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Chris Christie just on with Stephanopolous..."IF Dems run HRC, and Howard Schultz runs as Independent, I guarantee Trump wins 2nd term." He seemed to be quite jolly with this, despite his book slamming Prince Jared.
BlueTsunami2018
(3,776 posts)Provided the asshole actually gets to run for another term.
katmondoo
(6,487 posts)MrsCoffee
(5,811 posts)She has more than served her country and this is beyond disrespectful.
Who are you to say she should retire? Should she take up knitting? FFS.
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Shes good at policy but generally bad at politics.
Of course she can do what she likes but she will never, ever be president
MrsCoffee
(5,811 posts)She is the smartest person in whatever room she is in.
Ill take that over some tweeting star any day of any week of any year.
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Theres a certain amount of raw charisma you need to play this game well and I just dont think she has that.
honest.abe
(9,238 posts)She is not our best candidate now... and yes, charisma is part of the reason.
MrsCoffee
(5,811 posts)Hillary doesnt have a charisma problem. America has a misogyny problem.
Misogyny is about to get its ass kicked by some very strong and courageous women. This country needs more voices like Hillarys.
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Its cool
triron
(22,240 posts)hueymahl
(2,625 posts)Hillary is not charismatic to a certain segment of the population (unfortunately, a large segment) in large part because of misogyny.
Regardless of the reason, the outcome is the same, as much as I hate to say it.
MrsCoffee
(5,811 posts)Not.
That's not how you make things change.
hueymahl
(2,625 posts)I was trying to agree with both of you. Of course we should run the most qualified candidates with the best chance of winning. To argue otherwise would be foolish.
triron
(22,240 posts)I really tire of the bullshit that she was beaten. The Russians manipulated the election
(and I claim physically altered the vote counts in several states).
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)rzemanfl
(30,133 posts)deal. What did Drumpf get? Oh, wait, news coverage. He lives for that.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and Trump-butt. I'd change the channel from any show that lowered itself to put that jerk on.
mainer
(12,125 posts)because they like so-called "smart businessmen" and Trump has embarrassed even them. He gives Trump voters an alternative.
While I think Dem voters are pretty much going to ignore him.
budkin
(6,849 posts)Which is already seen as a liberal bastion.
MrsCoffee
(5,811 posts)who really cares?
JI7
(90,054 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)hatrack
(60,269 posts)What a coincidence!
oberliner
(58,724 posts)still_one
(94,731 posts)candidate who is divisionary, who would help trump to a second term
Hillary made it clear a while back she was NOT go to run again. Yes, she could change her mind, but she isn't going to. The "unnamed people", who are spewing that she is considering it, are just trying to stir the pot among Democrats.
If the Democrats want a chance to win the WH in 2020, it would be will advised to choose a nominee that WASN'T involved in 2016
The ghosts of 2016, fairly or unfairly, are still alive and well.
edhopper
(34,395 posts)Last edited Mon Jan 28, 2019, 02:29 PM - Edit history (1)
he would have eaten her lunch.
He wouldn't have won, he would just eat her lunch, dinner and breakfast too.
lame54
(36,307 posts)And chairs
peggysue2
(11,232 posts)Hillary Clinton is not running in 2020. The right is merely ginning up the base, throwing red meat out to the rubes because the Nancy Pelosi bait has gone stale.
As for Schultz? Again, the only people who want Schultz to run are the Republicans, hoping he can siphon off Democratic votes and open the runway for the Imposter-in-Chief. The Schultz bait is a loser at the gate. How many Dems would want another inexperienced business type, commander of the coffee-makers? Maybe we, the Democratic Party, should however encourage Schultz. Seems to me he'd be a better choice for Republicans disgusted with the Trumpster, those that still believe a businessman would make a fine president.
But Hillary Clinton. Stop it already. The woman has been put through the wringer enough times for 10 lifetimes. Give it a rest.
still_one
(94,731 posts)0rganism
(24,363 posts)i don't think HRC runs in 2020, except maybe as a barrage balloon during early primaries
50-50 on Schultz running
and it's going to take a lot more than either of those to "guarantee" Trump wins a 2nd term.
Docreed2003
(17,443 posts)So tired of these GOP assholes