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Thu Dec 6, 2018, 08:59 AM

Somehow I knew that Joe Scar would try to twist the Epstein charges to try and include

Bill Clinton. I have always felt that he is obsessed with Bill Clinton. He forgets how peple tie him to the death of an intern. So, the same kind of entanglement he is creating about Clinton can be passed to him with a question about did he really have something to do with the death of an intern.

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Reply Somehow I knew that Joe Scar would try to twist the Epstein charges to try and include (Original post)
mfcorey1 Dec 6 OP
mucifer Dec 6 #1
mfcorey1 Dec 6 #3
rusty fender Dec 6 #22
tenderfoot Dec 6 #4
JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 6 #15
FSogol Dec 6 #6
karynnj Dec 6 #7
FSogol Dec 6 #8
karynnj Dec 6 #12
lostnfound Dec 6 #13
stonecutter357 Dec 6 #2
MaryMagdaline Dec 6 #5
InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 6 #10
MaryMagdaline Dec 6 #11
peekaloo Dec 6 #9
InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 6 #14
peekaloo Dec 6 #17
Whiskeytide Dec 6 #16
SharonClark Dec 6 #18
StevieM Dec 6 #19
RussBLib Dec 6 #20
uponit7771 Dec 6 #21
Hortensis Dec 6 #23

Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2018, 09:01 AM

1. I myself wonder about Bill Clinton and Epstein.

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Response to mucifer (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 6, 2018, 09:06 AM

3. Clinton, with secret service always with him, would be a fool to involve

himself in something so salacious. He is aware that if he evens breathes out of the wrong nostril, the press will find out and be happy to report it. Little is being said about Ken Starr being one of Epstein's lawyers.

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Response to mfcorey1 (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 6, 2018, 12:04 PM

22. You'd think, but

wasn’t he a fool to have an affair with an intern, in a room next to the Oval Office? And then, wouldn’t he have been even more foolish to lie about it?

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Response to mucifer (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 6, 2018, 09:10 AM

4. Do you think Epstein setup Clinton's CONSENSUAL affair with Monica?

eom

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Response to tenderfoot (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 6, 2018, 10:06 AM

15. Who cares? It was, as you say, CONSENSUAL. nt

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Response to mucifer (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 6, 2018, 09:14 AM

6. Don't you think if that had any truth, that the Star investigation would have found it?



I hope you aren't worrying about pizzagate too.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 6, 2018, 09:22 AM

7. The Star investigation was long over when Epstein was having parties

Like another poster, I would simply argue that there are no accusations against Clinton. Given that his name comes up within no more than 10 posts on every Epstein thread, he might be the person to benefit the most from a serious investigation that continues not to connect him with any charges.

There is a HUGE difference between Epstein being a major Democratic donor and Democrats being involved in this. I hope no Democrats helped him eveade a longer prison term. (Something Clinton, an ex President had no power to do.)

As to why this is out again -- it is because Trump was poised to nominate the man who gave him a sweetheart deal. The reason Clinton is mentioned is that it is part of a distorted "even handedness". The fact is there are not even credible accusations against Clinton while it is 100% fact that Epstein was given an incredibly light sentence in his deal.

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Response to karynnj (Reply #7)

Thu Dec 6, 2018, 09:25 AM

8. Every single time someone attempts to link Epstein and Clinton it is an attack on our party.

Sad to constantly see this crap on DU.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 6, 2018, 09:46 AM

12. I think it is part of the faux "even handedness"

I wish Clinton's name was not invoked, but it has been. I also think that it resonates due to the perception that he had multiple affairs. However, THERE WAS NEVER A HINT OF CLINTON BEING ACCUSED OF ANY UNDERAGE ACTION. Nor, are there (to my knowlege) any claims that he did anything.

I do have a different reaction. If there were no Democrats involved, DU would be demanding that this entire sleasy mess be investigated. It is very possible that powerful men abused powerless women, some of whom were children at the time. This is far beyond "me too" - not to diminish that. This includes a real pedeophile ring run for powerful men and Epstein was, to a very real extent, protected by other powerful men. No way should we stay silent because Republicans will shout out "Clinton". I do not think the smears against are true. This would mean an investigation would counter (but we all know no smear "ends" the whisphered lie.

I think we need to stand by our values and declare this wrong and demand that a deep investigation be done. It might not be a legal investigation because Epstein himself has already been tried, convicted and imprisioned.

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Response to mucifer (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 6, 2018, 09:52 AM

13. I can't picture Bill with underage girls, but epstain surely had a range of ages

And a range of parties and arrangements

Epstein would have benefitted in a variety of ways, just by having celebrity there

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Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2018, 09:03 AM

2. K&R

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Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2018, 09:13 AM

5. I, too, worry about Clinton and Epstein

It was my biggest worry for the 2016 election. However sleazy his relationship with Epstein, so far, no woman and definitely NO CHILD, has come forward to say that she had sex with Clinton at any Epstein property. So, either the victims are terrified to come forward, or there are no victims. No allegations, though, has to mean no allegations, or at least that was the case before Ken Starr. (I find it hard to believe that anyone brave enough to out Prince Andrew, would not be equally brave enough to out Bill Clinton).

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Response to MaryMagdaline (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 6, 2018, 09:26 AM

10. Your "biggest worry" is understandable... just glad that too didn't become an issue.

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #10)

Thu Dec 6, 2018, 09:36 AM

11. yea, but I hate the fact that I am being manipulated by a possible FAKE NEWS

I know nothing about Clinton and Epstein, and since there has been no accusation, it should be a complete non-story. Instead, because Bill Clinton is involved, someone like Joe Scarborough feels free to throw him in the mud without any evidence. And of course, Hillary gets the blame for not "controlling" her husband. Just playing to the RW, and I am wrapped up in it, even as a supporter of both Clintons.

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Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2018, 09:26 AM

9. CBS News mentioned Clinton and the flight logs a couple of nights ago.

Also showed a pic of Hair Furor and Epstein with the quote that the perv was "a terrific guy!".

Then added a statement from the WH that Thump and Epstein had "no relationship".

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Response to peekaloo (Reply #9)

Thu Dec 6, 2018, 09:59 AM

14. I thought I read somewhere that the PussyGrabber-in-Chief DID have a relationship

with EpSTAIN. This whole ugly mess SHOULD be thoroughly investigated, regardless of who is implicated along with The Dotard. People should not turn a blind eye to child abuse and rape, under ANY circumstances... I don't care who was involved.

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #14)

Thu Dec 6, 2018, 10:13 AM

17. Of course he did hence the denial.

CBS included that Thump quote about how they both admired beautiful women just that his buddy "liked them on the younger side."

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Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2018, 10:06 AM

16. The only somewhat real issue here is the fact that ...

... Bill Clinton had any association with Epstein at all. Good president - who sometimes showed poor judgment.

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Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2018, 11:42 AM

18. Yeah, and Joe Scar regularly calls Trump a Democrat

Joe is despicable.

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Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2018, 11:44 AM

19. Joe Scarborough is a bad person. So is Mika Brzezinski. (eom)

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Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2018, 11:45 AM

20. I've heard Clinton's name linked to Epstein for some time now

Does not mean it is accurate, but I've seen them linked in articles for several years.

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Response to RussBLib (Reply #20)

Thu Dec 6, 2018, 12:03 PM

21. +1, and doesn't mean its relevant to the context either

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Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2018, 12:08 PM

23. Scarborough is a conservative activist working constantly to

keep conservatives in power.

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