Zimmerman's depraved mind

[pokerfan]

New evidence in the Zimmerman case...

(bolding mine)

This additional evidence eliminates all doubt that Zimmerman might not have acted with a depraved mind. Zimmerman told the police that he did not know if the shot he fired hit Martin and he subsequently claimed he did not know Martin had died until later that evening at the police station.

Nevertheless, he sat on Martin’s back after the shooting and one witness said he appeared to have his hands on Martin’s neck. Sitting on Martin’s back would have restricted Martin’s airway and when W13 arrived, he specifically told him not to call 911.

When he did that he necessarily knew that a police officer was en route to the neighborhood to investigate a non-emergency situation with no specific address to go to in the neighborhood to conduct that investigation. He also necessarily knew that no ambulance was on the way to render medical assistance.

Yet he not only told the witness not to call 911, he told someone else to call his wife and tell her that he shot someone. He also told several witnesses he had already called 911 when, in fact, he knew that was false. Then he waited for the police.

http://frederickleatherman.wordpress.com/2012/08/21/zimmerman-did-he-act-with-a-depraved-mind-after-he-shot-trayvon-martin/

[freshwest]

1. Oh, man, oh man. Sickening reading.

[lightcameron]

2. He had already called 911 and police got there within two minutes of him ending the call.

Zimmerman ended the call to 911 at 7:15. The first police officer to arrive was Timothy Smith, who got there at approximately 7:17 PM.

So when Frederick Leatherman writes that Zimmerman "intentionally attempted to delay its [911] arrival for as long as possible and I believe there is only one reason why he did that. He did not want Trayvon Martin to survive" he's not being forthright with his readers.

Nevertheless, this will all shake out in court and we'll get the best version we're ever going to get.

[Fumesucker]

5. Welcome to DU!

I hope you enjoy your stay!

[lightcameron]

6. Thanks!

I'll probably be alerted for posting facts, but I gather that's the MO.

[HangOnKids]

35. Where did you gather that MO Information cam?

People do not get alerted for posting facts, they get alerted for peddling BS, being trolls, and personal attacks. So where did you get the MO info about DU?

[malaise]

47. Ditto

[HangOnKids]

40. In Earl G's HateMail Thread

At least three of the hate letters claimed they were banned from DU for posting facts! Of course they stated that in their obscure, ignorant freeper fashion. Interesting that Cam already feels a bit of persecution.

[Blue_Tires]

41. I'm betting cam knows the drill by now

and already has a fresh account on standby

[Blue_Tires]

39. Forget him -- He repeats like a broken record

And I've lost count, but this is probably the 20th account he's been on (or the people he represents)

[malaise]

48. Damn I love live ones

[Blue_Tires]

76. If you really want a laugh, he decided to PM me for some reason

10:00 PM
lightcameron
Hi there!

I just saw that you posted an accusation that I've had 20 accounts. Rather than embarrass you in public, I thought I'd ask in a PM if you'd care to back that up. Hell, forget 20; just prove I've had 2!

And, by the way, I hope you're not as angry and frustrated as you seemed earlier.

Cheers, mate!


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10:19 PM
lightcameron
On second thought....

I looked at more of your post history. Now I see your agenda. No sense in a "discussion" with someone so biased.

The thread is yours from this point forward.

Hope you find peace....

[malaise]

79. LOL

[pokerfan]

8. Nope

Never called 911

[lightcameron]

9. Here's the call.

listen here:

Transcript:

Dispatcher: Sanford Police Department. ...
Zimmerman: Hey, we've had some break-ins in my neighborhood, and there's a real suspicious guy, uh, [near] Retreat View Circle. Um, the best address I can give you is 111 Retreat View Circle. This guy looks like he's up to no good, or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about.
Dispatcher: Okay, and this guy is he white, black, or Hispanic?
Zimmerman: He looks black.
Dispatcher: Did you see what he was wearing?
Zimmerman: Yeah. A dark hoodie, like a grey hoodie, and either jeans or sweatpants and white tennis shoes. He's [unintelligible], he was just staring...
Dispatcher: Okay, he's just walking around the area...
Zimmerman: ...looking at all the houses.
Dispatcher: Okay...
Zimmerman: Now he's just staring at me.
Dispatcher: Okay. You said it's 1111 Retreat View? Or 111?
Zimmerman: That's the clubhouse... [Note 3, 3rd picture]
Dispatcher: That's the clubhouse. Do you know what the—he's near the clubhouse right now?
Zimmerman: Yeah, now he's coming towards me.
Dispatcher: Okay.
Zimmerman: He's got his hand in his waistband. And he's a black male.
Dispatcher: How old would you say he looks?
Zimmerman: He's got a button on his shirt. Late teens.
Dispatcher: Late teens. Okay.
Zimmerman: Something's wrong with him. Yup, he's coming to check me out. He's got something in his hands. I don't know what his deal is.
Dispatcher: Just let me know if he does anything, okay?
Zimmerman: How long until you get an officer over here?
Dispatcher: Yeah, we've got someone on the way. Just let me know if this guy does anything else.
Zimmerman: Okay. These assholes, they always get away. When you come to the clubhouse, you come straight in and make a left. Actually, you would go past the clubhouse.[Note 3, 3rd picture]
Dispatcher: So it's on the lefthand side from the clubhouse?
Zimmerman: No, you go in straight through the entrance and then you make a left...uh, you go straight in, don't turn, and make a left. Shit, he's running.
Dispatcher: He's running? Which way is he running?
Zimmerman: Down towards the other entrance to the neighborhood.
Dispatcher: Which entrance is that that he's heading towards?
Zimmerman: The back entrance...fucking [disputed/unintelligible]
Dispatcher: Are you following him?
Zimmerman: Yeah.
Dispatcher: Okay, we don't need you to do that.
Zimmerman: Okay.
Dispatcher: All right, sir, what is your name?
Zimmerman: George...He ran.
Dispatcher: All right, George, what's your last name?
Zimmerman: Zimmerman.
Dispatcher: And George, what's the phone number you're calling from?
Zimmerman: [redacted]
Dispatcher: All right, George, we do have them on the way. Do you want to meet with the officer when they get out there?
Zimmerman:: Yeah.
Dispatcher: Alright, where you going to meet with them at?
Zimmerman: If they come in through the gate, tell them to go straight past the club house, and uh, straight past the club house and make a left, and then they go past the mailboxes,[Note 3, 4th picture] that's my truck...[unintelligible]
Dispatcher: What address are you parked in front of?
Zimmerman: I don't know. It's a cut through so I don't know the address.[Note 3, 6th & 7th pictures]
Dispatcher: Okay. Do you live in the area?
Zimmerman: Yeah, I...[unintelligible]
Dispatcher: What's your apartment number?
Zimmerman: It's a home. It's 1950,[Note 3, 3rd picture] Oh, crap. I don't want to give it all out. I don't know where this kid is.
Dispatcher: Okay. Do you want to just meet with them right near the mailboxes then?
Zimmerman: Yeah, that's fine.
Dispatcher: All right, George. I'll let them know to meet you around there okay?
Zimmerman: Actually, could you have them call me and I'll tell them where I'm at?
Dispatcher: Okay, yeah. That's no problem.
Zimmerman: Should I give you my number or you got it?
Dispatcher: Yeah, I got it [redacted]
Zimmerman: Yeah, you got it.
Dispatcher: Okay. No problem. I'll let them know to call you when they're in the area.
Zimmerman: Thanks.
Dispatcher: You're welcome.[92]

[pokerfan]

10. Ah

I see the source of your confusion.

That wasn't 911.

[JDPriestly]

11. Why do you say that was not 911? I always thought it was.

[former-republican]

13. That was police dispatch

Zimmerman had called them several times before.

[robinlynne]

14. it was not. he called the police directly, as he did 100 other times. to report someone walking

around. NOT 911.

[pokerfan]

15. That was the non emergency number

which is for, you know, non emergencies.

[lightcameron]

27. It wasn't an emergency when he called.

And when the emergency did occur, he had already been told that police were on the way.

Wouldn't a "depraved mind" not involve the police at all?

[Blue_Tires]

36. So why did he even call in the first place?

And why did Zimmerman pack his conversation full of vague descriptions insinuating

1. Martin was probably responsible for a rash of burglaries
2. Martin was probably on drugs
3. Martin was probably armed
4. Martin was an immediate danger, and had already committed or was in the process of committing or escaping from a crime (Which I why I must follow him NOW!!)

Especially since he knows the dispatcher is always prepared to assume the worst-case scenario???

Been asking for an answer for this from day one, and not one Zimmerman defender has even addressed it...

[lightcameron]

44. That'd be a great rhetorical question to present to the jury.

They'll use that fact to judge Zimmerman's state of mind and intent.

Odd that someone who believes in the justice system and trials is labeled a 'Zimmerman defender'. Do you regularly decide cases before you hear all of the sworn evidence? If so, why? What do you gain from doing that? And what's your W/L record?

[Blue_Tires]

50. It's not a "rhetorical" question, since Zimmerman set the

whole thing in motion...

That should be the first question asked...

[magical thyme]

71. um, it's nice to have the police on the way when somebody has been shot

but, frankly, if I'm ever shot I really hope somebody calls 911 and gets an *ambulance.*

His mind is depraved because he deprived Martin of medical assistance.

The police couldn't prevent Martin from dying.

Sitting on his back and preventing him from breathing wasn't going to prevent Martin's dying.

Getting the fuck off of him and getting medical attention *may* have prevented Martin's dying.

[noiretextatique]

77. a depraved mind would tell people not to call 911

after he shot someone, as this idiot did. he's guilty as sin.

[vaberella]

16. Police dispatch is not 911. 911 comes with ambulance...

Police dispatch just sends out a unit.

[lightcameron]

23. The police were on their way, Zimmerman knew they were, and they got there in two minutes.

Perhaps you and Mr. Leatherman could argue depravity from a different angle.

Who calls the police to alert them that they're chasing someone they intend to kill?

[leftynyc]

26. Are you being purposefully dense?

The OP is about calling an ambulance AFTER he had shot Mr. Martin - which he clearly did not do.

[lightcameron]

28. No, I usually do that by accident. (edit)

But back to the matter at hand....

As I've stated, I'm trying to see this how I think a jury might see it, not how people with a preset agenda want others to see it, which is clearly Leatherman's goal.

Zimmerman alerts police that he's pursuing someone. A scuffle ensues. Trayvon is shot. Inside of two minutes, police are on the scene, something Zimmerman knew would occur.

I don't think a jury is going to buy the depravity argument. Who alerts police when they're setting out to kill someone in cold blood?

EDIT: I understand that there's a majority sentiment on this website. In fact, I was here when there were denials of Zimmerman's injuries and then when the photos came out, there were cries here of their being "Fake!" So I understand that there's a predetermined outcome desired among many here. What I'm saying is that this is not an open-and-shut case, and really the only useful way of looking at evidence is trying to determine how it will play to a jury.

And now I'm off to work. Cheers!

[Blue_Tires]

38. It SHOULD BE open-and shut

1. Martin wasn't committing any crime, and was minding his business
2. Martin was unarmed
3. Zimmerman racially profiles Martin as a dangerous criminal and follows him even though he lacks the cause or authority to do so
4. Martin is shot by Zimmerman

And please don't start with that "predetermined outcome" trolling-lite bullshit again, especially when it was the Zimmerman defenders who dug up all those fake Martin pics...

Oh, wait a minute...I DO already know you, don't I?

[lightcameron]

43. Who faked Zimmerman's injury photos?

And regardless of the case, why should we not hear the evidence in court, under oath, before declaring something closed?

I realize that the presumption of innocence doesn't apply to everyday citizens speaking their minds, but I should think just for the sake of being rational that people would want to hear all of the sworn evidence before making up their minds.

[Blue_Tires]

51. The trial will play itself out, but you haven't addressed these facts...

1. Martin wasn't committing any crime, and was minding his business
2. Martin was unarmed
3. Zimmerman racially profiles Martin as a dangerous criminal and follows him even though he lacks the cause or authority to do so
4. Martin is shot by Zimmerman

I can't imagine any situation where Zimmerman gets acquitted unless the jury is all-redneck conservatives...

Ever since you've been here you've had NO answer for any of this...But keep trying...

[lightcameron]

53. You can't imagine any scenario in which Zimmerman is acquitted

because you're deliberately leaving out the evidence that he was injured in a struggle.

That's going to be part of the trial. Surely you know that. So why leave it out of your analysis?

[Blue_Tires]

55. You mean the struggle that he started by tailing an innocent teen?

THAT struggle??

And Mr. badass wannabe neighborhood watch can't subdue or escape from an innocent teen without deadly force? Got it...

And the struggle is the end of the incident chain -- I'm still waiting for my answer on why he followed Martin in the first place...You keep ducking it

[lightcameron]

57. Yes, that one.

I doubt the prosecution is going to try to use the "But he started it!" excuse. That's not part of the Stand Your Ground law.

I'm still waiting for my answer on why he followed Martin in the first place...You keep ducking it

I haven't exactly been ducking it. It's just not worth spending time on because, as I'm sure you know, motive is not an element of crime. Now, if you're asking whether there was "intent" to follow him, sure, of course there was. I assume you know the difference between motive and intent, right?

You've seen the photographs of Zimmerman's injuries. How do you think he got those?

[Blue_Tires]

59. "...Not worth spending time on..." = Still another dodge....

If it was important enough for him to call the police, it's important enough to examine...But you keep on ducking the question, since you've been already been doing it since April...

[lightcameron]

72. Nope. Motive isn't an element of crime.

You're projecting with the "ducking" charge. Your argument completely ignores a major element of what occurred that night. There's no reason not to take everything into account, unless you're shaping the evidence to fit a predetermined outcome.

Nice try, mate.

[Blue_Tires]

75. Still ducking like goddamned champ

I'm not ignoring the confrontation at all; but that's all you ever want to focus on...

Let me guess: you're one of those who doesn't think racial profiling doesn't exist at all, right??

And I'm not "shaping" evidence; this is exactly what fucking happened -- NONE of this is in dispute, which is why you keep bitching out when I ask you to address these four points:


1. Martin wasn't committing any crime, and was minding his business
2. Martin was unarmed
3. Zimmerman racially profiles Martin as a dangerous criminal and follows him even though he lacks the cause or authority to do so
4 (updated). Zimmerman shoots an unarmed Martin after a physical scuffle, although by any account Zimmerman would be considered the aggressor...

But you keep on with your same old, tired-assed speculatory talking points that you've been parroting all this time while pulling an escape act when it comes to any real discussion...

Not that I haven't enjoyed our little game on occasion, but between you and me, man-to-man; why do you even give a shit? We both know once this case has concluded you're slinking back from whence you came (or just returning to your 'primary' DU account)...You just like to pour blood in the water and get the sharks in a frenzy? Are you scared that if Zimmerman is convicted someone is going to grab your guns? What is it? And don't start some bullshit about wanting "justice" or a "fair trial" or "hearing both sides of the story", because one, that has all been hashed and re-hashed and two, you never post in any other legal discussion threads...

I'm just curious why you do it -- What's your stake in all this? By my estimation you've had at least 20 sock accounts banned, and at the pace you burn through them you've probably got another 50 on standby...You haven't changed a single DUer's opinion on this case out of all the time you've been here, so why keep doing it? What do you get out of this?

[DiverDave]

61. I SAW the tape of him

getting out of the cop car and he had NO INJURIES!
NONE.
So now I'm supposed to believe the lie and not my EYES??
He was waliking and talking fine.
No blood, no bumps-NOTHING.

So take that "he was injured" crap and throw it in the trash.

[lightcameron]

73. Who faked the photographs?

[Whisp]

70. Daddy Zim, is that you? n/t

[lightcameron]

74. It's Papa.

[robinlynne]

12. It was NOT to 911. he called the police station regularly. your mistake.

[SlipperySlope]

18. Misses the point

1: Although that call has often been referred to as a "911 call", it was to the Sanford Police Department non-emergency line. The police reports that outline the sequence of events make that clear.

2: Even if it was a 911 call, it wouldn't repudiate the point that Leatherman is trying to make. Leatherman's point is that after shooting Trayvon, Zimmerman should have immediately called 911 to report the shooting and to request medical assistance. Even if Zimmerman had made a 911 call prior to the shooting, Leatherman would argue that the act of shooting changed the circumstances and warranted a new call to make sure medical care was en route.

3: I don't completely agree with Leatherman's argument. The shooting occurred at roughly 7:16. Police were on the scene (responding to Zimmerman's earlier call) at roughly 7:17. Zimmerman had already been told by at least one witness "I'm calling 911". While I can fault Zimmerman for several things, I can't assign great malice to the fact that he didn't independently call 911 in the <2 minutes between the shooting and the arrival of police, especially given he had already been told 911 had been called.

[lightcameron]

25. Your #3 is key, and I suspect that's how the jury will see it.

[TorchTheWitch]

20. Leatherman is talking about a 911 call to report the shooting

not the previous call before he shot Trayvon. The call he made, as Leatherman explains, before the shooting was not an emergency, did not tell police exactly where in the complex they were, and did not involve any need for emergency medical assistance. Though the police arrived as a result of the call he made before the shooting, they were not in a rush to save someone's life, had to find where they were in the complex, and because that call was before the shooting, there was no emergency medical personnel on the way. Zimmerman had asked someone to call his WIFE to tell her about the shooting, but deliberately did not call 911 about the shooting, asked others not to call about it and lied saying he had already called 911 but he DIDN'T call about the shooting - he let people assume that he had called about the shooting when he did not and had called about a non-emergency situation before the shooting. The police arrived not knowing exactly where they were, having no idea that a shooting had occurred and no idea that emergency medical personnel were needed immediately.

Further, Zimmerman's own words in reporting that he did not know that Trayvon had died until he got to the police station says that he knew that he was alive while he was sitting on his back after shooting him in the chest with his hands around his neck. All that together shows that Zimmerman knew the police were going to arrive any moment and he wanted Trayvon dead before they arrived so he would have no chance to say anything before dying about what had happened and could not be saved by medical intervention in order that he live and be able to tell his story of what happened. Zimmerman wanted him dead so he could not say anything about what happened leaving Zimmerman free to make up whatever story he wanted to get him off the hook, and both his physical actions and actions about telling people not to call 911 about the shooting and lying saying he already had knowing that people would assume that he meant that he called 911 about the shooting profoundly show this to be true.

This makes Zimmerman much more hideous and guilty as sin than I ever imagined, and this goes a LONG way in explaining why the prosecution charged him with second degree murder.

I am devastated to find that Trayvon didn't die right away and suffered horribly for some time until he finally did. I had assumed and was gratified by thinking he died immediately or at least very close to immediately so he didn't have to suffer all that time in agony before finally passing. And all the while knowing Zimmerman was deliberately killing him.

[JDPriestly]

22. The evidence needs to be presented in court in my opinion, before

we can draw some of the confusions in your post.

The police arrived very quickly after the shooting as I have understood the facts.

And we don't know how much of Zimmerman's reactions might have been due to his general lack of intelligence. Also, we often do not think rationally in an emergency.

One thing is certain. These events should prevent Zimmerman from ever becoming a police officer -- and that is good because he probably has neither the intelligence nor the emotional stability needed to be a good policeman.

[lightcameron]

24. I doubt very much that a jury will squabble over whether he called 911 or a non-emergency line.

He called the police.

The prosecutor will have to argue that he called the police to alert them to the fact that he was chasing someone he intended to kill in cold blood.

[pokerfan]

30. Nope

What you just said would be true if he was charged with first degree murder but he's not.

The primary distinction between Premeditated First Degree Murder and Second Degree Murder with a Depraved Mind is that First Degree Murder requires a specific and premeditated intent to kill.

[lightcameron]

31. I think we're talking two different things here.

You're citing the definition. And, of course, that's correct.

I'm saying when you get twelve humans in the jury box, a skilled defense attorney like Mr. O'Mara will have them doubting the 'depravity' of his client because he'd already involved law enforcement before he shot Trayvon.

Just watch. That's what Mr. O'Mara will do.

[pokerfan]

34. everything changed after the shooting

After the shooting he specifically told a witness not to call 911. He told other witnesses that he had already called 911, leading them to believe that emergency assistance was on the way when in fact, he knew no ambulance was coming. All he knew was than an officer was en route to investigate a non emergency situation.

You're right. The jury will draw its own conclusions.

[lightcameron]

45. How did he know that no ambulance was coming?

Did he have prior knowledge that calling the non-emergency line worked that way, when a dispatcher assesses the situation and decides who and what to dispatch?

Or did the dispatcher tell him that no ambulance was coming?

I'm not sure we know the answers to those questions, and assumptions don't count. Good stuff to dig up during the trial.

[pokerfan]

46. because the NEN dispatcher told him an officer had been sent

You posted the transcript up thread. Have you even read it?

Zimmerman: How long until you get an officer over here?
Dispatcher: Yeah, we've got someone on the way. Just let me know if this guy does anything else.
Zimmerman: Okay. These assholes, they always get away.

[lightcameron]

54. Correct.

But the prosecution will have to pin down Zimmerman's knowledge of how the NEN works.

The only factor will be what he knew or didn't know.

[pokerfan]

56. You think the NEN dispatcher knew someone had been shot?

You might want to read that transcript again.

[lightcameron]

58. No, never said that.

Again, if they pursue your line of prosecution, they're going to have to prove what Zimmerman knew and didn't know. It won't matter what anyone thinks he thought; it only matters what they can prove he knew or didn't know.

I've read and listened to the transcript. It will be interesting to see how the government goes from that to depravity. I'm sure they have a path to it, otherwise they wouldn't have charged him. Just a matter of the jury buying it or not.

[noiretextatique]

78. a sane jury will see right through his pathetic "defense"

and hopefully convict his sorry ass.

[yardwork]

32. His call to 911 brought police, not an ambulance. Zimmerman didn't call an ambulance for Martin.

The point of this is that Zimmerman lied to witnesses and said that he'd called an ambulance, when he knew that he had not. Zimmerman's actual call to 911 was sending police officers to respond to a suspected prowler. This is very different from an call stating that somebody has been shot and requires emergency medical care.

The police arrived within two minutes. When did the ambulance for Martin arrive?

[csziggy]

49. Zimmerman has also claimed that he was in fear for his life

BECAUSE in the past police did not respond to calls quickly.

As for your facts - Zimmerman did NOT call 911. He called a non-emergency number to report a suspicious person in his neighborhood. If he wanted a quicker response, he should have called 911.

Zimmerman has tried to distort the occurences that night every which way. I do not believe a word that he says. The phrases that he used to the operator on his non-emergency call to the Sanford Police Department are almost identical to those he used in at least one earlier call to the SPD. He had a memorized set of phrases meant to get a response from the police.

If Zimmerman had really wanted to protect his neighborhood, why did he not - while on the phone to the SPD - stick his head out and ask Trayvon Martin what he was doing there? If the teenager had meant to commit a crime in that area, having an adult take note and ask him about his presence would have put him on notice.

The report by the original investigator indicated that Zimmerman, the adult who was a "neighborhood watch captain" and ostensibly studying police procedures, had more than one opportunity to defuse the situation. Instead, his actions resulted in the death of a young man.

We'll never know what actually happened because Zimmerman is a liar and the only other person died at his hands.

[Hoyt]

3. Will he plea bargin, or hope that one or more jurors don't care about truth?

I'm assuming this link's story will be corroborated

[Egalitarian Thug]

4. Wow, I haven't had to hide a Zimmerman thread for almost a month. n/t

[Cha]

19. And, here you are

posting on it.

[LisaL]

7. The woman Marcy Cutcher actually claimed Zimmerman told her "just call the police."

"And then the third time he finally said, "Call the police.""

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1203/20/acd.02.html

[vaberella]

17. So instead of a Murder 2...this article is suggesting Murder 1? n/t

[TorchTheWitch]

21. no, it explains why it is murder 2 rather than manslaughter

Murder 1 is when the accused plans beforehand to kill the person. For instance, if Zimmerman decided to kill Trayvon while he was still sitting in his car, followed him for the purpose of killing him, and there was evidence of that purposeful intent then it would be Murder 1.

[vaberella]

33. Any proof that wasn't the case.

But I guess that would be a problem. Thanks for the explanation.

[barbtries]

29. murder.

no doubt in my mind.

[The Doctor.]

42. I hope there's a hell.

Because this asshole would BURN.

[DURHAM D]

63. Your post makes no sense.

Please try again.

[DURHAM D]

66. Enjoy your stay.

[michaelBr]

67. thank you

[NYC_SKP]

68. HEY ASSHOLE: (Results of your jury deliberation)

ALERTER'S COMMENTS:

This is a troll posting a pro Zimmerman post. Please hide so MIRT can take a look.

JURY RESULTS

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Aug 23, 2012, 07:04 PM, and the Jury voted 6-0 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT and said: Not that it matters I vote to hide, since this one won't be with us long. Probably gone as I type. Anyway, not sure what it is saying.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT and said: Mirt Alert: Clean up on aisle 3.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT and said: Eeeewww.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT and said: Third post and already an asshole. kill it. NYC_SKP

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

Buh Bye.

[Panasonic]

62. Okay. Amend to leave the charges from 2nd to 1st.

Zimmerman needs to be there for life or get a real ass-kicking in a terrible environment, where he's not guaranteed to survive past 6 seconds after he's released in gen pop, per judge's order.

[Whisp]

69. pathetic little man

that should not be allowed to mingle with others.

I hope he stays locked up for a long long time, and that his father and brother get some help for thier sick minds.