Senate investigation: No direct evidence of conspiracy. They remind me of the OJ trial.

[shockey80]

I watched the OJ trial. There was blood in the car, in the house, a glove behind the house that matched the one at the murder scene. OJ had a cut on his finger. OJ ran because that's what innocent people do. OJ was guilty as hell and so is Trump. You don't need a murder weapon. you don't need a video or recording to prove someone is guilty. When you have a pile of circumstantial evidence that's enough.

The Senate has decided there is no direct evidence because they couldn't find a video or recording of Trump talking to the Russians about a conspiracy. Give me a fucking break.

If the Mueller investigation turns out like the OJ trial I will lose my mind.

I guess watching a conspiracy with our own eyes is not direct evidence.

[spanone]

1. Nunes revisited.

bullshit.

[guillaumeb]

2. Even if Trump were to be caught on tape admitting to asking for Russian help,

and even if a money trail from Putin to Trump could be proven, the GOP controlled Senate would find no evidence.

[TCJ70]

6. I mean...he did...on camera...at a press conference...

"Russia if you're listening"

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[guillaumeb]

15. Agreed, he hinted very strongly.

But the GOP controlled Senate, and the GOP as a Party, is not interested in acting with any integrity.

[pangaia]

3. NOT THE SENATE...... REPUBLICANS..... in the senate..

thank you..

[shockey80]

5. That's not what is being reported. Both democrats and Republicans say no direct evidence found.

[uponit7771]

4. There was a white supremacist who admitted to framing blacks for crimes leading OJ investigation ...

... at one time.

That's a fact not in dispute

Please don't compare Furhman or anyone else leading the OJ investigation with Mueller

I'm not putting all my eggs in the Mueller basket seeing there has been enough time to cover things up, kill witness's like Putin has done, pay off other witness's like Trump has done with inauguration money and for McConnell to hide anything and everything with no consequences.

The Democrats in the house have a responsibility to impeach Trump right now for emoluments violations ... a multitude of them.

Even if he doesn't get removed they still do their jobs

[shockey80]

7. No one framed OJ.

[uponit7771]

8. Irrelevant, the person leading the investigation was a known white supremacist who admitted

... to doing such on tape where a half black jury heard it.

The fact that he admitted he frames black folks should've been the tale tell to the prosecution that he wasn't the best witness for them and could sink their case, they decided not to front Furhman anyway.

I don't know too many people who liked OJ then, but I know plenty of people who like the LAPD et al even less.

Mueller is nothing like the LAPD or the LA County racist ass's.

To your point I'd be disappointed in Muellers investigation if they stayed away from finances or any of the other publicly known stuff that seems outright wrong.

[Solomon]

18. You apparently didn't watch all of the trial. Det. Van Etter or whatever his name is took a vital

of OJs. blood, didn't take it to the lab but carried it around God knows where and when it was later measured, some of the blood was missing from the vial.

Classic frame-up. Cops are not adverse to framing a guilty person. Best not to let a jury catch you trying to do that.

[blogslut]

9. Are you talking about what Burr said in an interview last week?

Not an official finding. The Senate investigation is not over.

Here is the Burr quote:

For now, Burr appears to have arrived at his answer. "If we write a report based upon the facts that we have, then we don't have anything that would suggest there was collusion by the Trump campaign and Russia," he said.

Here is the interview:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/richard-burr-on-senate-intelligence-committees-russia-investigation-2-years-on/

[Nevilledog]

13. Has Burr even been briefed on the investigating by Mueller?

[blogslut]

14. I don't know

All I know is the Senate investigation is not over, no matter what the president says.

[Nevilledog]

17. Here's the way I see it.

Burr is basing his "opinion" on the crap he's heard in the Senate. Once he hears what Mueller has to say I'm guessing this "no collusion" shit stops immediately.

[manor321]

10. This is just more bullshit from NBC's Ken Delanian

People not to listen to regarding the Russia investigation:

NBC's Ken Delanian
NBC's Pete Williams
Yahoo's Michael Isikoff

[Miigwech]

11. So hard to nail white collar criminals

What? They need to know the person's intention. Just like Reagun, when he said he didn't know at the time, said he should have known, meanwhile, his whole National Security officials carried out Iran-gate / Iran Contra. Reagun was caught red handed and yet never held to justice. Be a black kid and get shot dead in the middle of the street for possibly stealing a pack of smokes.

https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2014/feb/27/irangate-ronald-reagan-us-politics

[Hortensis]

12. We need the results to be the truth, no matter what it is.

If evidence does not establish conspiracy by Trump himself, that'll just be the way it is. We'll have to console ourselves with evidence establishing lesser criminal actions instead.

We have to accept also that the burden of proof to support criminal prosecution would be very high. The fact that no president has ever been indicated and prosecuted means that, politically speaking, to move forward with criminal charges would require an extremely compelling case, one that established its own necessity beyond doubt.

We also have to accept that the Republican-controlled senate may refuse to act against Trump even if evidence did strongly indicate treasonous activities.

In all foreseeable ends, our job will be to root all traitors out of government, destroying what the Republican Party has become and tightening and reforming the laws and procedures they used to illicitly gain power and institutionalize their corruption to make sure it can't re-form. And no matter what happens in the courts and senate, We the People can accomplish our determining role in all that as of November 2, 2020.

[UniteFightBack]

16. There is a BIG difference between: "there is no direct evidence" and "there is no evidence" nt

[wishstar]

19. Burr and Senate have no basis for conclusion since Cohen lied to them and Stone never even testified

Just like the House's Nunes- chaired committee had no basis for their conclusion that was based on lies and evasions and refusals to answer by the Trumpers and failure of Nunes' committee to issue sufficient subpoenas.