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4du

(56 posts)
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 02:36 PM Nov 2018

The real story about the migrant caravan

It has now been revealed that the United States government had paid spies and informers embedded in the caravan. In the tradition of following the money and who benefits, I believe the caravan was first organized by Trump and his operatives.

Many years ago I was a College Young Republican who supported Roger Stone when he ran for mid-west federation chairman. He taught us ANY dirty trick or falsehood was acceptable in politics. If it worked it was great. Roger Stone taught Donald Trump everything he knows about politics.

Think about the timing of the caravan. It was perfect for maximum impact on the midterm elections. Think about how big it was. It was not a couple of hundred people, as you would expect, it was thousands. On TV it was a river of people who could be made to look very menacing. Most of the leaders interviewed on TV were young healthy men, not women, and children who would evoke sympathy. After the election, they just melted away. Think about it. Look into it.

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The real story about the migrant caravan (Original Post) 4du Nov 2018 OP
Something has smelled rotten about the caravan from day one Rstrstx Nov 2018 #1

Rstrstx

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1. Something has smelled rotten about the caravan from day one
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 04:02 PM
Nov 2018

We still don't know who started it in the first place. Pueblos sin Fronteras, the group that had organized several previous caravans, was not responsible for initiating this one. Somebody else was working behind the scenes. The right immediately pointed the finger at George Soros because, well, that's what they always do. It makes NO sense for an ally of the Democratic Party to support this, knowing it would be a political gift to Trump.

So your suspicion is well founded. I'm thinking a little more internationally, that perhaps it was Putin behind it. To pull something like this off you need to have support from people deep in the country. Putin undoubtedly has plenty of old connections in Latin America who were KGB back in the day. And if he wanted to meddle in the 2018 elections (like analysts said he was going to try) it would be far easier to do it outside the US, where people wouldn't be as suspecting. Who else could pull this off? The CIA? That's even scarier than the Russians.

The one thing that I haven't seen an adequate explanation for is how in the hell did thousands of people just show up in Tijuana last week when they had been in Guadalajara only two days prior? I could see a small group of maybe 100 or so but moving thousands of people across most of the length of the country is a difficult task to pull off. I've heard they had buses (that would be a LOT of buses) but why didn't you see anything in the papers or online about this? All I could find was one reference about a priest in Sinaloa offering some shelter (overnight, I presume) to some of the migrants but it wasn't thousands.

I'm all but convinced that most of the people in Tijuana right now are not part of the original caravan and are political ploys being used by someone. Not necessarily the US - they're getting some really bad press right now in the Mexican news and in online media. The clips of people turning down food or saying bad things have been spreading like wildfire on social media, somebody down there is trying to drive a narrative. It may have receded in the US but in Mexico the caravan story is just getting warmed up.

The US media, as usual, has done zero substantive investigative journalism into this story, instead just trying to get as much out of it for ratings, especially right-wing sites. That many in Mexico are buying into the propaganda is depressing but not unpredictable.

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