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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI believe the shutdown ended because of the airplanes...it started to affect the rich..
5 years ago we DEMS in Stevens Point, WI were campaigning for Badgercare(Medicaid) and $10.10 Min Wage on the ballot. I am proud to say my testimony swayed the very very bad Rs on the Co Board, our last hurdle. The entire room stood up to give me an ovation.
It was hard work. Tons of research for handouts. We had go get signatures door to door, write letters, educate the public, etc....Then came the hearings...But some real shits on the Board asked "How much will my hamburger go up at McDonalds"?" that type of crap.
We were successful getting it on the ballot in 2014 and it passed !! However, Walker vetoed it. At the time my friend, an accountant,said "Jody, nothing will change until it affects the RICH". I always remembered that. And he has been proven right time and again.
I believe the shutdown ended because of the airplanes...you see, it started to affect the rich....the poor don't take planes...all the stories on TV about the FED workers' plight, etc...it was the airplanes.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)yardwork
(63,296 posts)Murkowski said that many of her Republican colleagues didn't notice anything at all until they had to wait in long TSA lines.
mitch96
(14,428 posts)The instant tRump stops the gov't ALL gov't workers should walk off the job..
No money? no work.. Hummm what is it when you work for someone and don't get paid??
SLAVERY... Lincoln ended that a while ago. .
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Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Also, approximately over 14 thousand out of 26 thousand (or more) refused to come into work concerning the IRS and this is the beginning of tax season.
shithole and his cronies and that includes the effed up Republican party was causing the lost of well over 5 billions so far in the shutdown.
These people didn't think of the consequences of the shutdown nor did they care.
The Republican party could care less about the 800,000 plus, including their families.
But the Republicans did care about airport security concerning their way home.
greymattermom
(5,788 posts)When I heard Ground Stop at LaGuardia, i knew it was over.
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)FreeJoe
(1,039 posts)The TSA has nothing to do with private planes. I don't know how much of impact ATC issues had.
maxsolomon
(34,473 posts)first class on commercial flights is where Senators generally fly.
private planes are where Trump's cabinet flies.
FakeNoose
(34,644 posts)All flights have to be registered on the national grid system, or they can't fly. It has been that way since 9/11. So yes it does affect the one per-centers and their ability to get around. I'm not a pilot so I can't say whether every small private airport is included. Does anyone here know?
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)kacekwl
(7,290 posts)the Democratic party stood strong and told trump to GFHimself.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)but, it was a combination of factors that all contributed to the end.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)There were rumors of that happening.
FakeNoose
(34,644 posts)If people can't get into and out of Atlanta in one weekend, how can they have a SB with a half-full stadium?
I'll bet somebody said that to Cheeto just before he finally caved.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Nothing can surprise me at this point.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Were they really impacted? The rest us fly commercial and once I saw the headline about LGA diverting, I knew it wouldn't be long before Republicans ended the #trumpshutdown and re-opened government. Drumpf's tanking poll numbers helped, with the Marie Antoinette's of his administration fanning the flames. McConnell getting schooled by members of his own party probably factored in a little as well. And Dirty Don realizing that Ms. Pelosi wasn't going to yield definitely helped.
MaryMagdaline
(7,555 posts)NYC to West Palm Beach airport.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)A ground stop at LGA is a major deal.
DFW
(55,858 posts)No wait to get a taxi into town on the 4th, but left 3 hours before fight time on the 12th to go back down to Dallas because of all the horror stores I had heard. So it took half an hour to get to La Guardia from Grand Central, and another 15 minutes to check in and go through security. There was NO ONE there. I twiddled my thumbs in the departure area for almost 2 hours.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)It's not just rich people who fly on planes.
jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)I am talking about a way of life...the HUD bldg where I assist...folks make from $4grand to $15grand a YEAR...while I am sure the 78 year old lady in a wheelchair has flown a few times in her 7 decades of life..it is not part of their lives on a daily basis...like it is for the wealthy.
ProfessorGAC
(68,263 posts)...I've flown over a thousand times! More than 500 round trips.
We're comfortable, but not rich.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)We werent rich either.
Comfortable, but he hated the travel.
ProfessorGAC
(68,263 posts)...before I retired because I only had to travel a few times a year and at least 3 I could just get puppy in car and drive there.
It got old.
DFW
(55,858 posts)I fly less these days because Europe has so many hi-speed trains. My weekly flights down to Paris and back have been replaced by Thalys trains, and it's now under three hours to Brussels or Frankfurt, under four to Berlin, Paris or Stuttgart, and when you arrive, you're already downtown.
With the many low-cost airlines here, it's cheaper to fly to places like Spain, Italy, Greece or Turkey than it is to get there by any other means of transportation. Air travel IS the common man's way of travel for leisure travel over here. Plus, to get back to North America, who has the time or the money to blow on a cruise ship?
hack89
(39,171 posts)I flew 20 times myself. And none of us are rich.
jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)for me...rich is relative, isn't it.....If I make $11 grand a year I did not fly in the last 35 days, you likely didn't, either. Airport shutdowns affected those richer than us..so I called them rich...
hack89
(39,171 posts)20 times in one year means flying nearly twice a month.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)The overwhelming percentage of Americans don't fly on a even remotely regular basis and the vast, vast majority of cargo travel on the ground or water by truck, train or ship.
I honestly think that it was more the likihood of tax return checks being heavily delayed and food stamps expiring in one week that moved The Idiot in Chief from his foolish position.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)mitch96
(14,428 posts)Didn't iVanka get heckled on a commercial Jet Blue flight to Florida??? Poor baby... not even first class...
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No shit.
jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)I think it was also the increasing reported problems at the Atlanta airport - they are expecting 150,000 (?!) for the Super Bowl this coming weekend. Talk about bad press!
bitterross
(4,066 posts)I used to fly years ago. Before there were security check points and frisking. Before anyone asked for more than just your ticket - they didn't even ask for an ID. I flew on another person's ticket several times. They weren't going to use it, so I did.
Back then, flying was for business travelers and the upper-class/rich. These days, airplanes are buses with wings.
I suspect the Congress critters being inconvenienced and the fact that the travel to/from the Superbowl would be a huge PR nightmare had more to do with it than with the "rich" being inconvenienced.
jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)the people I mentioned in the HUD bldg do not fly, they don't even drive..out of 71 tenants 13 have cars...I look out my window and see guys on their bicycles in minus 27 degrees returning from the grocery store with supplies.
I suppose the term rich is relevant...the HUD guy making $4grand a year is rich to the homeless shelter guy next door..who has no roof....
Have flown and DO FLY also figures in...I have flown 4x in 67 years..whereas my sis the ballerina flies all over the world.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Im thinking yes.
jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)you might be interested to know that is what they call each other..don't pretend to walk in their shoes...we love respect and help each other...I am sorry you are offended by a phrase we use....you would be surprised how candid they are and they call a spade a spade.
Put your outrage to good use...volunteer at your homeless shelter.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)And spare me the lecture on what I should do in my spare time.
Sneederbunk
(14,855 posts)shanti
(21,702 posts)I always felt that it would come down to the airplanes, both people and cargo. Plus the superbowl is coming up. Can't have the NFL owners losing money, can they? They probably read him the riot act.
roamer65
(36,902 posts)Thats why.
Hermit-The-Prog
(36,144 posts)The ruling Russiapublicans do not like being inconvenienced.
DFW
(55,858 posts)Trump would listen to him as much as any Republican in Congress.