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SO.... it's looking like Tiny's freefall is accelerating. One of these days, hopefully, he'll be gone from the White House, which of course will leave Pence in charge. Although that alternative is marginally more attractive than Tiny in the Oval Office it's still scary.
What does Mueller have on Pence? Surely he played a part in the Russian collusion, but is it enough to see him fall under the articles of impeachment?
(Let's just say that I'm dreaming of being able to say the words "PRESIDENT PELOSI" .
SHRED
(28,136 posts)Why?
groundloop
(11,533 posts)democratisphere
(17,235 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)The subtext to picking Pence was "see? there *is* an adult in the room... no worries, fellow bro-flakes"
volstork
(5,403 posts)He's as dirty as they come.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)It would be a mistake to underestimate Mueller.
C_U_L8R
(45,038 posts)Behind that vanity bible, hes as corrupt as anyone else in this conspiracy.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)President Pelosi will finish drumpf/pence's term THEN will be elected for an additional 4 year term.
volstork
(5,403 posts)Since we couldn't have HRC...
catrose
(5,079 posts)FM123
(10,054 posts)Pence has always been shady, that's the only kind of people trumpy likes to hang with.
"During a failed 1990 congressional run, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, Donald Trump's newly announced running mate, used nearly $13,000 in campaign funds for a slew of personal purposes, including paying down his mortgage and covering golf tournament fees."
According to 1990 campaign finance records, Pence used $12,867 from his campaign account for personal expenses. That's the equivalent of about $23,700 in 2016.
The payouts included seven $992 mortgage payments and seven of his wife's $222 car payments. More cash went to buy household groceries, pay off Pence's credit cards and even cover the costs of participating in golf tournaments.
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/mike-pence-13k-campaign-funds-mortgage-golf-fees-article-1.2714118
groundloop
(11,533 posts)THAT might explain why Manafort wanted him so bad, corrupt as hell.
Kajun Gal
(1,907 posts)CharleyDog
(759 posts)Big Dumbo rescued Pence from ignominy and obscurity. To have to endure Pence as *president* might be worse. The only thing that might give him pause in his push for a theocracy, The Rapture, racism, and Stone Age values, would be harsh punishment and criticism of Dumbo and his gang of crooks.
Qutzupalotl
(14,341 posts)and hired Flynn despite being warned he was a foreign agent.
akraven
(1,975 posts)I still don't get golf! But yeah, he's probably a little worse than sTrump, because he's smarter.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)we know 100% if he has been interviewed or not but I believe the word is he has not and I don't think that is good for him.
ffr
(22,681 posts)Was it for his participation in the May 8th 2017 memo to fire James Comey. He was in the room with McGahn and Individual-1. Or is it his involvement with Mike Flynn during the transition period when Flynn was double dealing with Turkey and promising lifting Russian sanctions. Or was it with Mike Flynn's son, which I think Mueller has something on and I believe Mike Pence hired to be on the transition team. Hmmm. Or was it Bijan Kian, who worked in the transition team's Office of the Director of National Intelligence, while he conspired with Mike Flynn and Mike Flynn conspired at the direction of Jared Kushner to ease sanctions on Russia right under the nose of Mike Pence, who headed the Trump transition team.
Meanwhile on November 18th Rep. Elijah Cummings sent a letter to Mike Pence warning him about Flynn (Obama warned Trump previously to the same fact) and SURPRISE, Mike Pence was still lying to the America People publicly months later that Flynn had no Russian contacts and conveniently claims he never got the Cumming's letter. And this is all if you ignore what kind of background story it is that Paul Manafort, who's going away for life, was the guy who hand picked Mike Pence for the VP role and was backed up in Manafort's insistence for the role by Jared Kushner.
And in case you're thinking, okay that's a little fishy, but it doesn't prove anything. Well then, there's the who fact that Mueller's team raided and collected transition team electronics, paperwork, and internal E-mail messages, so they know what was said, when it was said when matching it to the the various investigative timelines.
The real issue is precedent. Agnew was removed from office before Nixon and still we got Ford. So I'm wondering that even with Pence going down for his high crimes, when tRump falls we'll somehow end up with a republican of some unknown origin, like Julian Assange or Flynn's son or Barr's nephew as POTUS.
imanamerican63
(13,836 posts)0rganism
(23,991 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,254 posts)He has to take Trump and Pence down at the same time, maybe (hopefully) Mitch McConnell and others as well.
poli-junkie
(1,008 posts)I think they travel in the same Christofascist circles.