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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 02:43 PM Dec 2018

Biden Has Top Score Among Dem Presidential Contenders

American voters give former Vice President Joseph Biden a 53 - 33 percent favorability rating, topping President Donald Trump's negative 40 - 56 percent favorability rating and besting a list of possible 2020 Democratic presidential contenders, according to a Quinnipiac University National Poll released today.

Former Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton has the highest unfavorable score on the list, a negative 32 - 61 percent favorability, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh- pe-ack) University National Poll finds.

Biden gets an 84 - 7 percent favorability rating among Democrats and a 60 - 21 percent rating among voters 18 to 34 years old. Results for others on the Democratic Guess List are:
A divided 44 - 42 percent favorability for Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, including 74 - 13 percent among Democrats and 57 - 29 percent among voters 18 to 34 years old;
24 - 20 percent for Texas U.S. Rep. Beto O'Rourke, with 55 percent who haven't heard enough about him to form an opinion;
Negative 30 - 37 percent for Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren;
22 - 26 percent for New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker, with 51 percent who haven't heard enough;
Negative 22 - 32 percent for former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg;
A divided 20 - 22 percent for California Sen. Kamala Harris, with 57 percent who haven't heard enough;
14 - 17 percent for New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, with 68 percent who haven't heard enough;
12 - 9 percent for Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown, with 77 percent who haven't heard enough.
Voters say 81 - 16 percent that Trump will run for reelection in 2020.


https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2591





Senator Bernie Sander has a middling 44/42 approval disapproval rating. That is before he goes through the electoral meat grinder should he decide to run. That is an empirical observation and not a normative one.
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Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
1. If you're expecting Bernie's favorability to drop
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 02:51 PM
Dec 2018

...if he runs, then hopefully you expect the same with Joe Biden.

Biden voted for the Iraq War. He supports a zero tolerance approach to drugs. He voted against abolishing the Electoral College.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
2. I was making an empirical observation and not a normative one.
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 02:56 PM
Dec 2018

A well know politician having roughly equal approval/disapproval numbers prior to going through the presidential election meat grinder is not in a particularly good place. My observation would be the same regardless of the potential candidate. If Biden had similar numbers I would have said that's not good.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
3. well based on your assumption here, we're basically in deep shit unless our candidate is Biden.
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 03:10 PM
Dec 2018

I'm not convinced Biden can make much of an impression in the primaries. He hasn't previously, and that's because he's pretty damn vanilla, and doesn't seem to have big lofty positions, nor does any kind of conciliatory work across the aisle nonsense sell to people any more. It wont work. Its been proven to not work.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
5. Even the young Parkland gun violence victims are on to
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 04:14 PM
Dec 2018

Bernie’s damaging gun votes. They were about 3 or 4 years old when Bush’s Iraq war started, so you would have to force feed them the Dem bashing like what was done to Hillary. They are into current events, especially gun violence.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
8. Exactly, those numbers are going in the wrong direction. Looks like people
Wed Dec 19, 2018, 06:36 PM
Dec 2018

have seen enough.

Here's a clip of Biden on Ellen's show, especially at 1:09 where she asks him to run and later where she said it is what she would like to see and then a quip about being his running mate. Biden consistenly polls the highest of all Dems, but look how a few don't/won't acknowledge that in favor of some stale rehashed talking points they think are important. There are much newer topics that we need to speak to.

https://www.ellentube.com/video/vice-president-joe-biden-on-running-for-president-in-2020.html#time=0

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