My Right Wing Facebook Friend called R. Maddow unintelligent

[Heather MC]

I posted the lastest Maddow Video on my FB page because she really did her homework in showing Mittens to be a liar.
As soon as I posted it My Right Wing Friend commented on Rachel
the conversation is below

ME:
Rachel Maddow, "The last time Mitt Romney asked us to just trust him, it turns out he was lying. ..Do you think he is telling the truth now?...Do you trust him to be President of the United States?"

Her:
I wouldn't believe Rachel Maddow if she said the sky was blue.....

about an hour ago via mobile · Like · 1..


ME:
Well in this Video she is merely using a factual paper trail that anyone can look back in History and fact check her story. What part of this video is unbelieveble?

about an hour ago · Like..

HER:
That she's intelligent....

about an hour ago via mobile · Like..


ME:
Rachel Maddow is one of the smartest journalist on TV today. At least when people with opposing views come on her show. she has an actual conversation with them and not a childish screaming match. Did you watch the video I posted, what part of that video makes her come off as unintelligent?


Now it's been an Hour so far she has not written back. I can't go hard on this woman she is my Husband's former Commanders Wife.
She currently has an older son who is severly mentally challenged and living off Medicare and Social Security. She has 3 other Children at home with simular issues whom I am sure once they reach adult hood will HAVE to rely on Social Security to survive. I have no desire to change her mine, I just want to know if she even bothered to watch the video I posted. I know she didn't because her first comment came 30 secs after I posted the over 9 min video LOL.

And I know someone may ask why even bother to engage her, here's why she posted on MY FACEBOOK PAGE. I don't engage her on her page, but if she comes to my page, I will happily have a rational conversation with her as long as she is willing to respond.

[RKP5637]

1. I would never consider a RW'er to be an authority on intelligence. n/t

[Rosa Luxemburg]

10. Correct

or an authority on spelling

[MADem]

2. You cannot fix stupid. Isn't there a DE-FRIEND button on that Face Book thingy?

I would urge you to use it. Unless wasting time with stupid people is something that amuses you...

[Heather MC]

18. These things always happen to me by accident

I forget because MY DH is military I tend to have a few Wing nut friends
I am always posting R Maddow Videos on my FB
This was the first she responded
in Typical Wing Nut fashion she attacked the messenger and not the message which why I usually steer clear of these kinds people.

But I am capable of having a rational discussion with anyone about anything and anytime. Unfortunately with my Wing Nut Friends it always ends badly
I promise I don't do this offtend, I have to protect my good brain cells for the future and i know this.

[southernyankeebelle]

28. I come from a long line of retired soldiers and all lifers - Over 60s and even wars. They

are all dems and would never consider being a republican, never. Not all the military are idiots.

[MADem]

29. I am a retired military careerist, myself--my GOP associates were in the distinct minority.

They didn't manage to promote as early or as often as we Dems did!

That paradigm of military wingnuts isn't terribly accurate, anyway. The military is an all volunteer enterprise and has been ever since the Vietnam War ended; it's chock-a-block full of minorities and women these days, and it reflects the fabric of America.

[southernyankeebelle]

42. Yes I agree with you. But I think the draft would cure some of these wingnuts.

[MADem]

43. It would probably help the soft little prats to 'get' how the other half lives! nt

[southernyankeebelle]

46. Well WWII sure put things in prospective for all of us. Shared sacrifices is what is needed by all.

Not just by middle class and working class people.

[Heather MC]

33. We live in a very very Blue County The Military and Other Government jobs is where I have always

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found the wing nuts and church of course, one of the reasons I stopped going
I can't worship with people who think back ally abortions are ok

[southernyankeebelle]

41. Sorry for that. You know what my husband and I noticed with the new breed of Vets

is the church mixing in with the population of military. Although my husband was a chaplain's assistant in the military I never say the actions of the church getting involved where they shouldn't. I remember Desert Storm when they we getting ready to go over to the middle east the chaplains offices knew they were not allowed to wear their crosses or bring bibles in the civilian communities. They knew they had limits. Today it is different. You see them breaking the boundaries and they don't care. This doesn't change hearts and minds. Also my husband says when he talks with these guys who come back some seem nutty.

[dogknob]

37. There is a fine line...

...between "wasting time with stupid people" and being heard outside of our usually friendly little bubble.

All of us hanging out in a spot where we pretty much agree on everything is not going to win anything in November.

Gotta get out there, no matter how futile it is most of the time.

[MADem]

44. You think that "mind" is going to be changed? Those are moments that can never be recovered,

arguing with an idiot like that.

The line in this case isn't very fine--it's drawn with a steamshovel and determined to be dumb as dirt.

I get out there all the time--I precinct walk, I dial for dollars, and I drive people to the polls. I know how to proselytize, and I know full well when the heathen won't hear the word, either. That individual? Total waste of time.

[n2doc]

3. Typical rightie. insults instead of arguments.

Maddow is one of the smartest people in media. But of course anything that doesn't match with their worldview is 'stupid'. No other reason.

[GoCubsGo]

4. People who are not intelligent don't become Rhodes Scholars.

Just sayin'.

[Politicalboi]

5. Rachel is a Rhodes Scholar

They are jealous, and afraid of her. My college educated older right wing brother says the same thing about Rachel. He watches Faux all day. You should ask your friend if Rmoney wins, how will that effect her and her kids who rely on SSI. I would assume the GOP would cut their benefits in half.

[malaise]

6. Wow A Stanford whiz kid who wins the scholarship to Oxford is not intelligent

SO how did she earn a fucking PhD?

Your RW friend is a quintessential ignoramus.

[Sedona]

7. yeah, because Rhodes scholars are "unintellegent"

From Wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachael_Maddow


Dr. Rachael Maddow attended Stanford University.

SNIP

At graduation she was awarded the John Gardner Fellowship. She was also the recipient of a Rhodes Scholarship and began her postgraduate study in 1995 at Lincoln College, Oxford. In 2001, she earned a Doctor of Philosophy (DPhil) in politics from Oxford University. Her thesis is titled HIV/AIDS and Health Care Reform in British and American Prisons (supervisor: Dr Lucia Zedner). She was the first openly gay American to win a Rhodes scholarship.

[Ruby the Liberal]

8. Next time she brings it up, you might want to remind her that it is Dr. Maddow.

[lob1]

9. The same people that think science is wrong about everything,

and education is a total waste of time, thinks Maddow isn't smart. See, it all fits.

[mnhtnbb]

11. You're wasting your time. Don't confuse her with the facts.

[niyad]

12. you cannot have a rational discussion with an irrational person.

how did you end up with this nutbar as a "friend"? you might ask her when SHE became a rhodes scholar (bet she does not even know what that is)

[Heather MC]

16. She use to be stationed at the same base as my DH

I should point out everyone hated her Husband when he was the commander. He is just as nutty as she is.

[fascisthunter]

13. friend?

ok

[riverbendviewgal]

14. Was her husband in Viet Nam?

do you think the children have the effects of Agent Orange?

[Heather MC]

19. Her Husband is a musician the only bullet he didn't dodge was the one that came at him when he

married her
but he is just a crazy

[Lone_Star_Dem]

15. I consider myself to be somewhat of a veteran in these areas.

She's not looking for honest dialog with you. She's an opinion, which you cannot sway, she's attempting to project. That's what our extremely partisan acquaintances do.

The odds are, considering her input so far, she'll either not respond, or she'll go gather some inane RW retort to reply with.

It's up to you how you deal with her. Personally, having now reached my 40's, I've come to understand I don't have time for certain pettiness anymore.

Check your inner feelings. If you value her, say so and let it go. The odds are she won't be the one to offer an olive branch.

We're all different and in different stages of our lives. So, of course, your mileage may vary here.

[sandyshoes17]

17. I left fb about a month ago.

But been wanting to rejoin just for these fights. I am so tempted. I would be political 24/7and would lose most of my home town friends, I don't know, still On the fence about it. It is hard

[Heather MC]

21. Honestly I am almost done with FB myself. I am waiting for the Straw to break the camels back

[RockaFowler]

20. This is common practice with Right-Wingers

You post something and they don't like the truth, so they post an anti-view about it. When you call them out for not actually viewing something they snap back with something about Obama or somebody is stupid. Or even better they get all religious. It's the same M.O every single time . . .

[Heather MC]

24. Here's the Crazy thing SHE NEVER WATCHED THE VIDEO LOL

Her comment is purely her own imagination
I think people like her would explode if they actually sat and watch a 5 min segament of Maddow exposing their beloved Moronic leaders

[Bolo Boffin]

22. I had a family member call her the left's equivalent of Glenn Beck

I was FLOORED. I tried to make her show me one thing wrong in the clip I had posted: about the Fast and Furious "taking away our guns" conspiracy. She wouldn't. She just insisted Maddow was awful, awful, awful.

Hard to deal with people that can't support their beliefs with the facts and won't look at actual facts that contradict them.

[Motown_Johnny]

23. Rachel also has a PHd. in Politics. She knows her stuff.

[Terra Alta]

25. I'd tell your friend "get back to me

after you earn a Rhodes scholarship".

Sounds to me like Rachel has more intelligence in her pinky finger than your "friend" does in her entire body.

[Warpy]

26. "She can't be smart if she disagrees with MEEEE!!!!"

I'm afraid that's what you're up against with this poor dim woman.

I know the type all too well.

[proud patriot]

27. That is how I engage them of my fb wall

I will comment with my care on a republican friends wall .. On the political clearinghoues wall I go off , and they do too.

It's different levels of egagement for me .

[Cleita]

30. Rachel is a Rhodes scholar. If your friend has an equal or more impressive

credential, then she can talk. Otherwise she needs to STFU. If she posted on my page I would point that out to her and that saying that Rachel is dumb only makes her look dumb.

[Egalitarian Thug]

31. Hmm, let's see; Stanford graduate, Lincoln college Oxford, Oxford University, Rhodes Scholar

(the first openly gay American to receive this one), John Gardner Fellowship, yup, a real moron.

Why do you talk to these idiots?

[bupkus]

32. Rachel Maddow - Early life and education

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Maddow

A graduate of Castro Valley High School in Castro Valley, California, she attended Stanford University. While a freshman, she was outed by the college newspaper when an interview with her was published by the student newspaper before she could tell her parents. Maddow earned a degree in public policy from Stanford in 1994. At graduation she was awarded the John Gardner Fellowship. She was also the recipient of a Rhodes Scholarship and began her postgraduate study in 1995 at Lincoln College, Oxford. In 2001, she earned a Doctor of Philosophy (DPhil) in politics from Oxford University. Her thesis is titled HIV/AIDS and Health Care Reform in British and American Prisons (supervisor: Dr Lucia Zedner). She was the first openly gay American to win a Rhodes scholarship.

Pretty impressive.

Your "friend", based on their obviously uninformed comment, is likely just another typical RW moron.

[Heather MC]

34. Yes she is indeed

Rachel Rocks!!!!!!

[nadinbrzezinski]

35. Translation of RW ideology

to English.

What is going on with her friend, let me translate this, is a classic example of Anti Intellectualism.

The problem with R. Maddow is not that she is intelligent or not, in any intelligence scale you are familiar with. She is full of book learnin' and not common sense.

She is educated.

Educated people, by definition, are not intelligent because book learning is not what the common folk know.

What you just encountered was a world view.

I come across this crap every so often, since I am educated, have a college degree and everything. I have been told by RW to my face that book lernin' is not a mark of an intelligence person. And this goes back to oh. the 1740s.

[zappaman]

36. "I have been told by RW to my face...

that book lernin' is not a mark of an intelligence person. And this goes back to oh. the 1740s."

RW has been telling you this for 270 years?
How old are you?

[The Magistrate]

39. You Know, Sir, Deliberately Mis-Understanding Plain English Does Not Make You Look Too Bright

The level of stalking you engage in would not have been tolerated under the former rules and system of moderation.

[hfojvt]

38. unfortunately, Rachel is no more likely to sway people on the other side

than Hannity or Billo are likely to sway us.

As for her degrees, it seems that Dr. Laura has a PhD from Columbia University, and George Will has a PhD from Princeton. Ben Stein has a law degree from Yale.

Presumably those are all good schools. But do we on the left think that those three blind mice are intelligent?

Ultimately, it is probably better to make an argument in your own voice, and to do your own research.

[bupkus]

40. False equivalency

Aside from the fact that nothing will sway people from the other side, there is the minor issue that they're actually wrong on most economic, social and moral stands they take, and their educated minions are partisans who, even when they possess the education and intellect to discern fact from lies, choose to follow their partisan agenda instead.

They misuse their education and intellect to support partisan lies to further their own selfish ends.

[coalition_unwilling]

45. FB allows you to remove 'friends' from your list - they can still view your home page but

cannot post to it and to block former friends so that they can neither post nor see your home page.

Unclear to me why you are burning up moments of your life you will never get back on someone who does not care about the truth. But then I only have 20 FB 'friends'

[jsmirman]

47. I'll say this - I *love* Rachel, but

she should spend a year taking 1L classes. She's the type of person who would do it, and she needs to.

She really doesn't know what the hell she's talking about when she gets into areas involving legal questions. She doesn't recognize that certain phrases are necessary boilerplate from legal filings, or that certain dollar figures in legal filings just represent jurisdictional requirements. There are many examples like these two. She'd understand our country so much better with the benefit of just that single year of higher education.

I watch her show pretty much every night. Big fan. But the above is something she should do. It would make her that much better at running her show.