were no adults there then I say it was just dumbass kids acting like dumbass kids. But they certainly do not need any type of encouragement for such behavior. The MAGA hats, Trump sweatshirts were clearly an attempt to cause divisiveness and again not something that I would think a school would tolerate.

[elias7]

23. I don't disagree that the kids were mocking the NA's

But this kid wasn’t. He wasn’t even paying much attention until Nathan Phillips walked up to him. And when his classmate was arguing with an NA about whose country it was, he did call over and (according to his report) was trying to tell him not to engage in a negative way.

I’m just saying that I feel that kid got unfairly characterized in a viral fashion, then mocked for trying to defend himself. I don’t appreciate his parent’s politics or choices, but I endeavor to be fair. If you saw something different, I respect that...

[Baltimike]

7. we should pay her bail, LOLOLOL nt

[Ilsa]

9. Physically attacking those idiots doesn't help Democrats, IMO. nt

[lunatica]

10. No it doesn't

but it makes this Democrat feel better. She took his disgusting cap. Maybe he’ll think twice before going into Mexican restaurant trying to intimidate everyone. Hopefully he’ll never go into a Mexican restaurant ever again.

[DFW]

16. Be prepared for the opposite

Anyone wearing one of those hats in a Mexican restaurant in eastern Massachusetts is BEGGING for a confrontation.

If you REALLY want to ruin his day, ignore him completely.

[pintobean]

11. No, it doesn't.

Neither does applauding it and making excuses. It's election season. Democrats will be exercising their free speech by openly supporting their candidate of choice. Do we want it to be open season on them, too?

[Tipperary]

14. Thank you.

Amazed at those applauding this. If the hat were on the other head, so to speak, we would be outraged.

[ADX]

26. Exactly...

...If some MAGA-cretin walked up to someone wearing an "Onward Together" hat and snatched it off their head, people would be screaming for an arrest to be made and charges pressed.

We can't have it both ways...

[SharonClark]

15. Bingo

[Raine]

13. Agree

I cringe when I hear of these attacks, makes the anti-Trump side look like violent out of control loons.

[TheBlackAdder]

21. Everyone should look at him, say something undistinguishable, a quick look back and start laughing.

.

If just several of the tables did this, he's feel so awkward.

.

[Blue Owl]

27. Way more powerful than physical assault

In the spirit of "the pen is mightier than the sword"!

[RhodeIslandOne]

24. They are trolling, don't fall for it

Ignore them, shun them. They want to hit the lottery with an assault.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

28. If I don't post this from time to time, people will think assault is acceptable.

It isn't.

Yes, I understand that the government was not involved here, other than to respond to the bar with LE and arrest the alleged assailant for assault.

But if it's okay to assault someone because you are upset by hat he is wearing, then you can expect the same treatment in return.



Source: https://blog.library.gsu.edu/2012/03/23/secularists-descend-upon-d-c-for-reason-rally/

[pintobean]

30. ***UPDATE*** Santos is presently in ICE custody

Santos was arrested Tuesday near Falmouth by deportation officers with ICE’s Fugitive Operations Team, he said.

“She is presently in ICE custody and has been entered into removal proceedings before the federal immigration courts,” Mohan said in the statement.

When reached by phone Tuesday afternoon, Santos directed questions to her immigration attorney, Katarina Kozakova.

https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2019/02/26/rosiane-santos-maga-hat-assault-arrested-ice

[jcmaine72]

33. Violence is not the answer to MAGA

Voting is.

Vote the straight Democratic ticket in 2020 and help make America sane again.

That'll hurt the MAGA cretins far more than a sock to the chops ever will.

[Kingofalldems]

37. Looks like it's all over. Woman arrested.

Now we a have a GOP congressman threatening a witness. Much more serious than this episode.

[pintobean]

40. I have no idea what you're talking about.

What man was arrested?

[Kingofalldems]

43. Refresh. Now do you?

[Dr. Strange]

58. Ha! I saw the original and got confused too.

They arrested the man? WTF!?

[Captain Stern]

38. I don't see a controversy here. She should have been arrested, and she was. n/t

[Kingofalldems]

42. Exactly.

When compared to the MAGA nazi about to assassinate Democrats it's small potatoes.

[ProudLib72]

44. So now she is being deported

And the deplorables are slapping themselves on the back for owning the libruls.

Look, wearing anything MAGA is meant as provocation. What should you do when a shitstain tries to provoke you? Don't fall for it, that's what you do!

[BlueStater]

48. "Bryton Turner"

A douchebag hat for a douchebag with a douchebag name.

[VOX]

49. While the anger is righteous, DO NOT FEED MAGAts a full-course meal like that.

Save it for the polls, and for online allies. Otherwise, you feed their horseshit line about “liberal rage,” etc.

[kimbutgar]

52. Maybe the restaurant workers gave some special sauce to this maga hat wearer?

All I would have done is give a constant dirty look and make the guy uncomfortable. The times I have seen maga hat wearers I stare then down and give them major dirty looks. I made a maga once get up and leave. Another time one asked me what I was looking at and I said "not much".

[pintobean]

54. A restaurant worker called the cops

and reported the assault.

[kimbutgar]

55. I guess he one of those Hispanics who will vote for the orange maggot in 2020.

The maggot said he is going to win over Hispanics in 2020!

[pintobean]

57. Or, maybe he just knows right from wrong

[Beartracks]

56. My first thought: How much did he pay her?

Just an idle thought...



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