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(1,584 posts)
Fri Nov 23, 2018, 09:10 AM Nov 2018

Trump has made it so that no one has to respect our courts, our laws, or our values.

He has set the precedent for any government official to disobey laws, precedent, and tradition. GOP is no longer the party of law and order but the party of disorder and corruption. IF SCOTUS doesn't reign him in, the only other viable remedy is unthinkable. The House has already lost it equality with the Executive because Trump will not abide by anything a Democratic House will invoke. We are in some very troubling times.

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Trump has made it so that no one has to respect our courts, our laws, or our values. (Original Post) allgood33 Nov 2018 OP
Just the opposite with me. no_hypocrisy Nov 2018 #1
That's his goal and the goal of putin mucifer Nov 2018 #2
Yes. If all news is fake and all authority unreliable, despots win. Funtatlaguy Nov 2018 #5
As I keep saying... safeinOhio Nov 2018 #3
Good morning to you, too! PJMcK Nov 2018 #4
Yeah... no. He is trying to do that. He will not succeed. Squinch Nov 2018 #6
What some in the republican Senate don't realize duforsure Nov 2018 #7


(47,123 posts)
1. Just the opposite with me.
Fri Nov 23, 2018, 09:12 AM
Nov 2018

I now not only appreciate them but have elevated them to the status of the ultimate buttress in defense of our democracy.


(22,227 posts)
4. Good morning to you, too!
Fri Nov 23, 2018, 09:21 AM
Nov 2018

Trump has attempted those things. He has not succeeded.

It's clear from the recent election that Trump doesn't have the country behind him. The newly elected Democratic-controlled House will be opposed to him. Chief Justice Roberts has stood up for the courts against Trump's continual whining and expressions of disrespect for judges. Even many Republicans/Conservatives are opposed to Trump.

I'll agree that we live in troubling times. I was born in the late 1950s and my whole life has been filled with troubling times: Cuban Missile Crisis, Kennedy's assassination, Viet Nam, civil rights unrest, Martin Luther King's assassination, Nixon, the explosion of drugs in our culture, Iran hostages, Reagan, Bush I, Iraq I, Bush II, 9/11, Afghanistan, Iraq II, 2008 financial collapse, etc., etc.

Have some optimism. We're a stronger nation than you may think.


(51,410 posts)
6. Yeah... no. He is trying to do that. He will not succeed.
Fri Nov 23, 2018, 10:17 AM
Nov 2018

Smarter people have tried before him and failed miserably.

He's going to end up in a heap if disgrace and our institutions and rule of law will put him there.


(11,885 posts)
7. What some in the republican Senate don't realize
Fri Nov 23, 2018, 11:18 AM
Nov 2018

He'll undermine them next , eliminating any power they have too. That's why some real American hero's that aren't corrupt need to step up and denounce their party of trump switching over to the Democrats , and taking power away from Mitch McConnell to stop this from continuing any longer.

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